Surround setup with 803D

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  • Maverick71
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 94

    #1

    Surround setup with 803D

    Having just purchased a pair of 803D's, I am now starting from scratch the whole 5.1 setup
    For the center channel I'll be using the HTM4S for now because the HTM3S is too big (and heavy) for the setup and I'll consider it when I redecorate the room or have a dedicated A/V room. I know voicing wont be similar to the 803D, but I have to have that compromise, for now.

    I'm having trouble in deciding about the rear speakers, though. The 805S are too expensive, for now, so, I'm considering either the 705, CM1 or SCMS.

    One of the complains I had about my previous setup was that the rear speakers were mounted at ear height (same as the front speakers) and I felt that surround effects were compromised.
    Having this in mind, I'd like to place the rear speakers 1 or 2 foot above ear height.

    The SCMS would be a good choice, but I feel it's a poor investment since it only serves for surround purposes. Also, it is not a cheap solution and they're not what I'd call 'small'. Besides, I'd have to hide the cables from the ground up to the place where the speaker hangs.

    Next, the 705 are a well regarded standmount, but personally I don't know this speaker. It has the advantage of being front ported, but they're big and I don't know how I to put them at 4,5ft from the floor. I'd have to use a speaker stand, but I haven't manage to find one that has at least 3,5ft height and are stable enough.

    My initial favourites, the CM1's, are gorgeous, small and cheap. But, on the other hand, I still don't know how the hell am I going to place them on stands and 4,5ft from the floor (again), they have 84dB sensitivity 8O and I read somewhere that they do not excel on dynamics and detail (the latter IS important for surround duties).

    What to do? :huh:

    Thanks.

    Mav
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  • johan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 129

    #2
    Hi Mav!

    What about used SCM1's? Not a perfect match but that wouldn't SCMS be either. You should get a couple at a very good price.

    Johan.

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    • johan
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 129

      #3
      Very nice room and setup by the way!

      Johan.

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      • Kobus
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 402

        #4
        Love your setup. No advice.
        You will enjoy.

        Like the baby chair. I have a 18 month old. To keep her away from my setup is not that easy. She can now open the cd tray.... scary.

        Kobus

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        • Maverick71
          Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 94

          #5
          Johan,

          Thanks! I'll checkout on ebay for used SCM's. My biggest problem is positioning the speakers at a decent height. Even bigger if I go for a standmount because I don't know of any stands that are high enough and solid at the same time.

          Kobus,

          I know what you mean... My son is a 2 yr old and rides his car around the room passing VERY close to the speakers everytime... Shame i can't take off the speaker grilles...

          Mav

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          • style
            Super Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1562

            #6
            803d and rear

            @Maverick71,
            if yuo have the possibility 4x 804s super set :T

            style

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            • Maverick71
              Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 94

              #7
              That would be nice! Unfortunately it's out of my price range. Presentely I'm considering SCMS, CM1, DS7, 705 and 805S.

              Surround with only HT in mind (SCMS or DS7) or compromise on HT but a better solution for 5.1 music (CM1, 705 or 805s)? Decisions, decisions...

              Mav

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              • style
                Super Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 1562

                #8
                @Maverick71,

                movie is very important for you? = 90% from your system = 805
                but a pairs of 705 is sure not bad (803d - htm4s - 805or705) :T
                and sub? (minimal 750B&W) ops:

                Style
                Switzerland


                (B&W703 - htm7 - cdm7nt - 601s3 - 2x750sub - rotel 1098&1075,Denon3910&2200 - pioneer 427 (coming rotel RB1092 for l/r)

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                • Maverick71
                  Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 94

                  #9
                  Thanks style!

                  Music is important for me but my last setup had good surround speakers (good front speakers that I moved to rears when I upgraded them) and always felt I was loosing a but in the HT side. I am now a bit more concerned about 5.1 HT performance and that's why I am considering the DSx range as they're probably better for pure surround duties and easier to place above ear height.

                  Mav

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                  • style
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1562

                    #10
                    hi Mav,

                    if do you have a "tipical room" for the dipol-speakers is sure a good solutions

                    Style




                    (My room is (in meter 10x5.5) and the system is in the half of the room =
                    much sound get fuck... :M )

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                    • Maverick71
                      Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 94

                      #11
                      Mine's about 6.1x5.9 meters and I have no choice but placing the surrounds at the back wall about 5 meters apart. Still undecided....

                      Mav

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                      • style
                        Super Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1562

                        #12
                        Mav,

                        only in the brouchure is sooooo simply the set-up. do you see a room
                        5 x 5 (or similar) and the placing is easy... too easy...

                        a good integration from one system in a "normal" room (no a cinema-room self
                        construct/build with isolation and, and,...) is really different.

                        greetings from Switzerland,

                        style

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                        • jlee
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 337

                          #13
                          SCMS... that's what I run... wouldn't run anything else...

                          They are $2200.. only $300 less expensive than 805s... so not sure why u consider 805s expensive, but not the scms... just so it right and u won't regret i.... get the scms.... 805s will not sound right wall mounted...

                          now i know why u think 805s is too expensive... cuz of the stands needed.

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                          • Maverick71
                            Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 94

                            #14
                            Thanks jlee. You're right, there's not that much difference between the SCM's and the 805s (even though with stands it would be about $600).

                            Considering the SCM's and the 805S's for surrounds (and mounting the 805s on dedicated 70cm stands), would the 805s be a worthwhile investment or a waste of money for surround duties? Can they be as good as the SCM's on surround processing or do the SCM's have the edge due to their higher positioning?

                            Mav

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