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  • wettou
    Ultra Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 3398

    #1

    Competition for OPPO BDP-83 Sony BDP-S470

    Sony's $200 BDP-S470 is company's first 3D-ready Blu-ray player

    And the flood gates are now officially open. Just hours after Panasonic introduced its newest 3D Blu-ray recorders and players, along comes Sony to brag about its first 3D-ready standalone deck.

    The BDP-S470, which is slated to ship later this month for $200, arrives with the ability to handle BD, DVD, CD and even SACD, with a 3D Blu-ray upgrade (via firmware update) planned for this summer.

    You'll also find BD-Live support, BRAVIA Internet Video, a USB socket for playing back media stored elsewhere, 1080p DVD upscaling and TrueHD / DTS-HD Master Audio decoding. If you were planning to snag a BDP-S570 BD player or one of the BDV-E770W / BDV-E570 Blu-ray Disc home theater systems, you'll be elated to know that those systems will also get a gratis 3D update in just a few months, with exact pricing and release details tucked down there in the source. Time to pick up a pair of 3D Gunnar Optiks, don'tcha think? Enjoy Blu-ray Disc™ movies in Full HD1080p and improve the quality of your DVDs to near HD with the 3D-ready BDP-S470 Blu-ray Disc player. Quick Start/Quick Load lets you play your favorite movies faster than ever, or you can connect to the internet and instantly access a wide variety of movies, TV shows, music and more. You can also turn your iPhone® or iPod touch® into a remote control by downloading a free app.

    BRAVIA® Internet Video
    Instantly stream a wide variety of movies, TV episodes, videos and music from a large selection of entertainment apps including: Netflix®, YouTube™, Slacker® - the list goes on and on.1

    Quick Start/Quick Load
    Begin enjoying your entertainment faster than ever.

    Wi-Fi® Adapter Ready

    Easily connect to your wireless broadband network with a USB Wi-Fi adapter. 5

    iPhone®/iPod touch® compatibility
    Turn your iPhone® or iPod touch® into a remote. With this free app you can operate and control your Blu-ray Disc Player as well as access detailed movie information like cast, director, genre, etc.2

    Cross Search
    Easily search select BRAVIA® Internet Video partners for entertainment or information related to the disc that you are enjoying.4


    USB Input
    Share your home videos or photos on the big screen or listen to your favorite music. Simply connect your digital camera, USB-enabled MP3 player, or USB storage device.7

    3D Blu-ray Disc™ Full HD 1080p playback
    Enjoy 3D Blu-ray Disc™ movies in Full HD 1080p8. Also supports standard Blu-ray Disc movies in high definition and upscales DVDs to near HD quality9.

    Gracenote™ Metadata Service
    Instantly gives you access to detailed information about the movies you are watching.3

    Share Personal Entertainment (DLNA®)
    Share music, videos and photos between compatible devices using your DLNA® home network.6


    Product Profile

    Support
    Product Specifications

    Audio Features
    • Dolby® : Yes & Dolby® TrueHD bitstream out over HDMI™ (V1.3)
    • Dolby® True HD Bitstream Output : Yes
    • LPCM : Yes (multi channel decoder): Yes (HDMI™ bitstream out)
    • MP3 Playback : Yes (BD-R/RE/DVD+RW/+R/-RW/-R/CD-R,RW)5
    • dts® HD Bitstream Output : Yes
    • dts® Output : Yes (dts®-HD bitstream out over HDMI™)

    General
    • BD-Live (Profile 2.0) : Yes

    Inputs and Outputs
    • Analog Audio Output(s) : 2 Channel: 1 (Rear)
    • Coaxial Audio Digital Output(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr) Output(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • Composite Video Output(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • Ethernet Connection(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • HDMI™ Connection Output(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • Optical Audio Output(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • USB Port(s) : 2 (1 Rear/ 1 Front)

    Video
    • Deep Color : Yes
    • Internet Video Streaming Decode : Yes
    • Percision Cinema HD Upscale : Yes
    • Video Digital-to-Analog Converter : Composite (12bit/148.5MHz) Y/C (12bit/54MHz)
    Network Features
    • BRAVIA® Internet Video : Yes
    • DLNA : Yes

    Convenience Features
    • A/V Sync : Yes
    • BRAVIA® Sync™ : Yes
    • Bit Rate Indicator (Video) : Yes
    • Child Lock : Yes
    • Easy Setup : Yes
    • Favorites : Yes
    • Parental Control : Yes
    • Quick Start Mode : Yes
    • Startup Screen : Yes
    • Wireless LAN : Ready (via USB)

    Function
    • Gracenote Metadata : Yes
    • PREV/NEXT : Yes
    • Play / Stop / Pause : Yes
    • Playback Memory : Yes
    • REV/ FWD : Yes
    • Repeat (All/ 1title) : Yes (All/1title/1Chapter/1Track)
    • SLOW Playback : Yes (Forward)
    • Screen Saver : Yes
    • XMB : Yes


    Weights and Measurements
    • Dimensions (Approx.) : 430 x 36 x 206mm
    • Weight (Approx.) : 2.0kg

    Power
    • Power Requirements (frequency) : 60Hz
    • Power Requirements (voltage) : 120V

    Video Features
    • 24p True Cinema™ Technology : Yes
    • AVC-HD : Yes (8cm/12cm)?DVD+R/RW/-R/-RW)
    • BD-R/RE Read Compatibility : Yes (BDMV & BDAV)
    • BD-ROM : Bonus View(Profile1.1); BD-Live(Profile2.0); BD-ROM (SL/DL)
    • CD (CD-DA) : Yes
    • CD-R/RW : Yes (CD-DA & Data)
    • DVD Playback : Yes
    • DVD+R Read Compatibility : Yes (DL) (+VR)
    • DVD+RW Read Compatibility : Yes (+VR) (8cm)
    • DVD-R Read Compatibility : Yes (DL) (VR) (VR with CPRM) (8cm)
    • DVD-RW Read Compatibility : Yes (VR) (VR with CPRM) (8cm)
    • JPEG Playback : Yes (BD-R/REDVD+RW/+R/-RW/-R/CD-R,RW)
    • Noise Reduction : Yes (BNR on DVDs Only)
    • PhotoTV HD : Yes
    • x.v.Color™ Technology : Yes

    Audio
    • Analog-to-Digital Converter : 192kHz/24bit

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    Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower
  • audioqueso
    Super Senior Member
    • Nov 2004
    • 1933

    #2
    Nice. But can it be made region free AND upscale like the Oppo? Hmmmm.
    Nice product though! I like the Bravia Internet option.
    B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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    • numberoneoppa
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 535

      #3
      If only 3D were actually a legitimate selling point...

      Oh well.
      -Josh

      That feeling when things are finally going right. Yeah, that one.

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      • Nolan B
        Super Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 1792

        #4
        Taking into account customer service I dont think a Sony is in anyway competition to an Oppo.

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        • wettou
          Ultra Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 3398

          #5
          Originally posted by Nolan B
          Taking into account customer service I dont think a Sony is in anyway competition to an Oppo.
          Yes I agree, Oppo beats them hand down
          Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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          • wettou
            Ultra Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 3398

            #6
            Krell first Blu-ray player, the Evolution 555 for $15,000!

            Krell just announced the introduction of the company's first Blu-ray player, the Evolution 555 for $15,000.

            Engineered to maximize performance from today's large format flat panel and front projectors, the Evolution 555 offers home entertainment enthusiasts unprecedented levels of performance, flexibility and upgradeability. Featuring the acclaimed 12-bit Sigma Design VXP technology, this superior engine delivers the world's highest quality video processing algorithms for noise reduction, de-interlacing, scaling, image enhancement and frame rate conversion. Incorporating industry-leading compression artifact reduction, the VXP recognizes object edges and removes mosquito noise to produce crisp, clear images. Detail enhancement seeks out underlying image information bringing unprecedented texture, sharpness and clarity to images. 3D and 2D noise reduction which adaptively applies both temporal and spatial noise reduction produces the clearest picture while maintaining fine image details.


            The Evolution 555 includes extensive aspect ratio control including a vertical stretch feature for systems employing 2.35:1 Constant Image Height display systems. Vertical stretch eliminates the black bars at the top and bottom of the image without adding distortion, or artifacts. It is most beneficial for those users of Cinema Scope screens and projectors with anamorphic lenses, as the processing is done in the digital domain.


            In addition to its ultimate quality video, Evolution 555 is a Profile 2.0 Ready (BD Live) Blu-ray/DVD player with 1GB of onboard memory. An SD card slot allows for expanded memory for BD Live and Bonus View movie titles, as well as playback options for photos and music files.

            Onboard Ethernet Port and Slot For Additional Wireless Card for Advanced Internet Connectivity and More
            For the highest level of connectivity to the world of exciting current-day as well as future entertainment enhancements, the Evolution 555 features an onboard Ethernet port that allows for Internet connectivity, firmware updates, BD Live interactivity and IP control. Additionally, an 802.11b/g/n wireless card can be added to perform the same functions. This network capability also provides access to online streaming and media files resident on a home network.


            Dual, assignable, HDMI outputs are provided with the option of full audio and video output to 2 systems, or dedicate one HDMI for audio, the other for video - this option promotes a high level of jitter reduction for both signal paths.

            Upgradeable to HDMI 1.4
            The Evolution 555 is fully HDMI 1.3 compliant but with a direct fix on the future, the Evolution 555 includes an upgrade path to the future that makes it quite literally the most advanced and "future-ready" source component. Already equipped with an HDMI 1.4 transmitter, the Sigma VXP video processor is located on a plug-in card for in-field upgrade to HDMI 1.4 with full support for 3D, 4K x 2K Resolution Support, and HDMI Ethernet Channel.

            Sound Quality
            For the ultimate in audio performance, the Evolution 555 features the ESS Technology 32-bit Sabre Reference DACs connected to Krell differential Krell Evolution CAST analog circuitry. CAST™, which is short for Current Audio Signal Transmission, is a proprietary method of sending audio signals between components in the current domain. Krell components connected in Evolution CAST act together as an electrically unified whole, free from the deleterious effects normally imposed by connecting cables. Balanced outputs and single ended outputs are also included for use with conventional preamplifiers.

            "Our new Blu-ray player will continue the Krell tradition of defining the ultimate standard for a product category," said Bill McKiegan, Vice President of U.S. Sales and Marketing. "A ground-up Krell design, the new player will feature reference level audio and video performance coupled with renowned Krell build-quality
            Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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            • Alloroc
              Super Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 2580

              #7
              The new Cambridge Audio Azur 650BD is more credible competition I reckon. Albeit that they're pretty much the same OEM'd machine from MediaTek.

              Nice machine though.



              http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/set_te...ry.php?PID=492
              Vincent.

              I don't want the world. I just want your half.

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              • Ovation
                Super Senior Member
                • Sep 2004
                • 2204

                #8
                At its price point and with SACD capability, the Sony is still an interesting player to me in a secondary system. But I'd go with an Oppo for the main HT before the Sony.

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                • wettou
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 3398

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wettou
                  Krell just announced the introduction of the company's first Blu-ray player, the Evolution 555 for $15,000.
                  Along with that I will get a
                  Wireworld's Platinum Starlight HDMI cable is only $1,000, better than your HDMI cable

                  You idiot. Where did you buy those cables? Walmart? You probably think you're getting the whole 1080p, don't you! Boy, you couldn't be more wrong. What the big box doesn't want you to know, with their cheap-ass $150 cables is that there are, um, waves and some, uh... electromagnetic spectrats. And they eat your pixels! Yeah, that's right! Pixel-eating EM spectrats! Not even making this stuff up. How much did you spend on that TV? $1,000? You did buy that $1,800 power cable from Furutech, right? Well, don't you think you should spend at least that much on the all-important cables that are going to funnel the dynamic 1080p transmissions from your Blu-ray player to your TV? Here, try this Platinum Starlight HDMI cable from Wireworld. It has a patent-pending DNA Helix conductor design formed by the gods themselves out of 24 solid silver conductors. Hell, $1,000 is probably a bargain for one of these one meter cables. Your eyes are worth it, after all. You're welcome."

                  Pathetic
                  Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                  • HedgeHog
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 241

                    #10
                    EngadgetHD has a vid of the S570 loading a BD vs the PS3 Slim. Seems to boot mega fast. And gotta love the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad? freebie remote app!

                    Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO-151FD / Oppo BDP-105 / Apple TV G2 / QNAP Turbo NAS TS-210
                    Classe Audio SSP-800 / Classe Audio CA-M400 (x2) + CA-5200
                    B&W 802D2 / B&W HTM2D2 / B&W CCM-818 / JL Audio Fathom 113
                    Richard Gray Substation 240V + 1200 Custom / ESD Cable Isolators Mk II.
                    Clear Day Double Shotgun Spkr Cable / White Zombie Audio ZeroPointZero Silver XLR / LessLoss DFPC Original

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                    • Ovation
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 2204

                      #11
                      I think the s570 is destined for my living room.

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                      • wettou
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 3398

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                        EngadgetHD has a vid of the S570 loading a BD vs the PS3 Slim. Seems to boot mega fast. And gotta love the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad? freebie remote app!

                        http://hd.engadget.com/2010/02/16/so...lu-ray-player/
                        Yes es sign me up as well, will it play SACDs??
                        Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                        • HedgeHog
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 241

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wettou
                          Yes es sign me up as well, will it play SACDs??
                          According to Sony, all 2010 models play SACD. S570 has built-in wifi, Netflix, and DLNA support. S770 will do 3D.

                          However, I'd be mega happy if one can do an iPhone remote app for the Oppo. :T
                          Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO-151FD / Oppo BDP-105 / Apple TV G2 / QNAP Turbo NAS TS-210
                          Classe Audio SSP-800 / Classe Audio CA-M400 (x2) + CA-5200
                          B&W 802D2 / B&W HTM2D2 / B&W CCM-818 / JL Audio Fathom 113
                          Richard Gray Substation 240V + 1200 Custom / ESD Cable Isolators Mk II.
                          Clear Day Double Shotgun Spkr Cable / White Zombie Audio ZeroPointZero Silver XLR / LessLoss DFPC Original

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