Using a SPL Meter and Speaker Sizes

[Kal Rubinson]

What then is your suggestion for the processor configuration to achive this? Setting of max sends all bass information to the fronts and sub(s) to the best of my knowledge.

I am unfamiliar with the "max" setting (never seen one) but was speaking about the results.

[Orb]

The differences that I hear among the amps has, I believe, nothing to do with the power ratings of the amps because, frankly, I do not play much music that places great dynamic demands on them. Sure, the occasional Mahler symphony but usually I am listening for clarity and balance. In my room and with my listening habits, 200wpc is adequate.

Kal

Kal,
just curious did you notice that for a jump in dynamics this appeared at say the 650+ watt marks when compared to other amps between 200 to 400?

I am just asking because from my own experience between 200 and 400 it was more about clarity and balance like you say (my main reference 2-channel ended up being a Chord Electronics SPM 1200e), however for the exciting dynamic sound that at times is like a shock-surprise, I did not really feel it until I used one of the big Musical Fidelity KW models that I purchased for the seconday system (occasionally put in the reference) - just nice alternative when wanting the slam and excitement-lushness, however it has more compromises than the 1200e IMO).

Strangely this was even noticable in my treated small room (without the average listening level being insane - above 85db spl) on the right recordings.

Cheers
Orb

[imbeaujp]

I've just always been of the opinion that a subwoofer was to supplement a hole in the response, not replace it. But, there are definitely several strong arguments to go sub only with the ultra low frequency.

You are right, this is the way to set up a sub woofer for music. If you have LARGE speakers, the use a low crossover point like 40 hz. this is correct.

For Home Cinema in 5.1 or 7.1, we do not use a sub woofer, we use a LFE or Low Frequency "Effect". There is no ballance 20 to 20 to apply there. It is a personnal taste about the feeling you want when there is an explosion or special bass "effect" in the movie. In that configuration, you should set cross over point to 80 or 60hz not lower and set your speaker to SMALL. That way you protect your HI-FI components and get better effect.

[Kal Rubinson]

Kal,
just curious did you notice that for a jump in dynamics this appeared at say the 650+ watt marks when compared to other amps between 200 to 400?

Nope.

[wettou]

Kal even with a 1000W?

[Orb]

Ah well, not sure that 2-channel would be making any difference in this, although there were only a few tracks I noticed a dramatic difference with anyway.
Possibly similar to the occasional Mahler symphony maybe you hinted at?

Cheers
Orb

[Kal Rubinson]

Ah well, not sure that 2-channel would be making any difference in this, although there were only a few tracks I noticed a dramatic difference with anyway.
Possibly similar to the occasional Mahler symphony maybe you hinted at?

Cheers
Orb

Nope. Remember, this is a music-only system and, to be specific, only the type of music that I select. The most powerful, low-frequency transients are bass drum and the hammer-blows in the Mahler 6. 200w handles these fine. No synth, no explosions, no firearms.

Kal

[Orb]

Nope. Remember, this is a music-only system and, to be specific, only the type of music that I select. The most powerful, low-frequency transients are bass drum and the hammer-blows in the Mahler 6. 200w handles these fine. No synth, no explosions, no firearms.

Kal

Ah thx Kal your spot on, was synth or organ orientated in my case, and possibly violins outside of classical music genre.

Cheers
Orb

[wettou]

Nope. Remember, this is a music-only system and, to be specific, only the type of music that I select. The most powerful, low-frequency transients are bass drum and the hammer-blows in the Mahler 6. 200w handles these fine. No synth, no explosions, no firearms.

Kal

Kal do you feel the 802D are well controlled with 200W?

[Kal Rubinson]

Kal do you feel the 802D are well controlled with 200W?

Depends on whose 200w we are talking about. Classe 3200 was just fine, as was the ML 436.

[wettou]

Depends on whose 200w we are talking about. Classe 3200 was just fine, as was the ML 436.

Thanks, I use the CA5200, I was wondering if I should get the CAM400 for my 802D, I may asked you this before, how big is your room?

[Kal Rubinson]

Thanks, I use the CA5200, I was wondering if I should get the CAM400 for my 802D, I may asked you this before, how big is your room?

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?p=440338#post440338

[wettou]

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...338#post440338

Sorry, Alzheimer is coming

[Kal Rubinson]

Sorry, Alzheimer is coming

Yes. I've had Google surgically implanted in compensation.

Kal

[wettou]

sounds good

Yes. I've had Google surgically implanted in compensation.

Kal

Sounds good:T