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  • David_D
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 197

    Show us your speaker finishes

    Chuck (Impala454) made a suggestion to build a thread based on peoples' finishes. So, one could look at pics and make some educated judgment on possible finishes. Lets post some pics, and try to keep the discussion down as none of us want to hunt through 6 pages of chit chat for that one awesome pic

    Here's mine:
    Statement Center Channel:
    Flat Cut Cherry Paperback veneer
    Ironed on using Heat-Lok
    No Stain
    3 coats of High Gloss poly brushed on
    2 coats of Satin Poly sprayed on

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    15" Sub
    Flat Cut Oak Veneered Plywood w/ solid quarter rounds
    No Stain
    10 coats of High Gloss poly brushed on
    6 coats of Satin Poly brushed on
    Inset Tiled Top

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    -David

    As we try and consider
    We receive all we venture to give
  • Bill Schneider
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 158

    #2
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    Cabinet:
    paper-backed maple veneer, ironed-on using Titebond woodglue with these steps:
    veneering, loudspeakers, DIY, iron-on veneer, williamrschneider

    General Finishes oil-based pre-stain conditioner
    General Finishes "Honey" stain
    Minwax semi-gloss Polyurethane brushed-on, 5 coats

    Baffle:
    Zinsser Bull's Eye Seal Coat sanding sealer on MDF, 2 applications with sanding
    Rustoleum sandable auto primer rattle-can (more sanding until very smooth) & repeat
    Krylon Semi-flat black (rattle-can)
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    My audio projects:
    https://www.afterness.com/audio

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    • Bill Schneider
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 158

      #3
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      PVC Pipes:
      Roughed-up with sandpaper
      Zinsser B-I-N shellac-based primer, brushed on
      Valspar "Ancient Stone" (Lowe's) interior flat latex, brushed on
      Valspar Lime Wash, brushed on in crosshatch pattern
      Valspar Latex Clear Glaze for extra protection, brushed on

      Black components:
      Zinsser Bull's Eye Seal Coat sanding sealer, 2 coats brushed on, sanded smooth
      Rustoleum sandable auto primer rattle can (several coats, sanded until very smooth
      Krylon Semi-Flat Black rattle can, 2 coats

      Poplar wood components:
      Minwax Polyurethane, 3-coats wiped-on
      Minwax "Gunstock" stain over poly
      Minwax Polyurethane, 3 more coats, wiped on
      (It's an odd way to do it, and the stain over the poly behaves strangely, but it gives the color I wanted without emphasizing the grain)
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      My audio projects:
      https://www.afterness.com/audio

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      • David_D
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 197

        #4
        Now that's pretty cool! :T
        -David

        As we try and consider
        We receive all we venture to give

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        • Undefinition
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 577

          #5
          Great thread!

          Finishing is not my strongest suit, so I'm always looking for a finish that doesn't require too much extra time or tools.

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          Sides (MDF):
          Rust-Oleum brown primer (2 coats, brushed)
          Rust-Oleum Hammered Brown paint (2 coats, brushed)

          Baffle (maple plywood):
          Zinsser Sealcoat (2 coats, cloth-wiped)
          Zinsser Shellac (4 coats, cloth-wiped (I think))
          Paste Wax (1 coat, rubbed on, then buffed off)


          If you want a flat white or flat black semi gloss with basically no priming or sanding, I highly recommend this:

          Broken: http://undefinition.googlepages.com/...olevels,87.jpg

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          Rust-oleum Appliance Epoxy. Comes in black, white, and almond. Make sure your surface is filled and sanded very smooth beforehand, and just start hitting it; no primer needed. You recoat once every 30 minutes or so (gotta do it in time, or you'll have to wait a week to recoat), for 6-8 coats. That's it. You let it dry for a few days. If you want to clearcoat, you can, but it's probably not necessary. At this point, it already looks like real furniture (or a kitchen appliance, depending on how you think about it. This stuff is HARD; you can put your cup of coffee on it and not worry.
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          Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?
          Paul Carmody's DIY Speaker Site

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          • Bastek
            Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 41

            #6
            My first finish, a simple 2 pass Ebony stain, and 1 pass Tung Oil, it disappears completely at night (with grills on).

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            • eddo
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 24

              #7
              The ebony stain is pretty sweet with the white cone, copper phase plug, and brass hardware. Well done!

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              • dlneubec
                Super Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 1456

                #8
                This is probably my best effort, the HOSS project: HOSS
                Santos Rosewood 2ply veneer
                many coats of Dewaxed shellac followed by
                Many coats of Old Masters poly, brushed on and let dry flat one side at a time. Lots of sanding and smoothing. The gloss black is rattle cans of Rustoleum gloss black over primer over dewaxed shellac on mdf.

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                Here is one of my NaO Mini's (just the MTM section):
                Solid cherry and Maple over an mdf backer
                Boiled linseed oil, 1:1 with naptha (IIRC)
                Followed by many coats of gloss wipe on poly mixed 1:1 with naptha

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                I need to get some photo's of my SoundRounds and Duo's in their completed stage and will post those later.
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                Dan N.

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                • Jim Holtz
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 3223

                  #9
                  Well, I'll toss the Statements in here since they were my last projects.



                  The cabinets were sealed a skim coat of bondo and then with MDF primer (I hated it) and then sanded with many follow up coats of high build automotive primer.Once I got them to the point that "I thought" I had all the imperfections taken care of, I shot 10 coats of Target Finishes gloss black lacquer with a HVLP spray set up.

                  I then let them sit for a week. Next came sanding with 1000, 1500 and finally 2000 grit paper. I buffed them with 3M products from the autoparts store just like they do in the body shop. Lots and lots of work. Plus the materials were extremely expensive.

                  The Mini's in the attached picture were veneeered with paper backed 10 mil red oak veneeer, stained with golden oak, filled with Crystalac pore filler and then top coated with Crystalac clear gloss super Premun finish sprayed with my HVLP setup.

                  The Statements center had the same treatment as the Statements.

                  Jim

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                  • Rolex
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 386

                    #10
                    I have been using a precatalyzed lacquer over most of my projects, but have recently tried a polyurethane, tung oil, and turpentine mixture that have produced some great results. Not paint for me, I'm a woodworking, so I love using different veneer. The tower is cherry, the stand mounts are curly maple, imbuya, fiddleback anigre, and mottle anigre. THe imbuya pair uses watco danish oil with wax over top.

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                    • Hank
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1345

                      #11
                      I veneer - favorite so far is rosewood. My favorite finish is very labor intensive, but IMO, brings out wood grain beauty like no other finish: hand-rubbed Danish oil finish. Before and after finishing:

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                      • Amphiprion
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 886

                        #12
                        Too embarrassed to highlight the bowties, eh Hank?

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                        • kvardas
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 125

                          #13
                          Mottled Makore Veneer
                          Five coats of Semi-gloass General finishes followed by two coats of tung oil/boiled linseed/beeswax home-made paste wax buffed with 0000 steel wool.

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                          • impala454
                            Ultra Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3814

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rolex

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                            wow that looks better than factory! very tight tolerance on those driver cutouts :T
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                            -Chuck

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                            • JonP
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 692

                              #15
                              I should have better pics of these, but here's the Modula MT's I built a while back...

                              African Mahogany veneer, nothin' but Shellac. Made for a deep and glowing finish, but is somewhat easy to ding.
                              Zinnser's Seal Coat shellac, thinned to 1lb cut for a few coats. Somewhere in between Blond and Amber, it darkened the Mahogany nicely after a few coats, so I kept going.
                              More and more (and more and more) coats of uncut Seal Coat for final finish.
                              Used a scraper to help level high spots while building thickness, worked pretty good! Scrapers Rule!!
                              Wet sanded with a block, between later coats with (equiv of) 320 Micro Mesh cloth. (highly recommended!)
                              Then sanding up the Micro Mesh grades, thru 12000. (equiv of 2-3000 grit)

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                              • cobblepots
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 102

                                #16
                                That stand is incredible! Was it difficult to glue the veneer to it? What glue did you use? Paper backed veneer? How did you deal with the seam? Sorryy for all the questions but once you get excited... I definitely would like to do something along the same lines with my statement monitor stands. I'm covering all my speakers and sub in a mottled Makore. It'll cost me a bit but it'll be worth it. Hopefully I'll be able to do the grain justice. Everyone's finishes look fantastic!

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                                • Hank
                                  Super Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 1345

                                  #17
                                  Mark "The Kid" Hayenga wrote:
                                  Too embarrassed to highlight the bowties, eh Hank?
                                  Mark, the before/after towers were my A/V-3's that I gave to my daughter and son-in-law for their wedding present (their request). The towers with what you call the "bow tie" looking base are my current towers. It's funny that only you and Jonathan don't like their looks - I get compliments from other people re the orginality (or maybe they're just being polite?).

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                                  • Silversmoky
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Nov 2007
                                    • 178

                                    #18
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                                    Cabinet: Maple Burl Veneer - Applied using Heatlock, Sanded very smooth.
                                    No stain on main cabinet. Just clear coat. Watco Clear Gloss Brushing Laquer.
                                    Around 20 coats. Sanded lightly between each coat with 600 sand paper, then cleaned thoroughly with tack cloth.
                                    Front Baffle: Stained with Varathane Cabornet. Clear coated w/ same laquer.
                                    Sprayed with 8 coats.
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                                    • wettou
                                      Ultra Senior Member
                                      • May 2006
                                      • 3389

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JonP
                                      I should have better pics of these, but here's the Modula MT's I built a while back...

                                      African Mahogany veneer, nothin' but Shellac. Made for a deep and glowing finish, but is somewhat easy to ding.
                                      Zinnser's Seal Coat shellac, thinned to 1lb cut for a few coats. Somewhere in between Blond and Amber, it darkened the Mahogany nicely after a few coats, so I kept going.
                                      More and more (and more and more) coats of uncut Seal Coat for final finish.
                                      Used a scraper to help level high spots while building thickness, worked pretty good! Scrapers Rule!!
                                      Wet sanded with a block, between later coats with (equiv of) 320 Micro Mesh cloth. (highly recommended!)
                                      Then sanding up the Micro Mesh grades, thru 12000. (equiv of 2-3000 grit)

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                                      Very impressive you guys are artists!! :T Can you do this for my 802Ds!
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                                      Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                      • JonP
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Apr 2006
                                        • 692

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cobblepots
                                        That stand is incredible! Was it difficult to glue the veneer to it? What glue did you use? Paper backed veneer? How did you deal with the seam? Sorryy for all the questions but once you get excited... I definitely would like to do something along the same lines with my statement monitor stands. I'm covering all my speakers and sub in a mottled Makore. It'll cost me a bit but it'll be worth it. Hopefully I'll be able to do the grain justice. Everyone's finishes look fantastic!
                                        Yep, it was the same paper backed Mahogany as the boxes, thought it might be a nice touch to have the wood match. And, black truckbed liner paint on the rest of the stands to key with the black drivers... I like how it turned out.

                                        I used the Titebond yellow glue iron on method for the boxes, and for the posts I had my first experience with contact cement. Had a few lumps from painting on the cement, you CAN'T go back and rebrush if it's started to dry, and it starts in a minute or so... I almost had a real problem. Still had a few bumps under the surface. I did an overlap glue and cut as described in Lou C's website (lonesaguro.com?) and it worked pretty invisibly. The seam did seem (heh) to migrate apart during the many shellac coats, but not badly.
                                        Kind of like a stocking with a seam.. I put them on the back sides.

                                        One thing, I started with 3" ABS sewer pipe, it was just too flexy, especially with a 25lb Modula MT on top! Went thru a battle trying to find real PVC in 3" at standard stores... but it is worth it for the greater stiffness.

                                        I made a "pipe holder rack" out of some 1/2" PVC, just a little crossbar with feet, about 10" off the ground. I'd put a pipe on it, spray a 1/3'd, and turn, etc... to get an even coating. Worked pretty well.

                                        The veneer came out a bit lighter, due to my putting on fewer layers. I kind of improved my tecnique by then, with some clear grain filler and more exclusive use of the Micro Mesh, I was to smooth glass much sooner, which made them a bit lighter.

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                                        • dlneubec
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • Jan 2006
                                          • 1456

                                          #21
                                          Very nice work from all! Here are my SoundRounds. SoundRounds

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                                          Satin Poly finish on the solid Maple parts
                                          Old Masters High Gloss poly over Zinsers Sealcoat
                                          on the Waterfall Bubinga veneer
                                          Limewash on the PVC tubes covered by egshell latex paint
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                                          Dan N.

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                                          • royceb
                                            Member
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 51

                                            #22
                                            Wow, I'm impressed. This thread has inspired me to try veneer for the first time. Can anyone recommend a good site and/or product. I was thinking Rockler's paper backed veneer.

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                                            • Hdale85
                                              Moderator Emeritus
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 16073

                                              #23
                                              Tapeease, Joe woodworker, Oakwood veneer.

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                                              • eyekode
                                                Member
                                                • Jun 2008
                                                • 45

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rolex
                                                I have been using a precatalyzed lacquer over most of my projects, but have recently tried a polyurethane, tung oil, and turpentine mixture that have produced some great results. Not paint for me, I'm a woodworking, so I love using different veneer. The tower is cherry, the stand mounts are curly maple, imbuya, fiddleback anigre, and mottle anigre. THe imbuya pair uses watco danish oil with wax over top.
                                                Alright Rolex, those are amazing! How about a tutorial or two .

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                                                • eyekode
                                                  Member
                                                  • Jun 2008
                                                  • 45

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Silversmoky
                                                  Cabinet: Maple Burl Veneer - Applied using Heatlock, Sanded very smooth.
                                                  No stain on main cabinet. Just clear coat. Watco Clear Gloss Brushing Laquer.
                                                  Around 20 coats. Sanded lightly between each coat with 600 sand paper, then cleaned thoroughly with tack cloth.
                                                  Front Baffle: Stained with Varathane Cabornet. Clear coated w/ same laquer.
                                                  Sprayed with 8 coats.
                                                  Is that a raw veneer? If so I would expect a seam at the back? How did that turn out with Heatlock?

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                                                  • Rolex
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 386

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by eyekode
                                                    Alright Rolex, those are amazing! How about a tutorial or two .
                                                    Sure, what would you like to know?

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                                                    • Hdale85
                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                      • 16073

                                                      #27
                                                      As OP stated we want to try and keep the chatting down to a very minimum in this thread and keep it mostly pictures. There is nothing more frustrating then trying to look at a gallery thread and having to flip through 10 pages or so of people talking about the pictures. Questions and comments and what not should be left to build threads or PM's. Not trying to sound pushy here or anything just trying to make this a great gallery :B

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                                                      • gmed
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                        • 207

                                                        #28
                                                        Thank you. This has been a long project that finally came to an end. I used the Trans Lamination technique, So the finish you see is the natural look of the ply. I used sanding sealer which brought out all the grains of the wood, then I used wipe on water based poly, with cotton rags. The stands are also trans lam, composed of 3" disks piled on top of each other using a 3/8" threaded rod. The bases are also cut using a CNC router. You can see a log of my work on the speakers if you do a search for translam. I think from now on, Im just going to stick to wipe on Poly. I also like to use BB plywood, which is both good material and has a good finish already.

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                                                        • Kingdaddy
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 355

                                                          #29
                                                          Here is an old one of mine, matching veneer and solid wood is not as easy as I thought it would be.

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                                                          My Center Channel Project

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                                                          • A9X
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • Jan 2007
                                                            • 107

                                                            #30
                                                            I feel sick. I'll never be able to post pics of what I build if they have to be compared to these beauties. Oh, the shame.

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                                                            • Rolex
                                                              Senior Member
                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                              • 386

                                                              #31
                                                              Here is my latest. A re-veneer of an older project.

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                                                              • David_D
                                                                Senior Member
                                                                • Feb 2008
                                                                • 197

                                                                #32
                                                                Very Nice Rolex. How do you get your veneer seams so tight so the endgrain doesn't show? I assume it's raw & very thin.
                                                                -David

                                                                As we try and consider
                                                                We receive all we venture to give

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                                                                • NateTTU
                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                                  • 205

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Rolex,

                                                                  Could you tell me what mixture you use for your finish and perhaps some of the steps taken? I really like they way those have turned out and would love to try and mimic these on my statements.

                                                                  Thanks,
                                                                  Nate

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                                                                  • Rolex
                                                                    Senior Member
                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                    • 386

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I thought I would throw a couple more pictures on this thread. I recently completed the Zaph SR71 speakers. I did another stacked lamination. This time the cabinet was quite a bit bigger to meet the approximately .5 cu ft of volume this design calls for. The veneer is more block mottle anigre because I like it, and it's what I had laying around. It has a very light oil based stain to help bring out the grain just a little before applying precatalyzed lacquer with an airless spray.

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                                                                    • lunchmoney
                                                                      Senior Member
                                                                      • Jul 2008
                                                                      • 152

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Painted Tritrix's...

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                                                                      • lunchmoney
                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                        • Jul 2008
                                                                        • 152

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Hey Rolex...

                                                                        Howdya like the SR71's?

                                                                        I'm in the middle of building mine... a bit jealous of your curved side walls... those came out awesome ;x(

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                                                                        • Rolex
                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                          • 386

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Thanks, I've been following your thread. Looks like yours should turn out great as well. So far (it's been almost two days) I've been real happy with them. They will be tested on a full McInstosh system this weekend. Looking forward to the results. They will be up against Wilson Watt/Puppy 7's...

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                                                                          • Paul Ebert
                                                                            Senior Member
                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                            • 434

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Undefinition

                                                                            If you want a flat white or flat black semi gloss with basically no priming or sanding, I highly recommend this:

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                                                                            Rust-oleum Appliance Epoxy. Comes in black, white, and almond.

                                                                            I used epoxy paint once on a bathroom window ledge. It put out very intense and noxious fumes. Even with a respirator, it was really bad. Is this stuff like that? If not, it sounds perfect for the bases of my Trilliums. I'll want those to be pretty rugged.

                                                                            Can this be purchased at your typical hardware store?
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                                                                            • impala454
                                                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                                              • 3814

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Very nice job lunchmoney. I would have never thought of using blue but those look great!
                                                                              -Chuck

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                                                                              • flamethrower1
                                                                                Senior Member
                                                                                • May 2008
                                                                                • 392

                                                                                #40
                                                                                statements

                                                                                statements, black walnut and hand rubbed danish oil

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                                                                                • bmaupin
                                                                                  Junior Member
                                                                                  • Mar 2008
                                                                                  • 22

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Rolex

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                                                                                  Rolex,

                                                                                  Where did you get the round binding plate? Very sharp.

                                                                                  - Brad
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                                                                                  • Bastek
                                                                                    Member
                                                                                    • Apr 2008
                                                                                    • 41

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Most excellent finishes! I don't know which one to (try and) copy next.

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                                                                                    • Jed
                                                                                      Ultra Senior Member
                                                                                      • Apr 2005
                                                                                      • 3621

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Rolex
                                                                                      They will be up against Wilson Watt/Puppy 7's...
                                                                                      Watt/Puppy's are no match. :B

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                                                                                      • deucelee
                                                                                        Member
                                                                                        • Nov 2008
                                                                                        • 48

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Bastek
                                                                                        Most excellent finishes! I don't know which one to (try and) copy next.
                                                                                        imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :T

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                                                                                        • cobblepots
                                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                                          • May 2008
                                                                                          • 102

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Mini Statements. Black lacquer for the top, fronts, and bottom. Mottled Makore for the sides with 3 coats of tung oil and 3 coats of brushed on poly. The poly and tung oil were lightly sanded between coats with 0000 steel wool.

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