Back speakers ?

[Stevebez]

Thinking of getting 802D's for fronts and move my 803D's to rear since I will have more space soon in new house...

This leaves two questions what to get for the two back speakers (going 7.1 now) and what to get for centre... ?

I demoed the HTM2D in my current apartment and was not overwhelmed sounded boxy to me - but maybe need to try it in this new room.

Power will in all liklihood be 3 x 1092 , 1 x 1091 Rotels.
Also will probably get DD18 velo to replace my DD12. Might get 2 DD18's but will see how one goes.

Room is 25.5' x 20' with high angled ceiling ....

Thots and advice please ?

[misterdoggy]

Stevebez,

Have you tried the Rotels with the 802D's ? I'm wondering how they sound.

[Stevebez]

Nope ... this is work in progress at mom ... but thats what I am wroking towards.

Maybe teh 802's deserve a Classe or something but that 1092 has got more guts than any amp I have EVER heard.

[misterdoggy]

So you've heard the 1092's ? and the 1091 ? With what speakers. How do you like the sound timbre, bass etc ?

[RebelMan]

misterdoggy, what are you up to? I was not impressed with the RB-1092 when joined to the 802D. It doesn't carry Rotel's signature sound that the RMB-1077 and RB-1090 share. I could dig up the 'ol link to the post I made in Club Rotel if you like.

In short I found the the 1092 to be a brute and lacking finesse for music sources. Although they would suit any home theater quite well.

[RebelMan]

I demoed the HTM2D in my current apartment and was not overwhelmed sounded boxy to me - but maybe need to try it in this new room.

I have to agree. I was hoping my HTM3S would work well enough to keep with the 800D which I replaced my 803S with. Unfortunately, I am finding it more troublesome than I had hoped it would be and will have to live without it.

The 800D are much taller and considerably more open than either the 803S and HTM3S are which is causing extreme timbre imbalances. I also find side-to-side motion and panning unbearable to listen to. Midband smearing is exacerbated given that the center sits on a relatively low stand (to accommodate the screen above it). Even though the HTM3S is sitting on an 8 degree incline to bandaid some of these issues, it falls too short of my goals and I have no other driver alignment options at my disposal.

The phantom center the 800D creates does a tremendous job in picking up the slack but it's not ideal. A third 800D would be perfect but I have no place to put it without it blocking the screen.

The HTM2D is a near perfect match to compliment the 803D but not good enough to pair with the 802D, IMO. If all you want to play through the surrounds are movie soundtracks, and you want a clean unobtrusive look and feel in your room the SCMS will work very well with any of the 800 Series speakers. I have a pair I am using with my 800D and they sound great together.

[Stevebez]

Had the 1092 for some time now and I really like it. Its different to the laid back 1080 / 1075 sound. How you ask? Well sound stage is more in your face... not up close and personal but more forward than the torroids.

Have to say I am a bit of a convert. I was an analogue guy through and through ... but these D amps have got my attention. I was really worried about the top end maybe being fuzzy or noisy ... but they are crystal to me ... Its really a bit like vinyl vs CD... and yes some still believe vinyl is better. Fine. I don't.

The amps are closer than the vinyl CD comparo but for the size the performance is really staggering. The problem boils down to that I have not heard a 1090. I did not want to 'coz I dont (did not) have the space for one. I am kinda disappointed I like the D's so much. I really wanted to say "no way I am keeping my 1080" ... but the 803D's really relish and shine with the added gusto of the 1092 that the 1080 cannot hold a candle to... and then there was the 1080's trigger fuse issue.

Maybe I try a 1090 for stereo just to see - now that I have space - but I would not get 3 of them thats for sure, where with a 1092 its easier!!!

The 1091 is just one channel of a 1092 - I doubt it will be any different - but have not heard it.

[ac81017]

Thinking of getting 802D's for fronts and move my 803D's to rear since I will have more space soon in new house...

This leaves two questions what to get for the two back speakers (going 7.1 now) and what to get for centre... ?

I demoed the HTM2D in my current apartment and was not overwhelmed sounded boxy to me - but maybe need to try it in this new room.

Power will in all liklihood be 3 x 1092 , 1 x 1091 Rotels.
Also will probably get DD18 velo to replace my DD12. Might get 2 DD18's but will see how one goes.

Room is 25.5' x 20' with high angled ceiling ....

Thots and advice please ?

Why not sell your 803´s and buy 2 pairs of 805´s? That´s what I would do! You´ll have enough bass with 1 or 2 dd18´s, and the 805s do look nice and have a very nice sound! :T

[misterdoggy]

Why not sell your 803´s and buy 2 pairs of 805´s? That´s what I would do! You´ll have enough bass with 1 or 2 dd18´s, and the 805s do look nice and have a very nice sound! :T

SELL 803D's for 805's. :naughty:

Do I hear correctly

Sell your 803D's for 802D's but not 805's.

That would be a step backward for mankind..........

[Stevebez]

I'd like to maintain the D theme across the setup... thats why I am a little stuck with the rears ... cannot justify more 803D's although now that I think about it ...!!! :twisted:

Gawd I think my bank manager just jumped out a window.....

[ac81017]

SELL 803D's for 805's. :naughty:

Do I hear correctly

Sell your 803D's for 802D's but not 805's.

That would be a step backward for mankind..........

you mean to tell me, that this guy should have three pair of super high end speakers fro surround :banana:

As he said himself, his bank manager has jumped out of the window!!

Sure it would be cool to have 7.1 with only 802/3D´s!

A bit more down to earth idea would be to buy two pair of 805´s or 804´s and sell, or chosse between 802 or 803 as front speakers! :lol:

[Stevebez]

I really think B&W should have surrounds that have D spec tweeters... or am I am being really picky ?

[ac81017]

I really think B&W should have surrounds that have D spec tweeters... or am I am being really picky ?

There is nothing wrong with being picky! Is it not possible to contact B&W and maybe buy the D spec tweeters and change them onto another speaker of your choice?? That´s what I would do! :T