Oppo BDP 83 Blu Ray player

[littlesaint]

I don't think DVD-A is 100% finished yet. They may not be able to put the logo on it until it meets the specs of the license.

[Nolan B]

I don't think DVD-A is 100% finished yet. They may not be able to put the logo on it until it meets the specs of the license.

they wont put it on even when its done. DVD A is an official spec of the player now.

[Nolan B]

Here is my estimated shipp date

Order Verified. Est Ship Date: May 5 - 21, 2009


Pretty big variance IMO

[littlesaint]

I'm guessing they only have so much inventory available right now, so ship dates may need to be pushed depending on how many people order.

[Blindamood]

I ended up passing on my early order opportunity. Two reasons:

- I'm still happy with my Oppo DV-980H and Sony BDP-S550
- I want to let their firmware updates settle a bit more, primarily in terms of DVD-Audio support

Oh yeah...the timing also didn't help, as I had just purchased a new Cannondale all-carbon fiber road bicycle. :W

[impala454]

I went for it... figure I should do my part to help stimulate the economy

[1oldguy]

Wondering if given the choice between the oppo and the pioneer Elite top model...which would be considered the better between the two spec wise?

[littlesaint]

I went for it... figure I should do my part to help stimulate the economy

I think my wife is getting tired of hearing that one. :lol:

[Nolan B]

Wondering if given the choice between the oppo and the pioneer Elite top model...which would be considered the better between the two spec wise?

The oppo....without question.

[littlesaint]

Wondering if given the choice between the oppo and the pioneer Elite top model...which would be considered the better between the two spec wise?

The analog section of the Elite is outstanding and if you needed such, it probably pushes it ahead. The build of the Elite is going to be better. The Oppo is a universal player while the Elite does not offer SACD or DVD-A, so the analog and build superiority doesn't mean much if you want those. Both have very good video processing with ABT's VRS in the Oppo and Marvel's QDEO in the Elite. The Oppo is a more complete Blu-ray player offering full 2.0 support, so again if that's important to you, it comes out ahead.

For me, I want the added features of the Oppo, and don't need the analog section of the Elite. So even if they were free, I'd still take the Oppo. :T

[impala454]

Same here, the SACD/DVD-A is what pushed me over the top to get the Oppo and move my Panny BD30 to the bedroom.

Does anyone have a good recommendation to a newbie for SACD or DVD-A of say, some big band jazz?

[1oldguy]

The analog section of the Elite is outstanding and if you needed such, it probably pushes it ahead. The build of the Elite is going to be better. The Oppo is a universal player while the Elite does not offer SACD or DVD-A, so the analog and build superiority doesn't mean much if you want those. Both have very good video processing with ABT's VRS in the Oppo and Marvel's QDEO in the Elite. The Oppo is a more complete Blu-ray player offering full 2.0 support, so again if that's important to you, it comes out ahead.

For me, I want the added features of the Oppo, and don't need the analog section of the Elite. So even if they were free, I'd still take the Oppo. :T

Thank you for helping me out there.
The noob in me is new this,as I need to find out about DVD-A.
So I take it the Pioneer doesn't even have full 2.0 support?

[littlesaint]

The necessity of 2.0 depends on you. There really hasn't been much compelling material offered online, and it seems to be more fluff than necessity right now. I'm a geek at heart so I want to have every bit of technology offered. If you're just interested in what's in the disc, 2.0 may not be a big deal.

[1oldguy]

I do like as much extra content as possible.As for the elete Player I was under the impression it was 2.0?Of course I may be wrong.

[littlesaint]

It says BD-LIVE-ready, but I don't see an Ethernet port in the specs.

[1oldguy]

Maybe this might help us?

http://www.avrev.com/forum/blu-ray-players/2354-pioneer-elite-bdp-09fd-profile-2-0-blu-ray-player.html

It looks like it does and from the description it tends to lead one to think so?

[1oldguy]

After thinking about it the lack of DVD audio is a bummer.The scad I could live without.
I have had only 1 experience with the DVD audio format and was blown away even on my little system I've had for years.I can only inagine what it will be like once I'm up and running.
I see that Denon will soon be releasing a universal player.Listing at $4500.00.Wondering what the fine folks here make of this player?

[Nolan B]

After thinking about it the lack of DVD audio is a bummer.The scad I could live without.
I have had only 1 experience with the DVD audio format and was blown away even on my little system I've had for years.I can only inagine what it will be like once I'm up and running.
I see that Denon will soon be releasing a universal player.Listing at $4500.00.Wondering what the fine folks here make of this player?

Just getting started in DVD Audio today is very frustrating and expensive. discs are hard to fine and cost a ton. Couple of discs I have are over $100.

As fare as what I think about Denons new player? I believe Denon has crossed the line with adding snake oil to their products. They are trying to cash in on the outdated belief that there are major difference in source players. Sure with DVD there were differences, but when 1080p 24 is the ultimate end result which is native on the disk, and the audio is sent digitally nothing more is needed then a transport like the Oppo.

I believe as a digital transport using HDMI the Denon will perform no better then the Oppo. You have to ask yourself if the analog section is worth $4,000 to determine if the Denon has value IMO.

[1oldguy]

Thanks Vancouver

On the Canadian web site the same player lists at $6600.00 So I'm not going that extreme.I am new to this so the help is great:}
I think at the end of the day I will not being buying a ton of dvd audio so I am starting to think it's not such a deal breaker after all.
My dealer can get the Pioneer Player,and at $2200.00 is as far as I want to go.I would imagine it would be quite an upgrade from my nad (Model 5420) CD player.
As long as the pioneer can do all the movie codex's I think i could live with that.
Feel free to set me straight,it does help.

[wkhanna]

Does anyone have a good recommendation to a newbie for SACD or DVD-A of say, some big band jazz?

Gene Harris Quartet ~ 'Listen Up' is available in SACD
I have given this album to at least 10 different people, some with no experience with jazz at all. Everyone has told me it is now one of their favorite CD's.

I think Amazon has some used ones for ~$12, that is where I got mine.

[impala454]

Awesome thanks!

[littlesaint]

I'm not a huge jazz fan, but someone recommended Jazz at the Pawnshop, and it's one of the best SACDs I own.

[littlesaint]

Also, for DVD-A, The Beatles Love is a must.


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[audioqueso]

Also, for DVD-A, The Beatles Love is a must.


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+1!
Easily the most impressive remastered album I've ever heard! It's hard to believe these recordings were taken decades ago.

[Blindamood]

After thinking about it the lack of DVD audio is a bummer.The scad I could live without.
I have had only 1 experience with the DVD audio format and was blown away even on my little system I've had for years.I can only inagine what it will be like once I'm up and running.
I see that Denon will soon be releasing a universal player.Listing at $4500.00.Wondering what the fine folks here make of this player?

Just to be clear, the Oppo DOES now do DVD-Audio. Support was added in one of the firmware updates during the EAP, and refined a bit thru further updates. Apparently it is pretty good now, but it sounds like additional tweaking is still forthcoming.

[David Meek]

It says BD-LIVE-ready, but I don't see an Ethernet port in the specs.

Regarding the Pioneer BDP-09FD, yes, it's there. Lower left corner of the back panel - ethernet 100BASE-TX (100 Mbps). The "ready" nomenclature means that some of the earliest released models will need a firmware upgrade to go to full BD-Live status.

[btf1980]

My oppo player shipped this morning. :T

[littlesaint]

My oppo player shipped this morning. :T

Me too!

[Ken49r]

Quote from Stone:

I was extremely impressed by the Oppo’s analog audio output. SACDs sounded as good through the Oppo as they did through my longtime reference Lexicon RT-20. Blu-Ray movie soundtracks with the latest True-HD encoding actually sounded better through the Oppo’s analog outputs rather than through its digital connections routed directly into my Lexicon MC-12B HD (which does not support these latest formats.)

http://www.avguide.com/blog/the-oppo-blu-ray-player-and-the-spears-and-munsil-benchmark-disc-first-look

Steven Stone and Chris Martens over at AVguide give a :T on the analogue performance of the OPPO BDP-83.
Stone giving it high marks compared to the Lexicon RT-20 and Martens to the Sony DVP-9000es.

Not an official review but first impressions are looking real good on the analogue side of the BDP-83. Oppo asked that no official reviews be made until the public version is released.

Ken

[Hammie]

My oppo player shipped this morning. :T

Just wondering what day you placed your order. Just trying to get an idea of how far down the line my order is.

[btf1980]

Just wondering what day you placed your order. Just trying to get an idea of how far down the line my order is.

Placed my order on April 29th.

[1oldguy]

It's a shame they aren't sold here.Looks like a fantastic player.How much are they selling for?

[Nolan B]

It's a shame they aren't sold here.Looks like a fantastic player.How much are they selling for?

It is sold in canada...end of may. $599 CDN free shipping

http://www.solutionsav.ca/oppo.html

[1oldguy]

This is great.As much as I want the Pioneer Player,part of me feels like I'm getting worked over a little.
This is the best route to go I think.I do like a deal for the money spent and think this is it.
Thanks for the link Van.

[littlesaint]

Placed my order on April 29th.

Same here.

[audioqueso]

Whenever you guys get your players, can you try the old Oppo region hack for the other DVD players just to see if it works.
Press Setup. Press "9210" in quick succession. A new window will appear. Press "0". Press Setup to exit.
I would really love to buy the BDP-83 because the DVD upscaler is suppose to be really really good, but I have to wait until it's confirmed by a user that it can be hacked.

[Nolan B]

Whenever you guys get your players, can you try the old Oppo region hack for the other DVD players just to see if it works.
Press Setup. Press "9210" in quick succession. A new window will appear. Press "0". Press Setup to exit.
I would really love to buy the BDP-83 because the DVD upscaler is suppose to be really really good, but I have to wait until it's confirmed by a user that it can be hacked.

illl try it

[impala454]

Anyone have more updates on their shipping? I placed my order May 3rd and the status has not changed from

Order Verified. Est Ship Date: May 5 - 21, 2009

[HedgeHog]

Anyone have more updates on their shipping? I placed my order May 3rd and the status has not changed from

Ordered April 29th.

"Status : Order Shipped - May 8th."

Do the purchasers in the States get overnight shipping? I wonder if we're a week or more up here in Canuckland.

BTW, with DVD-Audio that has Video on the same disc, how does the player know which format to play? Same dealie with Hybrid SACD.

Cheers,
-H

[Nolan B]

Ordered April 29th.

"Status : Order Shipped - May 8th."

Do the purchasers in the States get overnight shipping? I wonder if we're a week or more up here in Canuckland.

BTW, with DVD-Audio that has Video on the same disc, how does the player know which format to play? Same dealie with Hybrid SACD.

Cheers,
-H

you can select the default in the menu. :T

[Ken49r]

Anyone have more updates on their shipping? I placed my order May 3rd and the status has not changed from

What was the deadline to place your order? Mine was May 2nd. It still let me order after the deadline but stated all orders placed before the deadline would be filled first.

I haven't seen this mentioned but I think the general public release of the Oppo BDP-83 may be $599.00 not the $499.00 the early adopters are getting. When I placed my order I noticed a list price of $599.00 grayed out above the $499.00 selling price.

Did anyone else notice?

[Ken49r]

Do the purchasers in the States get overnight shipping? I wonder if we're a week or more up here in Canuckland.Cheers,
-H

Yes overnight is available. I took fedex 3 day hoping it will come in 1 or 2 days for the 3 day price.

[impala454]

What was the deadline to place your order? Mine was May 2nd. It still let me order after the deadline but stated all orders placed before the deadline would be filled first.

I received my email on May 1, and it said I needed to order by May 5. I actually placed the order May 3.

I haven't seen this mentioned but I think the general public release of the Oppo BDP-83 may be $599.00 not the $499.00 the early adopters are getting. When I placed my order I noticed a list price of $599.00 grayed out above the $499.00 selling price.

Did anyone else notice?

Yes mine was exactly the same. Had a $599 grayed out and crossed out, with a $499 underneath.

[Martyn]

Oppo offered me US$499 if I ordered within about a week, instead of the forthcoming retail $599; orders to be filled in sequence as stocks allow.

I watched the excitement around the previous Oppo launches with interest and eventually bought a 980H for my daughter. The much-hyped video quailty was not as good as my old Denon DV3300 (poor shadow detail) - I even tried recalibrating my 50" plasma. I recently tried the "9210" hack to play a DVD I'd picked up in the UK - I could get the audio track but not the video. I haven't been ensnared by BR, so I think I'll look for a used pre-BR universal player instead.

[HedgeHog]

you can select the default in the menu. :T

Ah, thx. Time to RTFM. ops: