802ds

**Aldo** · 10 November 2006, 13:18 Friday

I have 802Ds with the MC-252 they sound incredibly well, fine detaled, marvelous soundstage, GREAT combo!

**chuck1801** · 10 November 2006, 14:25 Friday

You will find quite a few people on this board who have 802Ds powered with amps in the 200 wpc range, me included (3x802D with Classe CA-3200). I will say ditto to Aldo's description of the sound quality.

**Angioguy** · 10 November 2006, 17:58 Friday

802D + Mac

I started with 803S and was initially going to get the MC-252, but then I realized I would sooner upgrade, which is why I went with the MC-402. Not long after, I got the 802D's... I couldn't be happier (at the moment)!

**EDK** · 12 November 2006, 09:55 Sunday

I had the 803 powered with the Mc 402 and loved them. BUT,, when I went to the 802Ds, WOW!!!!!! the 802Ds are several steps above the 803s. I then went to the Mc501s monoblocks and all is great!

**tboooe** · 12 November 2006, 12:38 Sunday

Originally posted by ATLRick

I currently have a pair of 803Ss powered by a McIntosh MC-252. I am nearing the end of my upgrade period for the speakers, and I am considering upgrading to 802ds. Does anyone have any experience with 802ds coupled with that amp or any quality amp in that power range. My dealer only has a MC-402 to listen to and its a PITA to lug my amp to the dealer. ;x(

Heres a thought, what about going all the way to the 800d??? I upgraded from the 804S to the 802d and in retrospect, I would have seriously considered going straight to the pinnacle...in my opinion and to my ears, (flame suit on :f> ), the 802d have some qualities that I do not praticularly like especially at the price point. Dont get me wrong, the 802d are great speakers. They were just not right for me.

**Joey_V** · 12 November 2006, 15:34 Sunday

Originally posted by tboooe

Dont get me wrong, the 802d are great speakers. They were just not right for me.

Tboooe,
Dont you still own 802ds??
Joey

**Kal Rubinson** · 12 November 2006, 19:30 Sunday

Originally posted by tboooe

Heres a thought, what about going all the way to the 800d??? I upgraded from the 804S to the 802d and in retrospect, I would have seriously considered going straight to the pinnacle...in my opinion and to my ears, (flame suit on :f> ), the 802d have some qualities that I do not praticularly like especially at the price point. Dont get me wrong, the 802d are great speakers. They were just not right for me.

Aside from the extreme bass, what differences can there be?

Kal

**tboooe** · 12 November 2006, 20:53 Sunday

well Kal i am no expert but the xovers and cabinet are different which i am sure changes the sound.

**sikoniko** · 12 November 2006, 22:32 Sunday

Originally posted by tboooe

well Kal i am no expert but the xovers and cabinet are different which i am sure changes the sound.

I think its been said that the xover is the same.

I a/b the 802d's vs the 800d's with a classe system. (cp-700, cdp100, ca-m400's). To be honest with you, i think it would really depend on your room whether there would be much of a difference, maybe not enough to justify the expense in some cases. the 800d's were very subtle, and more efficient, but im not sure if they were worth $8k more, retail cost.

**tboooe** · 12 November 2006, 23:21 Sunday

Originally posted by sikoniko

I think its been said that the xover is the same.

I a/b the 802d's vs the 800d's with a classe system. (cp-700, cdp100, ca-m400's). To be honest with you, i think it would really depend on your room whether there would be much of a difference, maybe not enough to justify the expense in some cases. the 800d's were very subtle, and more efficient, but im not sure if they were worth $8k more, retail cost.

I thought the 800d uses some better components in the xover even though the design of the xover is the same as the 802d.

**Jesse111** · 13 November 2006, 10:33 Monday

The 800D does in fact use better componants in the crossover. It is 2 inches taller and outperforms the 802 mostly in the upper mid bass is what I noticed. That's not a negative jab at the 802. For the price of the 800 it should perform better and does. If they ever make a 900D and it retails for 30k, I won't be offended if it outperforms my 800D. I'll expect it.

As for an amp for the 802, a pair of McIntosh 501's would take the 802 to it's full potential. Highly recommended.

**dknightd** · 13 November 2006, 11:27 Monday

It really depends on what you want and what you value. Sometimes I like to turn my music up way too loud, so I like to get an amp that insures the speaker will clip before the amp does. Obviously either is bad. . . Balance is key. You may want a bigger
amp for the 802 if you want to take advantage of their bigger power handling capacity. If you listen only at reasonable levels what you have is probably fine (in fact very good).

**Kal Rubinson** · 13 November 2006, 13:16 Monday

Originally posted by tboooe

well Kal i am no expert but the xovers and cabinet are different which i am sure changes the sound.

The crossovers and the mid and high drivers and their enclosures are the same. Only the bass enclosures are different. IMHO.

Kal

**Kal Rubinson** · 13 November 2006, 13:17 Monday

Originally posted by Jesse111

The 800D does in fact use better componants in the crossover.

I thought we debunked this a while back.

Kal

**Jesse111** · 13 November 2006, 14:32 Monday

Not debunked but proven as I recall. I believe it was a fact finding discussion between you (Kal) and Rebleman. Perhaps I am mistaken I will try to find the info again and post it.

**RebelMan** · 14 November 2006, 03:48 Tuesday

Originally posted by Kal Rubinson

Aside from the extreme bass, what differences can there be?

Not to discredit the 802D in anyway, I would love to own an 802D for my center channel as my HTM3S must now go - more on this for another time, but the bass delivered by the 800D is not what I would call extreme but supreme! LOL

Seriously, I have auditioned the 802D on countless occasions and as good as they are the 800D, that I have lived with for more than two months, delivers bass that is to me ( and a few of your compatriots I might add

) quite proficient.

Have you heard a pair of 800D?

**RebelMan** · 14 November 2006, 04:05 Tuesday

Originally posted by Jesse111

Not debunked but proven as I recall. I believe it was a fact finding discussion between you (Kal) and Rebleman. Perhaps I am mistaken I will try to find the info again and post it.

It was determined the crossovers used in the D series speakers share the same components but varied in value. This alone wouldn't make the 800D a better speaker than the 802D. But crossover values aren't chosen at random. They are chosen to complement the types, sizes and arrangement of the drivers employed which will have an enormous impact on imaging and soundstaging.

**ATLRick** · 14 November 2006, 09:53 Tuesday

Thanks to all for your insight, my dealer has agreed to set up his demo 802Ds in my home theater room to listen to with my McIntosh MC-252 for a few days. I'll let you know what I think after some serious listening.

**Kal Rubinson** · 14 November 2006, 13:10 Tuesday

Originally posted by RebelMan

Not to discredit the 802D in anyway, I would love to own an 802D for my center channel as my HTM3S must now go - more on this for another time, but the bass delivered by the 800D is not what I would call extreme but supreme! LOL

Seriously, I have auditioned the 802D on countless occasions and as good as they are the 800D, that I have lived with for more than two months, delivers bass that is to me ( and a few of your compatriots I might add

) quite proficient.

Have you heard a pair of 800D?

I have and I acknowledge the improvement in the bottom end due to the larger drivers/cabinet. (Ain't that what I said?) Besides, such is also extremely room-dependant, so a subjective assessment would be dependant on that.

Kal

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