Took the 800D Plunge, Official 800D member !

[Allegiance]

Yeah Right.....

With your credit card that is ?

They would have to be super cheap amps with the way my credit balance is. :P

Anyway back to the topic, great setup i am sure it will sound fantastic no matter what amp you use. :T

[misterdoggy]

In fact I will box myself up and come down with them

I would love to visit Down under.

See the biggest baddest spiders, snakes, bugs, whatever's. See the Reefs. I've got someone I work with that has a shop at that famous Surfers beach ?? I forget the name.

Well I'll keep dreaming and you too......

[Allegiance]

In fact I will box myself up and come down with them

I would love to visit Down under.

See the biggest baddest spiders, snakes, bugs, whatever's. See the Reefs. I've got someone I work with that has a shop at that famous Surfers beach ?? I forget the name.

Well I'll keep dreaming and you too......

Surfers Paradise? Yes, I will keep dreaming :M

[misterdoggy]

Surfers Paradise? Yes, I will keep dreaming :M

No its got a name like Johns Beach or Normans or something like that

[Allegiance]

No its got a name like Johns Beach or Normans or something like that

Oh, I am not sure, I live in Melbourne, which is in Victoria. The state in bottom right corner. I don't visit beaches that much :P

[misterdoggy]

Bondi Beach

[Briz vegas]

In fact I will box myself up and come down with them

I would love to visit Down under.

See the biggest baddest spiders, snakes, bugs, whatever's. See the Reefs. I've got someone I work with that has a shop at that famous Surfers beach ?? I forget the name.

Well I'll keep dreaming and you too......

Yeah. I might pop down to surfers for a couple of hours tomorrow arvo. Scrunch some sand between the toes, check out the water temperature.

You keep dreaming of the antipodies and I'll keep dreaming of 800Ds. 8)

[misterdoggy]

Yeah. I might pop down to surfers for a couple of hours tomorrow arvo. Scrunch some sand between the toes, check out the water temperature.

You keep dreaming of the antipodies and I'll keep dreaming of 800Ds. 8)

You're a Lucky Guy :T :T

[Allegiance]

Yeah. I might pop down to surfers for a couple of hours tomorrow arvo. Scrunch some sand between the toes, check out the water temperature.

You keep dreaming of the antipodies and I'll keep dreaming of 800Ds. 8)

Surfers just becomes crazy with tourists/young dickheads all the time. I went for a holiday to hamilton island a while ago, that was nice. Very quiet, warm and relaxing! :B

[beden1]

Surfers just becomes crazy with tourists/young dickheads all the time. I went for a holiday to hamilton island a while ago, that was nice. Very quiet, warm and relaxing! :B

It was not that way when I started surfing back in the 1960's. We all looked out for one another, and offered help and assistance to those who were just starting out. I started surfing again about 6 years ago, and I was really upset to see that everyone is now just out for themselves, and get pissed when someone new is apparently "invading" their turf.

To me, the ocean is, and should always be a bastion of freedom . . . either while surfing or cruising the open seas.

[Allegiance]

It was not that way when I started surfing back in the 1960's. We all looked out for one another, and offered help and assistance to those who were just starting out. I started surfing again about 6 years ago, and I was really upset to see that everyone is now just out for themselves, and get pissed when someone new is apparently "invading" their turf.

To me, the ocean is, and should always be a bastion of freedom . . . either while surfing or cruising the open seas.

Sorry I didn't mean surfers as in people, I meant surfers as in a place :lol: . Surfers Paradise is a popular place in Queensland.

Surfers Paradise

[misterdoggy]

Well took a second plunge and picked up a pair of 1201's to power those 800D's

No need to think about whether or not there could be enough power or what could have been...

[dknightd]

Well took a second plunge and picked up a pair of 1201's to power those 800D's

No need to think about whether or not there could be enough power or what could have been...

;x(

[RebelMan]

Well took a second plunge and picked up a pair of 1201's to power those 800D's

No need to think about whether or not there could be enough power or what could have been...

You MadDawg you! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

misterdoggy is dead, long live MadDawg!!! :twisted:

[Allegiance]

Well took a second plunge and picked up a pair of 1201's to power those 800D's

No need to think about whether or not there could be enough power or what could have been...

Wow :E That's impressive! :T

[DM3000 Owner]

Well took a second plunge and picked up a pair of 1201's to power those 800D's

No need to think about whether or not there could be enough power or what could have been...

Was the over/under before he received the 800D's or the end of his first day of ownership? Either way the under's had it and you can now collect on your bets.

Congrats on the amps.

[Russ L]

You MadDawg you! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

misterdoggy is dead, long live MadDawg!!! :twisted:

LOL Or maybe misterMcdoggy.

Congrats on the definitive speaker-amp combo! but could you turn the volume down a bit I'm trying to get some sleep over here... :Z 8O

[ShadowZA]

Congratulations on your power acquisitions, Misterdoggy!

If you decide to call yourself MadDawg, you'll probably need a deputy. Could I be first choice? I don't need a salary. My "salary" could be in the form of music from your 800D's. And ... it would be tax free. I also don't care what work I have to do so long as such work is office-bound and that I can hear your 800D's from that office.

Congrats again!
:T :T :T

[Briz vegas]

1201 - is that a Big Mac or a Whopper. Will be interesting to read your thoughts on the new setup.

PS I would have used my computer art skills :roll: to put some blue meters on a hamburger but 1. that might cause offense and 2. I just realised that the olympic soccer is about to start on telly. What with all the cycling and soccer these last few days the hifi has been a little quiet

[misterdoggy]

I like McDoggy

Watch the Olympics, its more interesting that upgrading !!

[Allegiance]

I like McDoggy

Watch the Olympics, its more interesting that upgrading !!

:E I will pay for tickets to every event for you to swap setups with you! :B

[misterdoggy]

:E I will pay for tickets to every event for you to swap setups with you! :B

Money sure has a lot to do with it and if I had the same amount to spend I would probably end up with the exact same components (maybe a 1201 more)

[SRT-10 Viper]

So when do the 800Ds and 1201s arrive? We are all waiting to hear?

[misterdoggy]

800D's tomorrow and 1201's wednesday thursday

I will post fotos

I probably wont even sleep tonight thinking about tomorrow

Like a kid a christmas

no way for a grown man to behave

[Relentless]

no way for a grown man to behave

oh yea it is..

our toys just got a little more expensive.

High end audio, German automobiles, Swiss watches

[misterdoggy]

oh yea it is..

our toys just got a little more expensive.

High end audio, German automobiles, Swiss watches

Guilty on on 3 Counts ;b>

[RebelMan]

MadDawg (sorry Bruce the title fits LOL) - Are the 802D's out of the house to make room for the 800D's? A "month" came quickly.

[misterdoggy]

MadDawg (sorry Bruce the title fits LOL) - Are the 802D's out of the house to make room for the 800D's? A "month" came quickly.

Well I got a call from a guy in Czech Rep who wanted my 802D's which I put up for sale on a whim and thought if I get my price I'll sell, which was $1k more than I paid (bought very well).

So I called my contact in the USA and put $1k the same evening and told him to order me the pair. I thought it would take longer, but the time it took for the guy from Czech to come the speakers were delivered to the dealer.

It took only 5-6 days with Bax as they are coming this morning thursday and only left last friday.

I've only been without the 802D's for a week.

Let me say that the 804S' are no match for the htm1d. When the trifield (3front speakers) is playing the htm1d is just overpowering. It is one outstanding speaker.

I could see a system with just htm1d's. Fantastic Bass... ;x(

[SRT-10 Viper]

MadDawg (It's catching on)... I agree, love the HTM1D bass. Are you running with the ports open or plugged? I received my second JL F113 sub last night... I've got lot's of work to integrate 2 subs into my room. First pass I did not like the sound. But subs take longer to setup/integrate when you go with more than 1... Looking forward to your pictures!

[misterdoggy]

Unplugged

I like using the Vents

The speakers are here in my driveway, but I need to find 5 sturdy men to help move themup a flight of stairs.

Wish I could strap them on my back but will have to be patient

[misterdoggy]

McDoggy Here and first impressions on the 800D

Well the 802D's were not bad and if I had never heard these I would have been happy but.......

Whoa.........Errrrrr.......New Ball Game

I am too busy listening and will let everyone know what I think but first impression is the bass is so deep and rich, its as though I never heard it before...

I am waiting for 1201's and see what happens then will take fotos and report all promise

[sikoniko]

McDoggy Here and first impressions on the 800D

Well the 802D's were not bad and if I had never heard these I would have been happy but.......

Whoa.........Errrrrr.......New Ball Game

You bring up an interesting point that I would like to re-iterate from my own previous observations of comparisons between the 802D and 800D.

I believe that the 802D has a better ROI than the 800D. That does not mean that the 800D is not better, I'm just not convinced that for most people, that $9000 MSRP price difference is worth the jump.

Those of you that are able to make the leap to the 800D, certainly are acheiving audio bliss though.

[RebelMan]

I'm just not convinced that for most people, that $9000 MSRP price difference is worth the jump

For anyone that puts bass production high on their list (this includes just about everyone) and can afford the entry fee will find the price more than worth it. Many three-ways draw attention to themselves because of crossover distortion and design and acoustic oddities (like resonant signatures) that emanate from the inherent construction of the low frequency drivers and the cabinetry. This can make positioning the speakers so as to disappear difficult if not impossible in domestic settings. Two-ways are much, much easier in this regard. However, the 800D is a master of bass reproduction and nearly trivial to place. Having lived with mine for about two years I find it worth every penny of its asking. The midrange is also a step above the 802D but a little less notable. The 800D gets as close to audio nirvana as one is likely to find but without the considerably higher costs incurred from others.

[misterdoggy]

For anyone that puts bass production and articulation high on their list (this includes just about everyone) and can afford the entry fee will find the price more than worth it. Many three-ways draw attention to themselves because of crossover distortion and design and acoustic oddities (like resonant signatures) that emanate from the inherent construction of the low frequency drivers and cabinetry.

The midrange is also a step above the 802D but a little less notable. The 800D gets as close to audio nirvana as one is likely to find but without the considerably higher costs incurred from others.

Amen !! It is true

Audio Nirvana is close at hand ;x( ;x( ;x( ;x( ;x(

[sikoniko]

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[sikoniko]

For anyone that puts bass production high on their list (this includes just about everyone) and can afford the entry fee will find the price more than worth it. Many three-ways draw attention to themselves because of crossover distortion and design and acoustic oddities (like resonant signatures) that emanate from the inherent construction of the low frequency drivers and the cabinetry. This can make positioning the speakers so as to disappear difficult if not impossible in domestic settings. Two-ways are much, much easier in this regard. However, the 800D is a master of bass reproduction and nearly trivial to place. Having lived with mine for about two years I find it worth every penny of its asking. The midrange is also a step above the 802D but a little less notable. The 800D gets as close to audio nirvana as one is likely to find but without the considerably higher costs incurred from others.

You're taking my statement out of context.

"Anyone who puts bass reproduction high on their list" probably can't afford the 800D's. 802D's are probably a stretch for most people. There is a premium to jump up to the 800D's. For those that can afford that jump, then yes, it will pay-off.

This can make positioning the speakers so as to disappear difficult if not impossible in domestic settings.

I disagree (FUD). I've never had a problem making ANY of my b&w speakers disapear. From 600's up to 800s - and in any of my living environments, dedicated or otherwise. What I've had a problem with was feeling a balance / fullness in the range of audio coming from the speaker. I agree that the 800D has the best balance when it comes to delivery of audio.

BUT, for the cost (meaning not just the cost of the speaker, but also the additional cost of electronics to drive the speaker) the 802d fits nicely.

My comment wasn't a knock to bring the 800D owners out of the wood-work or offend, it was merely a statement of price-to-performance ratio.

[misterdoggy]

So far I just put the 800D's in one place (where the 802D's were before/ and they clicked right off.

I had that sweet spot come back and the bass is incredible.

[Hallett]

Misterdoggy congratulations on your new 800D's when you set them up did you use
the exact same location or did you play with the position. :T

[misterdoggy]

same position but only toed in slightly

I had to toe in the 802D's severely while the 800D's are more open to the front

They are just outstanding right out of the box

The major difference is in the Bass, its night and day with the 802's, anyone says they are close it is not true.

They resonate

[Hallett]

same position but only toed in slightly

I had to toe in the 802D's severely while the 800D's are more open to the front

They are just outstanding right out of the box

The major difference is in the Bass, its night and day with the 802's, anyone says they are close it is not true.

They resonate

Thank you Misterdoggy I have been kicking around the idea of making the upgrade
to the 800D's I just got my CA-M400 mono's they sound real nice .I need to make
a trip to checkout the 800D's. I am looking forward to your pic's.

thanks again.

[sikoniko]

same position but only toed in slightly

I had to toe in the 802D's severely while the 800D's are more open to the front

They are just outstanding right out of the box

The major difference is in the Bass, its night and day with the 802's, anyone says they are close it is not true.

They resonate

yes, how about interim pics. you're not going to make us a wait a week are you?

[jericho]

Hé McDoggy

You see and hear what I meant with better bass on those 800D's, compared with the 802D's, just wait until you have those 1201's and than we'll talk again, you won't believe your ears.
Especially at low level there's a big difference.It's like driving a car with 500HP at 30 miles an hour.You feel (hear) that there's a hugh amount of power available.
Hope seeing some pictures and hearing from you if I was right or not

[RebelMan]

You're taking my statement out of context.

"Anyone who puts bass reproduction high on their list" probably can't afford the 800D's. 802D's are probably a stretch for most people. There is a premium to jump up to the 800D's. For those that can afford that jump, then yes, it will pay-off.

I don't think so. There is an equal argument to be made at any price point. Afordability aside, the 800D is pound for pound and dollar for dollar the most balanced speaker available from its maker.

I disagree (FUD). I've never had a problem making ANY of my b&w speakers disapear. From 600's up to 800s - and in any of my living environments, dedicated or otherwise. What I've had a problem with was feeling a balance / fullness in the range of audio coming from the speaker.

Good for you. I would also like to think that a Honda Civic handle's like a Maserati GranTurismo. :W

BUT, for the cost (meaning not just the cost of the speaker, but also the additional cost of electronics to drive the speaker) the 802d fits nicely.

My comment wasn't a knock to bring the 800D owners out of the wood-work or offend, it was merely a statement of price-to-performance ratio.

To a point but the 802D is losing ground on price/performance basis. Since the 802's introduction in 1998 it has increased in price by 75.00% whereas the 800 has only seen an increased of 43.75%. The literal difference amounts to just $1K. If the price increase continues at this pace it won't be long for most people to catch on that the sweet spot is closer to the top echelon in the series and it does not require any more power than the 802D to reach the same SPL.

[SRT-10 Viper]

MD, use this time (waiting for your 1201s) to break-in your speakers. They will get much better than what you are hearing now. I know it's hard to believe, but they will get better.

[wettou]

To a point but the 802D is losing ground on price/performance basis.

It all depends, I got my 802Ds brand new for 27% off the MSRP! Yes for me the price/performance ratio was a killer.

Unfortunately a few months later this dealer closed it's doors after twenty-five years in operation:cry: