Took the 800D Plunge, Official 800D member !

[misterdoggy]

Well Guys, after much deliberation (not that much) and sleepless nights (1 night) I decided to try and put my 802D's up for sale and see what would happen. Well within 10 hours they were sold for the correct price in Europe and I have ordered the 800D's

I will have to live with 804S' as my L&R with the HTM1D as the center for probably at least a month before they come, but I wanted to make sure the 802D's were sold before ordering new ones.

I sure hope B&W doesn't come out with a new speaker next month.

[RebelMan]

CONGRATS doggy! You will love them. Thanks to you I am on the verge of getting the HTM1D for my pad. Two different trails leading to the same destination. Crazy world we live in eh? :P

[misterdoggy]

I went for new rather than used.

New if I bought and waited from the States, or Used here in Europe right away

Same price. Then I thought about it and you never know what speakers have been through.

I could have bought used from the States and it would be for nothing here, but asking a private person to set up shipping is a tough one. Plus the declarations for a small amount starts becoming complicated.

[ShadowZA]

Congratulations!

:T :T :T

First class, Misterdoggy! No doubt, your musical enjoyment is set to exceed beyond your wildest expectation!

:T :T :T

[misterdoggy]

Thanks Shadow,

It'll be a few weeks with the 804S', so nothing less than shocking when the 800D's arrive.

I hope the "little lady" isn't going to be shocked and horrified by the size.

They are just a little bigger than the 802d's right ?

[rompower]

A little bit bigger, 2" on each side but well... as long as she's not moving them.. You'll be fine DD
a... small 125Kg for the 800D :P

800D
Height: 1180mm (46.5 in) (not including feet)
Width: 450mm (17.7 in)
Depth: 645mm (25.4 in)
Net weight 125kg (275 lb)

802D
Height: 1135mm (44.7in) (not including feet)
Width: 368mm (14.5in)
Depth: 563mm (22.2in)
Net weight 80kg (176 lb)

[misterdoggy]

4.5 cm higher
8.2 cm wider (this will be noticeable)
8.2 cm deeper (this together with the width will be notceable)

Yeah its a big Baby !!!

We'll the wife will definitely complain, but its part of the price

[wettou]

Well Guys, after much deliberation (not that much) and sleepless nights (1 night) I decided to try and put my 802D's up for sale and see what would happen. Well within 10 hours they were sold for the correct price in Europe and I have ordered the 800D's

Cool how much did you sell them for and where did you advertise? I might do that as well depending on what price I can get?

[Birdy]

Well Guys, after much deliberation (not that much) and sleepless nights (1 night) I decided to try and put my 802D's up for sale and see what would happen. Well within 10 hours they were sold for the correct price in Europe and I have ordered the 800D's

One day you'll have to explain to me how you buy in states while living in France ( living myself in Italy and at the price of the $, I might be interested myself someday.... :W )

Anyway congrats on the move and I wish you a lot of patience.... :P :P :P

Birdy

[RebelMan]

4.5 cm higher
8.2 cm wider (this will be noticeable)
8.2 cm deeper (this together with the width will be notceable)

Yeah its a big Baby !!!

We'll the wife will definitely complain, but its part of the price

This is a misnomer, the 800D cabinet is only slightly larger than the 802D. The big differences come from the sizes of plinths. The speakers are not that different...

Precise cabinet sizes (includes everything minus the plinth)...

802D

H - 107.5 cm
W - 37.5 cm
D - 53.1 cm

800D

H - 109.7 cm
W - 40.6 cm
D - 57.4 cm

Actual differences...

H - 2.5 cm
W - 3.1 cm
D - 4.3 cm

[Kal Rubinson]

Numbers aside, the visual presentation is quite different. Of course, that does include the base.

[RebelMan]

Visuals aside, you need a set too Kal. They will make integration with your room's acoustics more amiable... :twisted:

[RebelMan]

Here is a perspective view of the two togther. Keep in mind I said perspective. This means objects further away will look smaller, still the photo gives some feel for the difference in overall sizes. You should notice that the 800D plinth is substantially larger between the two than the cabinet.

[beden1]

Here is a perspective view of the two togther. Keep in mind I said perspective. This means objects further away will look smaller, still the photo gives some feel for the difference in overall sizes. You should notice that the 800D plinth is substantially larger between the two than the cabinet.

Now, if I could only find a great deal on a pair of black 800Ds as shown in this picture, and figure out how to move these monsters into my house . . . I would be a very happy camper!

[misterdoggy]

Rebelman

thanks for the fotos. Gives an idea what to expect.

MIne are Natural Cherrywood. Got 25% off on American Price

Put that together with a weak weak Dollar and I'm less than 1/2 new price in Europe. Even cheaper than you can buy a pair used in Europe.

Wettou

I will tell you where I sold soon......

[Kal Rubinson]

Visuals aside, you need a set too Kal. They will make integration with your room's acoustics more amiable... :twisted:

I know. I have had 800s in my room before but three of them would clog up the front view.

Kal

[RebelMan]

I donno Kal. I think I would try and find a way in your shoes... (Teaser c/o Abbey Roads enclosed.) :B

[Tommy]

Wow, congrats! You have just reached the TOP!

[wettou]

Got 25% off on American Price Put that together with a weak weak Dollar and I'm less than 1/2 new price in Europe. Even cheaper than you can buy a pair used in Europe. Wettou I will tell you where I sold soon......

How did you get 25% was this from a dealer? If yes please give me the name privately, I will definitely buy 800Ds then and sell my 802D If that dealer carries Classé I will get the three CA-M400 as well.

Yes European should come to the US and buy more they will get great deals and it will help our economy :T

[sc2]

How did you get 25% was this from a dealer? If yes please give me the name privately, I will definitely buy 800Ds then and sell my 802D If that dealer carries Classé I will get the three CA-M400 as well.

Yes European should come to the US and buy more they will get great deals and it will help our economy :T

I thought you had to be present at the store to purchase both Classe & B& W.

Steve

[Pedro]

Congratulations MD!!! What gear are you going to use to drive them?

Soon i will get my 801D´s for my new stereo

[SRT-10 Viper]

MD, Congratulations... My HTM1D (due to your other post!!!) shows up Friday to replace my htm2D and compliment my 800Ds... Can't wait!

[RebelMan]

MD, Congratulations... My HTM1D (due to your other post!!!) shows up Friday to replace my htm2D and compliment my 800Ds... Can't wait!

I will have to live vicariously through you until I make my move and/or doggy's 800's come in. I hope you can accommodate me(us) with some head shots come Friday (pretty please).

[DM3000 Owner]

800D Membership.

I feel slighted. Older 800's don't count? Nautilus, Signature and Matrix 800's :E

[RebelMan]

800D Membership.

I feel slighted. Older 800's don't count? Nautilus, Signature and Matrix 800's :E

They count, especially the Signatures! :T

The Nautilus are in a class all by themselves. I think Aldo stands alone but he is not forgotten, not for a second.

[misterdoggy]

Wow.....

A lot of responses from everyone everywhere

DM3000 Of course "any" 800 Counts !! The club doesn't specify which 800 :T

Pedro

I am using McIntosh mc501's and hope they will do the Job. I am using a MC501 on the HTM1D center and its plenty. Don't tell me I'm gonna need mc1201's to drive those suckers cause I'm not gonna shell out any more $$.

I'd like to quit the 'upgradis habit'.... I'll take up smoking it would be a cheaper habit

[Relentless]

Wow, congrats! You have just reached the TOP!

Wouldn't the Nautilus be considered the "Top"?

anyway Congrats on the 800D's .... I can not find something I dislike about the sound of those speakers.

[misterdoggy]

Top definition =

The uppermost part, point, surface, or end.

Hopefully it is the "End", whether or not its the top is another story

[Briz vegas]

It will be curious to find out if your listening habits change at all living with the 804s for a while.

I also wonder about the lack of room treatment that some of you fortunate 800D owners seem to have. There would have to be so much available performance that you are not achieving. I guess the WAF issue would probably raise its head if you started putting up traps of various descriptions. Maybe you should have a strategy for those times when the other half is not around.

It would be a really interesting to compare a lesser 800 with room treatment and a good setup (giving speakers breathing room for example) vs a top of the line drool-fest model without. Of course ideally you would have the 800D and the room set up just right.

Contrats on the new speakers by the way Mister D.

[misterdoggy]

Briz

Well there is the other half and you have to give in somewhere

Just having an enormous system in the main living area "in your face" is already an accomplishment

I have actually heard top speakers in Recording Studios and nothing less comes close

If you think that you can accomplish Recording studio sound in your living room with traps you are mistaken. The walls, ceiling and every aspect of a sound room is ideal for treating sound. You "could" approach this with a dedicated listening room, but then you would be all alone in your room and the rest of the family would probably never come in.

I would rather give up a little, gain it back with good material and share it in the living room.

There are many though, who cherish their listening time alone in a "getaway" "hidden garden" setting and can do what they want there.

I have listened to speakers in many stores, without special listening rooms and can tell you that I am happy with the sounds coming out of my system ..

[SRT-10 Viper]

MD, You have the same approach as I do. I have a basement that is unfinished and decided I'd be down there alone if I finished it as a listening / HT room. I give up a little sound and picture quality with my pull down screen but keep the family.

RebelMan, I'll put up some pictures of the HTM1D this weekend.

[scanido]

Congrats on the new speakers. Now ya know those 800D's love power. The MC1201's should do them good!

[misterdoggy]

Congrats on the new speakers. Now ya know those 800D's love power. The MC1201's should do them good!

Come'on you know I only got 501's

You mean 500 watts @ 8 ohms = How much at 4 ohms should do the trick

No more Huge Amp's in the House No Way Not possible No Room

I will have to take an apartment so My Hifi has my home (my home) and I can come and visti it :rofl: :rofl:

[beden1]

Congrats on the new speakers. Now ya know those 800D's love power. The MC1201's should do them good!

Amen . . . there's no substitute for power!

Don't you love it when other people like to spend your money? :B

[misterdoggy]

Amen . . . there's no substitute for power!

Don't you love it when other people like to spend your money? :B

Maybe whoever thinks I should upgrade should pay the difference, then we'll see how strongly the recommendation will stand :lol:

[beden1]

Maybe whoever thinks I should upgrade should pay the difference, then we'll see how strongly the recommendation will stand :lol:

Excellent idea! I'd like to upgrade to the 800Ds too. Are there any takers to pay for my upgrade? :T

[Kal Rubinson]

If you think that you can accomplish Recording studio sound in your living room with traps you are mistaken. The walls, ceiling and every aspect of a sound room is ideal for treating sound.

First, I do not think that recording studios should be held up as a standard. Some of the worst auditions I have heard, with decent audio equipment, have been in recording studios. Recording studios are for producing sounds. Mixing and mastering rooms are for listening and are optimized for that. My brief visit to Bob Ludwig's main room at Gateway Studio was really impressive.

Second, even if redesign and complete treatment are impossible, some basic efforts will have huge effects and should not be ignored by any serious listener. I, too, am married and my wife is fairly picky about decor but you would be surprised what can be done with effort and a bit of collaboration.

Kal

[misterdoggy]

First, I do not think that recording studios should be held up as a standard. Some of the worst auditions I have heard, with decent audio equipment, have been in recording studios. Recording studios are for producing sounds. Mixing and mastering rooms are for listening and are optimized for that. My brief visit to Bob Ludwig's main room at Gateway Studio was really impressive.

Second, even if redesign and complete treatment are impossible, some basic efforts will have huge effects and should not be ignored by any serious listener. I, too, am married and my wife is fairly picky about decor but you would be surprised what can be done with effort and a bit of collaboration.

Kal

Kal,

You are right, I meant to say listening rooms. I actually was in the listening room at a Beatles recording session way back when.

Of course the Studio where the instruments and singers are, is not ideal, but only for microphones and separation of sounds.

The mixing Room is where the comparison starts and ends

Like you said, you're wife and you collaborate, however, knowing who you are all these years, I think gives you a little more clout in the home arena.

I mean you can say I am writing a review on these 10 Krell Amps so Honey would you mind if I set them up in the middle of the living room.

I on the other hand, I sell Art and its important to have Art on the walls and the living room look more like a Gallery than a HT. Trying to balance the best of both worlds I guess.

Maybe you can let me write a review for you and I will tell my wife I've been hired and need to test out several 1201 McIntosh's that the factory is going to let me keep after the trial. This is a way to justify them coming and staying. (while I am really buying them of course) :T :T

[DM3000 Owner]

Mixing and mastering rooms are for listening and are optimized for that. My brief visit to Bob Ludwig's main room at Gateway Studio was really impressive.

Kal

Kal,

When I bought my S800's I was seriously considering Eggleston Andra I or II's. I always really liked the look of the S800's and your review was quite positive (and you ultimately bought B&W's) an dI already had 800 Series Nautilus speakers at the time.

I know that Ludwig's studio uses Eggleston Ivy's and if memory serves me correctly, they have similar crossovers to the Eggleston Andra I's (midrange has no filters).

Can you elaborate on the differences between the Egglestons and the B&W 800 speakers? I already had B&W N801's so I knew the house sound and Egglestons were not available for a demo here in Las Vegas.

[Kal Rubinson]

Like you said, you're wife and you collaborate, however, knowing who you are all these years, I think gives you a little more clout in the home arena.

Well, the collaboration is more on my part in seeking ways to assuage her objections while accomplishing, at least incrementally, what I want. I can tell you that, when Ethan Winer drove up with a truck-load of MondoTraps and MiniTraps, my wife lit out. I had to assure her that they would be VERY temporary and be gone in few weeks. They were.

I mean you can say I am writing a review on these 10 Krell Amps so Honey would you mind if I set them up in the middle of the living room.

Again, only temporarily. It's not as if I do this for a living; it's simply that I have taken my hobby to a particular extreme.

Kal

[Kal Rubinson]

Can you elaborate on the differences between the Egglestons and the B&W 800 speakers?

Not really. While I have not been that impressed with Egglestons at show demos, Ludwig's room is way beyond anything I have experienced before or since and that alone makes comparison impossible.

Kal

[sikoniko]

Again, only temporarily. It's not as if I do this for a living; it's simply that I have taken my hobby to a particular extreme.

Kal

Do you have a "day job" too Kal (outside of stereophile)?

[misterdoggy]

Is anyone driving the 800D's with 501's or less power ?

[Kal Rubinson]

Do you have a "day job" too Kal (outside of stereophile)?

Where's the smiley?

I do reviewing for fun and because I am as crazy about these things as most people around here. The pay is small but appreciated. After taxes, it roughly covers my garage rent.

Kal

[RebelMan]

Here it is Kal... :B