Oppo BDP 83 Blu Ray player

[georgev]

Just seen a non working prototype model on the web shown at Cedia.
Looks very promising.
Any further info on it?
If their previous models are anything to go by, it should be very good. Got a 983 and the HM 31 and have been so pleased with them.

[bigburner]

Audioholics is reporting that the BDP-83 will have the same DVDO processing chipset as found in the new DVDO Edge (VRS by Anchor Bay). It will have 7.1 analogue outputs, HDMI 1.3 (with support for native decoding for DTS HD and Dolby Digital Plus/TrueHD), will upscale DVDs to 1080p and will support 24p output. Based on the chassis markings, BD Live 2.0 support (via 10/100 Mbps Ethernet) is included out of the box and USB connectivity is provided for photos and music playback. Dedicated analogue stereo outputs are also present and the unit has IR control in/out connections ("for Oppo approved connections only"). No RS-232C control is present. Perhaps most surprising (in a pleasant way) is SACD support as well as compatibility with HDCD's. Coaxial & S/PDIF outputs are present for legacy audio, including Dolby Digital and DTS.

Nigel.

[Ovation]

What about DVD-A? If it has that, and is region-free with SD DVD (via hack, I guess), then it could replace three things in my rack and allow me to spread some gear around the house for sound systems.

[George Bellefontaine]

There's talk about this unit elsewhere. Everyone is trying to guess how it will be priced and most seem to think it will come in around $700-$800 mark. Looks like a killer, though.

[Ovation]

If if goes for that much, though, it will face problems. Oppo makes KILLER players at their current price point, but if they move to double their current most expensive price, the exceptional value for which they are famous will be hard to maintain in the eyes of consumers.

[George Bellefontaine]

If if goes for that much, though, it will face problems. Oppo makes KILLER players at their current price point, but if they move to double their current most expensive price, the exceptional value for which they are famous will be hard to maintain in the eyes of consumers.

I agree, but if you go by the price of their top of the line dvd player I doubt if their Blu-ray will be cheap, and does look like it is loaded. I would hope for something around the $500 mark, but that's probably wishful thinking. OTOH, they may also bring out a player with fewer fewatures at a lower price point.

[Hdale85]

It's supposed to play SACD, DVD-A, DVD, Blu-Ray and so on. From what I saw speculated prices are between 599 and 699.

[Ovation]

Under 700$ will be an important psychological goal for the brand. Unfortunately, the diminished value of the US dollar will not help them meet that target. Doing all that it is supposed to do, with the quality for which they are known (and deservedly so), 600$ is not unreasonable with the current value of the US dollar (even if it will make some people do a double take). But if they break the 700$ or 800$ barrier, it will not be the runaway success for them that many anticipate.

[Gump]

when?

[Nolan B]

pics

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/06/cediacrunch-hands-on-oppo-bdp-83-blu-ray-player/

[wettou]

OPPO BD-83 Blu Ray Player

I sent an email to Oppo and they are not talking, they are saying that this a prototype expect it in the first half of 2009 but no specs and no price yet as it is still in development.

They just want to tell the world they are coming!:T

[Chris D]

Yes, this was a hot discussion topic Friday night at the party. It is supposed to be a TRULY universal player, capable of CD, DVD, SACD, DVD-A, and BD.

(sorry HD-DVD fans, yes, that format is dead)

Oppo president was at the party. Didn't confirm anything, but didn't deny it, either.

[regnaD kciN]

Late update: The price is to be between $499 and $599, and it will include both SACD and DVD-A decoding on-board.

[JürgenW]

Perhaps it's good to quote customer service:

'Thank you for signing up to receive information about our upcoming OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray Disc Player. We appreciate your interest, and would like to update you on the current development status of this exciting new product.

One of the major design goals for the BDP-83 is to deliver first-class video quality for both Blu-ray and DVD. We based and expanded upon our top-of-the-line DV-983H up-converting DVD player and fully utilize the unparalleled performance of the VRS by Anchor Bay video processing solution. You can expect all the high-end video features including Source Direct for DVD and Blu-ray, high definition HDMI scaling, Edge and Detail Enhancement options, and 1080p24Hz output for both Blu-ray and DVD.

We did not stop at just video performance. We further refined the audio stage, including the addition of discrete stereo outputs and increasing the power and efficiency of the power supply. For SACD playback, the BDP-83 supports direct DSD over HDMI and DSD-to-analog without any PCM conversion, a very unique feature.

With the BDP-83, we intend to release a full-featured universal Blu-ray Disc player that supports BD Profile 2.0 (BD-Live), DVD, SACD, DVD-Audio, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD Master Audio. As of this writing, the BDP-83 supports BD Profile 1.1 (BONUSVIEW), DVD-Video, SACD, and bitstreaming of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. Progress is being made on a daily basis as our engineers work diligently around the clock to further enable DVD-Audio, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio onboard decoding, and BD Profile 2.0.

The BDP-83 is currently undergoing an extensive and thorough Beta Test Program. We greatly appreciate all the feedback from our beta testers, as without their hard work and extraordinary attention to detail, the BDP-83 would not be the high quality product that our customers have come to expect from us.

As many of our customers eagerly anticipate the release of the BDP83, we are contemplating a "BDP-83 Early Adoption Program" in late December or early January. This program will make available a limited number of units so you can purchase and experience the current implementation of the BDP-83's feature set, with the ability to download firmware as new features become available. The estimated price for the BDP-83 is around $499 to $599.

OPPO Digital is a consumer-oriented company that listens carefully to customer opinions and values their feedback. If it were not for our customers' feedback and support, OPPO would not be where we are today. At OPPO we strive to provide our customers with quality products reinforced by exceptional customer service.

Please email to BDP-83@oppodigital.com if you have any questions and comments, or simply reply to this email.'

[KeithM]

I'll be buying on if/when my BH200 dies. There's something about it that makes it look a little lackluster, but maybe it's just the pictures.

[sonoma john]

Oppo has come into the marketplace with top notch equipment at a very good price. The groundwork has been layed and they are in a position to take a large slice of the disc playing market. Their machine will play every kind of disc including SACD and they have that high quality video chip that will blow away the competition in the $400+ market. Quality and value, hard to beat that....

[artv4]

how would you compare the oppo with the ps3?

[littlesaint]

how would you compare the oppo with the ps3?

Unless someone here is a beta-tester, it's hard to compare because the Oppo is not out yet. Looking at the Oppo's specs its should be better at de-interlacing/scaling DVDs, plus offers DVD-A and SACD which is lacking in the newer PS3 models. It does not play PS3 games which at this stage in the Blu-ray market is the PS3s only real advantage. There are offerings from Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung which all equal or best the PS3s BD capabilities at a lower cost. With Panasonic's recent discontinuing of BD35 (and soon BD55) production, there should be some great deals on these units in the near future.

[wettou]

Unless someone here is a beta-tester, it's hard to compare because the Oppo is not out yet. Looking at the Oppo's specs its should be better at de-interlacing/scaling DVDs, plus offers DVD-A and SACD which is lacking in the newer PS3 models. It does not play PS3 games which at this stage in the Blu-ray market is the PS3s only real advantage. There are offerings from Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung which all equal or best the PS3s BD capabilities at a lower cost. With Panasonic's recent discontinuing of BD35 (and soon BD55) production, there should be some great deals on these units in the near future.

Also it offers analog 7.1 outputs. But what takes it beyond other players are the SACD and DVD-Audio logos on there. Only Denon $4000 Blu-ray player can handle both of those formats as well as BD, DVD and CD.

I bought my BD35 for $200 plus two free Blu Ray = $150 :T

[aud19]

Dang!

[littlesaint]

Early Adoption Program starting

From OPPO:

We would like to thank you for the tremendous feedback that we have received from the community in response to our first BDP-83 Blu-ray player notification update. There were many great comments, suggestions and concerns which we will try to address in the release of the BDP-83. In particular, we would like to address the Early Adoption Program.

We have decided to take a democratic, by-the-people approach to the implementation of the Early Adoption Program. For the initial batch we will randomly choose 50 customers to participate in the Early Adoption Program. These 50 customers will have the opportunity to purchase the BDP-83 for $499 before the official release. After using the player for about a week, they will be required to vote on whether the program should be expanded or suspended based on end-user experiences. If a supermajority (at least 70%) votes in favor of expanding the program, we will expand the Early Adoption Program by another 100 randomly chosen customers. The player will be shipped with a pre-production firmware version. Firmware updates will be available from time to time.

The initial 50 Early Adoption Customers will be chosen no later than February 25th using the random number generator at random.org. After being contacted by us, the customer must place the order no later than 3pm February 27th Pacific Time; otherwise the opportunity to participate will be passed on to another customer. A simple "Yes" or "No" vote on whether to expand the program needs to be cast no later than March 15th.

We would also like to take this time to update you on the status of BDP-83 developments. The last two months have been very fruitful, as the player now supports BD-Live (Profile 2.0) and can internally decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio formats. DVD-Audio has yet to be implemented through firmware, but we are working diligently on this feature. A preliminary features and specifications list will be available on our web site on Tuesday March 3rd.

[blk100rr]

I don't post much..... but I can't wait for this universal player. I hope it is as good as I want it to be

[Blindamood]

Yeah, I got the Oppo email yesterday, and frankly I'm not quite sure what to think about the early adopter program. You're basically paying full price ($499) to do further testing on a product that's not quite finished. The good news is that you have 30 days after the product officially releases to return it for a full refund. Also, Oppo has a good reputation for fixing bugs and releasing firmware updates...I've been very happy with my DV-980H.

The thing that would really hold me back (if I was even selected) is that DVD-Audio is still not promised to happen. The only way I'd update at this point is if I could be certain of getting a truly 'universal' player.

[Blindamood]

OK, I'm not really superstitious, but I just needed to post one more time to get to #667...

[David Meek]

Okay, I'm impressed. $499 for that package? Wow. It will be most interesting to see how the BDP-83 stacks up actual competition.

[Nolan B]

Okay, I'm impressed. $499 for that package? Wow. It will be most interesting to see how the BDP-83 stacks up actual competition.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ay-player.html

http://www.prillaman.net/oppobdp83_review.html

the best thing about the new Oppo is that it not only meets the performance of players that are 2k and 4k, but also seems like it will beat them.

Boy, Denon must sure be hopping their future customers dont use the internet.

[HedgeHog]

I still want this product but shame that by the time it gets up here, it'll be close to $1K.

[audioqueso]

Man... new electronics are a pain. Now that I'm ready to buy a bunch of toys, nothing that I want is out yet. ha ha I'll definitely be buying this as soon as it starts to sell.

[Armbender]

I recentley just purchased the Pioneer BluRay 51fd and am a little disappointed with it thus far. I think I will be selling and waiting for the Oppo to come out...

[Armbender]

any news on a release date for the Oppo yet...im not as patient as i thought i could be..lol

[Blindamood]

any news on a release date for the Oppo yet...im not as patient as i thought i could be..lol

The first 50 selected for the EAP (early adopter program) already have theirs. Apparently there will be a second (of 100) who will be getting theirs soon. After that I'm not sure.

[wettou]

the best thing about the new Oppo is that it not only meets the performance of players that are 2k and 4k, but also seems like it will beat them. Boy, Denon must sure be hopping their future customers dont use the internet.

PEOPLE who buy Denon want the brand and the look, Oppo is not pushed by many companies but Oppo, They also don't pay the reviewers unlike Denon!

OPPO RULES

[audioqueso]

PEOPLE who buy Denon want the brand and the look, Oppo is not pushed by many companies but Oppo, They also don't pay the reviewers unlike Denon!

OPPO RULES

That kinda applies to McIntosh, Krell, Classe, AND ANY TUBE PLAYER, etc, etc... doesn't it? ha ha :B

But true, have you ever read a magazine review about a Denon and read that they dismissed it?

[Hdale85]

But true, have you ever read a magazine review about a Denon and read that they dismissed it?

This also applies to companies like Mcintosh, Krell, Classe, even Rotel in some instances. Places like 3 moons (or whatever it is) drives me nuts I have never seen a negative review from that place!

[Ken49r]

Does anyone know if the tray depth on the Oppo 83 is deeper than the 980?

The only problem I have with the 980 is the tray depth is the same size as a disc making it hard for me to put a disc in or remove it without the information side making contact against the tray.

[Blindamood]

The first 50 selected for the EAP (early adopter program) already have theirs. Apparently there will be a second (of 100) who will be getting theirs soon. After that I'm not sure.

The second round of the EAP is supposed to happen today...and it's been expanded to 300, rather than the previously-announced 100. Be sure to check your email if you signed up for notifications from Oppo!

[audioqueso]

So... from what I'm reading on the official EAP Thread on AVS, this unit can't be change to region-free even for standard DVDs. That sucks. This is an automatically disqualification for me as I have about 100-200 DVDs from Region 2. That sucks.

I hope this changes.

[JürgenW]

I agree.

For me it's the other way round (when the European version of this player will arrive).

Well we can let Oppo know what we want, so let's go.

[JürgenW]

And see this site:

http://www.custom-ht.com/oppo.html

for modifications, making it region-free among them.

[audioqueso]

From what Oppo is stating, they can't because they have to follow the Blu-Ray Association rules if they want to sell their product as a blu-ray player.

[planitismetal]

So... from what I'm reading on the official EAP Thread on AVS, this unit can't be change to region-free even for standard DVDs. That sucks. This is an automatically disqualification for me as I have about 100-200 DVDs from Region 2. That sucks.

I hope this changes.

This is the only thing I cannot understand with SONY!!!!! Why is this region code??? Why we cannot buy dvd or bd from all over the planet and play??? WHAT IS THIS SHIT??? sorry for the words.....

But OPPO, can leave a way for "hacking" the code... :W :W

[littlesaint]

Region codes are a mandate of the production companies, more specifically their distribution arms. DVDs are released with quasi-exclusive regional distribution rights. One company might distribute a film in the US, and another in Europe, plus they are often released at different times. The region codes ensure this exclusivity is maintained.

[wettou]

And see this site: http://www.custom-ht.com/oppo.html
for modifications, making it region-free among them.

Cool yes :T Studios are greedy not only do they want to sell you the same movie multiple times they want to make sure you can't leave your country!!

[audioqueso]

Cool yes :T Studios are greedy not only do they want to sell you the same movie multiple times they want to make sure you can't leave your country!!

It's just business. Pirating is too big. It makes sense to separate the regions. I, personally, don't like it cause I have DVDs from both region, but oh well, it's business.

[JürgenW]

It's just business. Pirating is too big. It makes sense to separate the regions. I, personally, don't like it cause I have DVDs from both region, but oh well, it's business.

I don't understand why regioncodes should help against pirating. Thought it would be the other way round.