RB985mkII or RMB1075 ?

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  • Ijon_Tichy
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 12

    RB985mkII or RMB1075 ?

    I am looking to get an amp to take the load off my RSX1055.

    I remember reading somewhere that some prefered the sound of the 985 over the 1075.

    Can anyone provide their preferences/suggestions?

    Also, if I am into 50/50 HT/music, but more critical about the music, should I go for one of these or something like the RB993 or a 2ch amp?
  • Gadgets
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 19

    #2
    Hi !

    Well, i'm not much of an expert but i would say - forget about the two and get a decent 2 CH amp for your fronts, then you can just use your rsx-1055 for the surrounds or if you'r running 5 ch system maybe even bridge 4 ch. to your rear speakers & the 5th one to the center. I have a 5 ch carver amp. & i intend to buy another 2 ch amp & do exactly the same.

    Enjoy !

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    • Aussie Geoff
      Super Senior Member
      • Oct 2003
      • 1914

      #3
      Ijon,

      It depends on whether you are (or ever) intend to go 7 channel and how much you listen to HT vs Stereo

      If you plan to play 7 channel in the future (highly recommended if your room is a reasonable size!) and like the Rotel sound then I would go RMB 1075 now (it's a big step up from the 1055 and yould really hear the difference). Then I would add an RB-1080 for the front left and right when you are ready.

      Why this way?
      1) The 1075 will make your stereo and surround better now and only costs a little more than the 1080.
      2) The 1080 will give you a further step up for Stereo quality when you go 7 channel.

      If you do 2 channel 1st, then you will miss out on the clear benefits in surround quality which can be scarily good with a 1075.

      I am basing this on your 50/50 music to HT mix. If you were only very rarely listening to HT (10%) and wanted the best possible stereo - then the 1080 or 985mkII now would be right.

      Either way you will really notice the improvement from the 1055's amps.

      Of course, later (once the upgrade bug really bites) you can then get a RSP-1068 and take the sound a whole stage further in quality

      Geoff

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      • eelco74
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2002
        • 394

        #4
        The 985MkII is an excellent amp. I found it a little less harsh on higher volumes than the 1075. But a used one should be around for $500.

        I agree with the previous poster. For stereo the best upgrade is to add a RB1070 or 1080 for the front channels. Adding a 985MkII or 1075 makes the setup complete.

        I use a RB-981 for the front channels and a RB-985MkII for the rest. The Denon 3801 is used as a processor, but will be replaced as soon as the RSP-1068 is available.




        Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
        Focal/Jmlab Electra 1028S, Electra CC, Electra SW1000S, Cobalt 705
        Pioneer KRL-37V, Epson EH-TW8100, Kinkping CES-180 77"inch

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        • Aussie Geoff
          Super Senior Member
          • Oct 2003
          • 1914

          #5
          Eelco,

          Get that order in now for the RSP-1068 from your friendly dealer so you're first on the list when they arrive in February / March.

          My friend had a Denon 3802 with the RSP 1075 and upgraded to the 1066 - an amazing difference, tranforming the sound of his HT and bringing strereo to 3 dimensionality at last. I also had the Denon 3802 with the Rotel Amps (1075 and 1080) and I replaced with a 1098 and got an even more "jaw dropping" effect. The best upgrade I have ever done..... ) - from a long long list of upgrades over 25 years....

          (With your speakers you'll really notice the difference...)

          Regards

          Geoff Costello

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          • Ijon_Tichy
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2003
            • 12

            #6
            eelco74,

            Did you do an AB comparison between the 985 and 1075?
            If you had the choice, which would you choose?

            I like the idea of having a 12volt trigger and a bit more power but before I choose I would like to hear more about differences between the two.

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            • eelco74
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2002
              • 394

              #7
              Well, the arrival of the 1068 is not confirmed in Europe, so I cannot order one. I have a contact ar Rotel/B&W Netherlands (he used to work at my Audio dealer).

              I know the 3801 is not thet great. I had a RC-972 pre-amp to match the RB-981. But when I bought the DVD-2900, I had to use the Denon as a pre-amp. The 5.1 input is not that bad, and surpisingly better than the CD input. Somehow the 5.1 input is more direct.

              Anyway I was saving for a 1066, but it took me a bit longer to save the money. Now that the 1068 is on the way I have a few more month to save. And to sell the 3801 :-)

              ps. I have been at the demo of the new JM-lab Utopia. Oh boy, they are awsome....if only they would not ask so mutch money for it :-)




              Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
              Focal/Jmlab Electra 1028S, Electra CC, Electra SW1000S, Cobalt 705
              Pioneer KRL-37V, Epson EH-TW8100, Kinkping CES-180 77"inch

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              • eelco74
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2002
                • 394

                #8
                Ijon,

                Yes, I had a new 1075 and a used 985MkII at home. Unless you drive them very loud, the difference to me is very little.

                The problem is that the 1075 new price is higher than the 985 newprice.
                This makes a used 985MkII very interesting.

                I found a 6 month old 985MkII for about $600. The 1075 is almost $1500. Remember prices in Europe are different than US.

                My options were :

                RSX-1055 ($2000) and RB-981 (my own)
                OR
                RSP-1066 ($1600) and a used 985 ($600) and my RB-981

                This was easy to choose. The last one is only a few bucks more expensive, but a better option becaus of the seperates.

                In a few years when we have Dolby AX/ES/8.1-3D, I can swap the processor and still keep the amps. They will last an eternity.


                I




                Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
                Focal/Jmlab Electra 1028S, Electra CC, Electra SW1000S, Cobalt 705
                Pioneer KRL-37V, Epson EH-TW8100, Kinkping CES-180 77"inch

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                • Blue-Eyes
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 162

                  #9
                  Hello,

                  someone mentioned the RB1070 instead of the RB985MKII.

                  I had both, used the 1070 for my fronts. After a while I bought new monoblocks for my fronts and sold my 1070. Because I had to wait for my new monoblocks I used the 985 for my fronts.

                  Wow..... I wonder why I ever used the 1070 for my fronts, the sound of the 985 was far more nice, smoother, more slam and control than the 1070. I never tested it, I supposed the 1070 was better. What a mistake!

                  My advice is never replace or buy a 1070 instead for a 985. Or buy the 985 or the 1080.The 1080 is far more better than the 1070.

                  Btw, I have JBL TIK10 as frontspeakers.




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