Khanspire's Build Thread

[joeybutts]

I should point out, CJD helped me cut those baffles out. I was still scared of the router at that point. ops:

Poor baby..... :W

Baffles are now 1" thick. Waiting for the glue to dry to finish the cutouts. :Z

[joeybutts]

Glue with weights

[mtmpenn]

Let me just say that your apartment must be quite the sight.

I have seen evidence of your patio woodshop/paint booth. I know the place has got to be full of AV gear. And now, I see a half a gym worth of dumbells.

NICE!!! I predict that someday you are going to have an awesome man-cave.


(I'll let you slide on the fact that the dumbness are all from the little end of the rack... :B ).

Looks great so far, keep up the good work.

[cjd]

(I'll let you slide on the fact that the dumbness are all from the little end of the rack... :B ).

YOU try juggling the big ones.

[joeybutts]

Thanks Penn! My place is usually in speaker shambles with projects everywhere, but I do a good job of recycling, or gifting or putting to use somewhere. I've contemplated putting my D8's in my classroom. :E

Hahhaha, yeah only the little dumbbells at home. I just started collecting them over the summer, but after about 45 lbs they get stupid expensive, so I try finding them on craigslist. I'll take a vid of me at the gym handling the 100's though.

And as far as the man-cave goes......OH yeah. It will be the shit. (pardon my language 8) )

Right Chris?!

[joeybutts]

Uhmmm....anyone know why there is a duplicate thread of this one? I am definitely not running two threads.

[joeybutts]

Baffles almost complete!

Working after daylight savings time change....







Chamfered the midwoofers....

[joeybutts]

The bracing is planned, Thursday it will be cut....

[joeybutts]

Should make for just enough bracing....



I should mention this is for the entire 5.0...

[---k---]

Nah, not enough. You need to add some hardwood dowels and steel angles also.

[joeybutts]

Bwhahahahahahahaha.



Oh yeah. I forgot to cut 8 more panels for the other tower. Wait till you see it. Gonna be so OVERKILL. I can't wait. I got all the panels drawn out and hoping to have the tower bracing and the rest of the center channel done on Sunday.

Might get the surrounds bracing done and the recesses for all the bracing as well, but that's being ambitious....

[joeybutts]

One form cut and laminated for every brace needed. Pics tomorrow after they are all completed....

[joeybutts]

Bracing almost done...





Khanspires bracing on the left....I haven't cut the lower two horizontal braces, just the braces that double as the mid chamber.

[---k---]

I love the flair.

[joeybutts]

Thanks Ryan. I am hoping to cut the lower two braces tonight, as I forgot to include them in my count before. Stupid math teacher.

Also hoping to have all the rest of the braces finished up. Then it is time to route the grooves in the panels for the bracing to be inset.

[joeybutts]

Just need to cut the bottom 2 (which is actually 4 total braces, which is actually 8 total panels, which I am short 1 panel dammit.......), but the rest are done and ready!

[cbark]

relax...you said this was fun. Did you make the coat rack also? Just trying to get your mind off of the missed braces.

Foosball anyone! :P

[joeybutts]

relax...you said this was fun. Did you make the coat rack also? Just trying to get your mind off of the missed braces.

Foosball anyone! :P

It is funnnnnnnnnn....... :T Just need...more.....timmmmmmmeeeeeee..... :W

The coat rack is not mine.....My roommate purchased that from somewhere.... Mine wouldn't be so wobbly/loose. 8)

That foosball table is soon to be a project of restoration. I think it was built in the 70's and is completely original. Has been in my family since new.

[joeybutts]

Finally back on this horse. Bought the rest of the wood needed and am laminating panels tonight and tomorrow. Hopefully tomorrow all cutouts and laminating and bracing are complete.

This coming week I'm going to try and figure out where and how I am implementing the crossovers in the structure and complete all dados for the bracing.

[---k---]

Sounds like you'll be done sometime mid-summer. :P

[joeybutts]

Sounds like you'll be done sometime mid-summer. :P

MWahahahha. Funny how this happens on all forums I'm a part of. :rofl:

In their entirety probably. Usable? prob by March or April (still need to buy a few crossover components.....)

[joeybutts]

Haven't had a chance to cut the braces yet, but it is all laminated. Here are the rest of the panels cut.....

[joeybutts]

---k--- or CJD, how little is too little stuffing? A lot of guys are pushing me to do plexi/acrylic/lexan on the back or side to expose the bracing, but my concern is it looking like hell inside with the stuffing.

I had two ideas for now.

Idea 1. The whole back be plexi and line the surrounding walls in front of the vertical bracing behind the woofers with 703 and put some thinned stuffing in there.

Idea 2. Have two plexi windows, a small one at the top and a tall one at the bottom. put some light stuffing in the tunnel and do the same idea as in 1. Also, put 703 on the back panel surrounding the plexi.

I just don't know how important the 703 is in the sound of these. Thanks for your thoughts.

[---k---]

Sounds like you want to put a big sport wing on a base-model Chevy Cobalt. All show, no go.

Important. You want to squash the wave coming off the back of the cone so that it doesn't reflect back on the cone. JonMarsh prefers Wispermat because it has a vinyl damping layer in addition to the foam. B&W likes to have a conch shell behind there's to destroy the back wave. If you were to do a plexiglass back, I would strongly recommend lots of fluffy stuffing between the driver and the back, which would cover up your bracing, so what is the point?

Many people love the poor sound from cheap speakers, so it is very possible that you could install a plexiglass back with no stuffing and be happy. You just wouldn't be getting the best sound quality out of the design. Looks vs. Performance. You got to live with them, you're choice.

[joeybutts]

Sounds like you want to put a big sport wing on a base-model Chevy Cobalt. All show, no go.

Important. You want to squash the wave coming off the back of the cone so that it doesn't reflect back on the cone. JonMarsh prefers Wispermat because it has a vinyl damping layer in addition to the foam. B&W likes to have a conch shell behind there's to destroy the back wave. If you were to do a plexiglass back, I would strongly recommend lots of fluffy stuffing between the driver and the back, which would cover up your bracing, so what is the point?

Many people love the poor sound from cheap speakers, so it is very possible that you could install a plexiglass back with no stuffing and be happy. You just wouldn't be getting the best sound quality out of the design. Looks vs. Performance. You got to live with them, you're choice.

No, absolutely not. I want the best overall sound quality, just was curious if there was another way to skin a cat. That's all. And that is why I asked before proceeding.

[joeybutts]

All braces finally done for these bad boys.



The brace not linked in the vertical brace is the lowest brace and will have slots for holding the crossovers, that is why the long sides are a bit wider....

[---k---]

That sure is pretty. I hope you're having fun.

[joeybutts]

That sure is pretty. I hope you're having fun.

My gf is insanely jealous of my speakers....cause I spend more time with them than her.

I love building them. The part I hate is coming up soon......the finish....

[joeybutts]

Dado's for bracing marked and routing will hopefully happen today.

[joeybutts]

Only got the baffle and one side done, but also got the bracing interlocking perfectly.

[saabracer23]

I thought the kahns were supposed to have the tweeter and mids off to one side as opposed to centered as they are in the statements. Sorry if I missed something.

Dan

[saabracer23]

Nm optical illusion, they are, my bad.

Dan

[joeybutts]

Hahahahah. they are off center ever so slightly....only a 1/4" for the mid and 1/2" for the tweet. Makes it JUST noticeable. As you noticed. :

[joeybutts]

One tower done!

Back baffle fitting nicely.....







A shot down the tower from the top....



Picture through the lower woofer cutout...



Tower mocked up! OMGGGGGGGGGG










Khans are not as deep but about 6" taller than my Dayton 8's. Of course I changed the height of my Khan's to 56.5".

[Txgrizzly]

very nice!, i have a bunch of drivers sitting in my garage waiting for me to get back out there and complete my HT setup...

[joeybutts]

very nice!, i have a bunch of drivers sitting in my garage waiting for me to get back out there and complete my HT setup...

Thanks Tx! Better have a build log!

[---k---]

One tower done!

Not done until there is music playing. Keep going!

[joeybutts]

Not done until there is music playing. Keep going!

Hahahah. True, true. Had to go out of town this weekend for a terribly, unfortunate circumstance, but hoping to get the other tower routed and interlocking this week.

After that need to plan out the back panel for plexi/terminals/access to crossovers on all speakers, then put in 703 and wiring and start gluing up!

[joeybutts]

Finally getting back to working on these.

I have outlined a plan of action but am torn on whether to do lexan windows with LED's or not. I feel if I do it on one speaker I should do it on all (khan's, dayton RS, Markk's). But looking at the Dayton RS, I don't like how any of it is working out (with the lexan involved). It doesn't feel right. The Khan's I think would look real nice, and looking at the Markk's I feel the same way as the Dayton RS.

Thinking I might nix the whole lexan idea. What do we think? I know it is a shame to not have the bracing showing but was thinking I would make a photo album of some key highlighting photos anyway.

[---k---]

I'm not sure what kind of responses you're looking for. But, to prove I'm still following along: I can appreciate the coolness of the lexan window, but I would never personally build it - not performance reasons, just personality.

[joeybutts]

I'm not sure what kind of responses you're looking for. But, to prove I'm still following along: I can appreciate the coolness of the lexan window, but I would never personally build it - not performance reasons, just personality.

I'm not looking for a response, just opinion.

Discussing this with other people they all say something along the same lines as you Ryan. I'm going to cut it out of the build and save the money and time. Over the entire HT build it saves me $2-$300 and a lot of time. I'll put $20-$40 into a photo album of some sort.

Time to get to work! :T

[mtmpenn]

I agree - no lexan. Lexan could be really cool in a flashy, nerdy kind of way. Don't take that the wrong way. I'm a huge nerd; nerds are great. BUT, when talking about something huge that will be prominently displayed in the home my personal preferences lean more to classy, modern, simple. I also live in a really small house. If I had a man cave that I could geek out I might feel differently. Maybe make a smaller cheaper set of speakers pimped out with some lexan and LED's so that if you go to a DIY you can bring them and make the rest of us jealous??? (l am envisioning a "LAN party" pair of speakers with lexan, LED, fan covers over the drivers, maybe an intel inside sticker, etc).

[joeybutts]

I agree - no lexan. Lexan could be really cool in a flashy, nerdy kind of way. Don't take that the wrong way. I'm a huge nerd; nerds are great. BUT, when talking about something huge that will be prominently displayed in the home my personal preferences lean more to classy, modern, simple. I also live in a really small house. If I had a man cave that I could geek out I might feel differently. Maybe make a smaller cheaper set of speakers pimped out with some lexan and LED's so that if you go to a DIY you can bring them and make the rest of us jealous??? (l am envisioning a "LAN party" pair of speakers with lexan, LED, fan covers over the drivers, maybe an intel inside sticker, etc).

Thanks Penn! That's what I was battling with. Keeping it classy and functional. The lexan was going to be on the back and the LED's wired to a rocker switch underneat. Two small windows, one at the top about 8x8 and another about 1.5ft from the bottom same style.

But as said. Keep it classy and modern. That's the plan. :T Oh. they will be prettyyyyyyyyy...... :lol:

[BeerParty]

maybe an intel inside sticker

I don't care who you are, that was funny! :rofl:

[BeerParty]

Keep it classy and modern. That's the plan.

Good plan. :T