It's time for a Statement announcing my latest project..

[mikela]

Hi everyone,

I just completed most of the cuts for my LCR Sealed Statements yesterday. I will probably start my own thread if that is appropriate. However, I have a question: How much allowance should one make for the foam gasket material (from PE) in the speaker flange recess?

Mike

[Jim Holtz]

I've decided to rebuild my statements. mainly because the finish on the current ones turned out to be extremely shabby. this time i'm making them sealed and also will use pvc tubes for the tangband instead of the square tunnel. i'd like to know if this would be better- 6 inch tube with 1 inch liner all around so that the hole is 4 inches matching the tangband and giving it unrestricted air flow? seems like the pvc would be too close to the dayton but just throwing the question out there also, i'd like to upgrade the crossovers if possible. are there any better components that won't shoot a hole thru my wallet? oh and any chance that there could be a version that would use tangband bamboo cones? im a sucker for paper cone drivers... love their gentle sound.

Hi Coconutout,

Curt and I originally talked about the possibility of using 5" PVC as the mid tunnels. I couldn't find any locally that didn't cost a fortune so I went with MDF. Curt will have to respond on the 6" tubing. You might send Curt an email. He's a busy guy and isn't able to follow the forum as closely as I.

Crossover upgrades should really only be in the resistor or cap brands. Inductors should stay the same since they're based on DCR values. Go with Mills resistors. They're the best, IMHO. Caps are a pick your flavor. I think the Jantzen are darn nice sounding caps. However Clarity or Sonicaps would be an alternative that are a little more reasonably priced than Mundorf, Audiocap etc.

There isn't a chance that I'll be developing a paper cone version of the Statements. I'm hooked on the Titanium cones. Paper cones would no longer be a Statement. Perhaps a "Comment"? :rofl:

Jim

[Jim Holtz]

Hi everyone,

I just completed most of the cuts for my LCR Sealed Statements yesterday. I will probably start my own thread if that is appropriate. However, I have a question: How much allowance should one make for the foam gasket material (from PE) in the speaker flange recess?

Mike

Hi Mike,

Yes, Thomas does prefer separate build threads.

I struggle to get drivers perfectly flush so I'm not the best one to answer plus I've not used PE's gasket tape but I'd guess 1/32" would probably catch it after it's compressed.

We're looking forward to seeing pictures!

Jim

[Coconutout]

hm. that is a bummer about the pvc. i can't imagine it being expensive at all but from googling it looks like it is also rarely available. i'm gonna have to go with sonotube, then. i found a place in downtown LA where the guy just gives you bunch of leftovers. i got 6" tube for free last time for my sonosub. the place is 'Atlas Construction Supply' if anyone's interested. i guess id have to make a ring out of mdf to fit the tube thru and glue that to the panel... seems like it's already becoming more work than square tunnels. would there be a noticeable SQ increase from this? i think i'm leaning toward clarity but probably wont have enough munah to replace all of them. which ones do you think i should replace to get the most benefit? thanks again, jim.

[Jim Holtz]

Coconutout,

Let me clarify, 6" PVC is cheap and readily available but there was a concern about it being too large to accomplish the transmission tunnel effect we were trying to achieve. 5" was perfect but not easily available. I did find it at a local supply house for $5 a foot with a 20' minimum. I didn't want to spend $100 for something that I could easily construct from scrap MDF.

If you can find 5", go for it. I'd check with Curt before I went with 6" though to see what his current thoughts are. You'll also have to add addittional bracing to replace the stiffness the MDF tunnel assemblies provide to the enclosure.

HTH

Jim

[KorbenDallas]

spikes vs. rubber feet

Was the primary reason spikes were used with the Statements to get the tweeter height to ear level? Madisound has more speaker spike kits than I have found at PE, and I could live with a 1/4" diameter spike through my carpet rather than a huge hole the other spikes would create.

Searching the forum I have found where several owners of B&W speakers say the spikes have tightened up their bass and they also have more clarity in the upper register as well. Was this a secondary intention to using spikes with the Statement design?

[Curt C]

Was the primary reason spikes were used with the Statements to get the tweeter height to ear level? Madisound has more speaker spike kits than I have found at PE, and I could live with a 1/4" diameter spike through my carpet rather than a huge hole the other spikes would create.

Searching the forum I have found where several owners of B&W speakers say the spikes have tightened up their bass and they also have more clarity in the upper register as well. Was this a secondary intention to using spikes with the Statement design?

Spikes were implemented into the original design, and tweeter positioning was determined assuming the spikes were in place. Also, the spikes provide plenty of breathing room for the down firing port.

Spikes can be a mixed blessing, especially those with hardwood floors, etc. Certainly I see no reason why one couldn't use something a little less pointy in that instance. After all these big boys have plenty of mass. Jim used regular hex head bolts for the original prototypes, and I didn't notice any bass issues at that time.

The Uber-Exclamations! rest on 3 hard rubber casters. Maybe this is a big audiophile no-no, but it sure makes it easier to move them around. -Important for us old farts....

C

[mlammert]

Question on Front Baffle Shape

Hey guys,

I am still in the whole design process of my Statements build and had a question on baffle shape and size...

I know (at least I think I know) that the width of the front baffle should not be changed due to certain values of the crossover being based on the width of the front baffle and the driver's placement on the baffle...

However, my question is, keeping the crossover as is, can the edges and shape of the front baffle be changed if the width is kept the same???

Example:
Could I create a font baffle that like this:

http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Soup_Sandwich.html

I am thinking more like the angled corner edges seen in the example above...

If the answer is no, that is cool and I will proceed with a rectangular front baffle...

If the answer is yes, can someone try and describe the cautions I should take???

Thanks as always,
Mark

[Jim Holtz]

Hey guys,

I am still in the whole design process of my Statements build and had a question on baffle shape and size...

I know (at least I think I know) that the width of the front baffle should not be changed due to certain values of the crossover being based on the width of the front baffle and the driver's placement on the baffle...

However, my question is, keeping the crossover as is, can the edges and shape of the front baffle be changed if the width is kept the same???

Example:
Could I create a font baffle that like this:

http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Soup_Sandwich.html

I am thinking more like the angled corner edges seen in the example above...

If the answer is no, that is cool and I will proceed with a rectangular front baffle...

If the answer is yes, can someone try and describe the cautions I should take???

Thanks as always,
Mark

Hi Mark,

I'm going to defer this question to Curt. I'm not sure what effect the sculptured front baffle would have on the crossover. You might shoot Curt an email.

Jim

[Curt C]

And the answer is...

Hey guys,

I am still in the whole design process of my Statements build and had a question on baffle shape and size...

I know (at least I think I know) that the width of the front baffle should not be changed due to certain values of the crossover being based on the width of the front baffle and the driver's placement on the baffle...

However, my question is, keeping the crossover as is, can the edges and shape of the front baffle be changed if the width is kept the same???

Example:
Could I create a font baffle that like this:

http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Soup_Sandwich.html

I am thinking more like the angled corner edges seen in the example above...

If the answer is no, that is cool and I will proceed with a rectangular front baffle...

If the answer is yes, can someone try and describe the cautions I should take???

Thanks as always,
Mark

Where are you going to put the bevels? In the corners adjacent to the woofers should be no problem. Anywhere near the mids and ribbon, as in the example below, be prepared to do some crossover tweaking.

C

http://www.thesoundstation.com/manufacturers/montana/models/images/kas2.4.jpg

[mlammert]

In the corners adjacent to the woofers should be no problem. Anywhere near the mids and ribbon, as in the example below, be prepared to do some crossover tweaking.

Thanks Curt!!!

That was exactly the kind of guidance I was looking for...

Mark

[NateTTU]

I just bought a new house and moved in last weekend. One of the first tasks was to setup the speakers in the living room to make a temporary theater room. As of now, other than finish, all the 5 speakers are completed. I really do like these speakers and coming from cheap pc speakers to a full theater quality system is truly a step up.

However, I'm a little worried about my center channel. It seems, at times, that it really does struggle to keep up with the rest of the system. I'm going to be testing this out further but the other statements and mini statements seem to be doing fine. Just as a reference here is what I was playing:
Xbox 360
Emotiva Combo at lvl 48
Full statements lineup
War of the Worlds (std dvd on dts)
I would say the sound level was moderately loud though not too loud. To me the center just sounded like it was hurting at this level. If anyone could recreate this situation let me know what you think. Another instance I thought the center really wasn't working properly was at the end of the Transformers movie, the secretary of defenses' voice sounded vary harsh (slight lisp but sounded highly over exaggerated). I’m really curious if the W4 driver is bad.

On another note, I have to say that the Statements really do shine during music and have to ask for some recommendations on good quality audio recordings. I wasn’t very big into music listening before but I found myself just listening to some audio on the Statements for a couple of hours the other day and I really enjoyed the sound.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nate

[impala454]

Maybe try hooking up the center to a different amp as a L/R just to check it out?

[Jim Holtz]

I just bought a new house and moved in last weekend. One of the first tasks was to setup the speakers in the living room to make a temporary theater room. As of now, other than finish, all the 5 speakers are completed. I really do like these speakers and coming from cheap pc speakers to a full theater quality system is truly a step up.

However, I'm a little worried about my center channel. It seems, at times, that it really does struggle to keep up with the rest of the system. I'm going to be testing this out further but the other statements and mini statements seem to be doing fine. Just as a reference here is what I was playing:
Xbox 360
Emotiva Combo at lvl 48
Full statements lineup
War of the Worlds (std dvd on dts)
I would say the sound level was moderately loud though not too loud. To me the center just sounded like it was hurting at this level. If anyone could recreate this situation let me know what you think. Another instance I thought the center really wasn't working properly was at the end of the Transformers movie, the secretary of defenses' voice sounded vary harsh (slight lisp but sounded highly over exaggerated). I’m really curious if the W4 driver is bad.

On another note, I have to say that the Statements really do shine during music and have to ask for some recommendations on good quality audio recordings. I wasn’t very big into music listening before but I found myself just listening to some audio on the Statements for a couple of hours the other day and I really enjoyed the sound.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nate

Hi Nate,

The center should be able to reach about 110 db with higher peaks. Do you have a DB meter that you can see exactly how loud you are playing the center? I also assume you've balanced all of the speakers including the center using a test tone and a db meter. If not, that's the 1st thing to do.

If everything checks out at this point, the next step is to make sure the crossover is wired correctly. Then comes the possibility of a defective driver. This is really a process of elimination to find out what's not working as designed.

I've had mine really cranked up with no problem. Right now I have my line arrays back as mains while I'm trying to sell them and the Statements center easily keeps up with them.

Jim

[KorbenDallas]

What is the assembled weight of the ported version of the Statements? Someone posted the sealed versions were about 107lbs, but they were built without the base.

[Ray Collins]

FredT,
How about an update on your statements...I assume they are fully broken-in by now?

Ray

[FredT]

FredT,
How about an update on your statements...I assume they are fully broken-in by now?
Ray

They are completely broken in. The latest pair are positioned a bit further from the back wall than the first because both pair seemed to overload the room with very low bass. The front baffles are 46" from the back wall, which is working very well for me. The added bracing has eliminated even a hint of noise in the side panels. I suspect my lining the interior with half inch plywood was overkill, but I would recommend everybody who builds a pair use the full window frame braces behind each woofer (with a semi circular cutout to accommodate the woofer) instead of the 5X10.

Now here's an interesting story. Saturday I hosted the Houston Audio Society's monthly meeting, and one exercise was comparing different tweeter caps. I had installed a rotary switch that enabled me to quickly select from the following: a NP electrolytic, a Jantzen Cross Cap, a Clarity SA, and a Jantzen Z-Superior. The price range of these caps was from about 50 cents to twenty dollars. I had the group listen to the different caps without knowing which was in the circuit. The consensus was that there wasn't much difference, and the Jantzen Cross Cap was preferred by most. That's the one that's now wired permanently into the crossover. Don't mean to start that pointless "do caps make a difference?" arguement; just reporting what we heard.

I basically agree with everything Jim has said about the Statements. The one thing I believe he has understated is the power of the bass at the lowerst frequencies. For anybody is in my situation, where there's no space for a large subwoofer in the room, the Statements are one of the few speakers I've head that does powerful bass down to about 30hz. The Dorian Records "Pictures at an Exhibition" (transcribed for and played on a very large pipe organ) rattles the pictures on a wall at the far end of the kitchen, about 30 feet away. Many years ago I worked for a pipe organ builder, and pipe organ music through the statements is as real as it gets without having the actual 16' low C pipes in your room. ;x(

I prefer the sound of the midranges with some stuffing in the transmission lines. I'm currently using a 4"X5" piece of household fiberglass insulation that's abut 10" long in each transmission line.

The only downside to the Statements as a DIY project is that they're labor- intensive. The combination of unusual vertical braces, the midrange transmission lines, and a separate base make for a lot of work. This is the last pair I plan to build, so sorry to all you other Houston Audio Society members who, after hearing them, inquired about my building a pair for you.

[shame302]

soooo......i think im ready to mock the x overs up. id really like to post a pick up of them when they are done. hopefully any mistakes could be pointed out. i was wondering though, as to what wire should be used inside of the speaker itself. i was planning on buying blujeans Belden 5000UE 12 awg wire as my speaker wire (if this gets the knod from the gurus). should i just use this on the internal wiring as well? im really exited and its going to be hard to take my time. my amp arrived today. the ribbons arrived yesterday and the boxes are 70%. they still need the drivers cut out of the front baffles and they need the sound dampening.

[FredT]

i was wondering though, as to what wire should be used inside of the speaker itself. i was planning on buying blujeans Belden 5000UE 12 awg wire as my speaker wire (if this gets the knod from the gurus). should i just use this on the internal wiring as well?

I first used the Belden 12ga 5000UE as speaker cables and heard a clearly audible improvement in resolution versus the generic 16ga Wal Mart speaker cable I had been using before. I now use the Belden as the internal wire in all my speakers. Haven't done any comparisons to other internal wire, but given the affordability of the Belden it's an easy choice for me. :T

[Jim Holtz]

They are completely broken in. The latest pair are positioned a bit further from the back wall than the first because both pair seemed to overload the room with very low bass. The front baffles are 46" from the back wall, which is working very well for me. The added bracing has eliminated even a hint of noise in the side panels. I suspect my lining the interior with half inch plywood was overkill, but I would recommend everybody who builds a pair use the full window frame braces behind each woofer (with a semi circular cutout to accommodate the woofer) instead of the 5X10.

Now here's an interesting story. Saturday I hosted the Houston Audio Society's monthly meeting, and one exercise was comparing different tweeter caps. I had installed a rotary switch that enabled me to quickly select from the following: a NP electrolytic, a Jantzen Cross Cap, a Clarity SA, and a Jantzen Z-Superior. The price range of these caps was from about 50 cents to twenty dollars. I had the group listen to the different caps without knowing which was in the circuit. The consensus was that there wasn't much difference, and the Jantzen Cross Cap was preferred by most. That's the one that's now wired permanently into the crossover. Don't mean to start that pointless "do caps make a difference?" arguement; just reporting what we heard.

I basically agree with everything Jim has said about the Statements. The one thing I believe he has understated is the power of the bass at the lowerst frequencies. For anybody is in my situation, where there's no space for a large subwoofer in the room, the Statements are one of the few speakers I've head that does powerful bass down to about 30hz. The Dorian Records "Pictures at an Exhibition" (transcribed for and played on a very large pipe organ) rattles the pictures on a wall at the far end of the kitchen, about 30 feet away. Many years ago I worked for a pipe organ builder, and pipe organ music through the statements is as real as it gets without having the actual 16' low C pipes in your room. ;x(

I prefer the sound of the midranges with some stuffing in the transmission lines. I'm currently using a 4"X5" piece of household fiberglass insulation that's abut 10" long in each transmission line.

The only downside to the Statements as a DIY project is that they're labor- intensive. The combination of unusual vertical braces, the midrange transmission lines, and a separate base make for a lot of work. This is the last pair I plan to build, so sorry to all you other Houston Audio Society members who, after hearing them, inquired about my building a pair for you.

Hi Fed,

Thank you for the excellent feedback on the new Statements build. I agree with everything you said regarding the sound. I and many others talk about the midrange and highs but haven't given the bass capability the recognition it deserves. The RS225's are killer bass drivers, IMHO. Also thanks for the feedback on the cabinet mods.

The Statements cabinets are large and take some time to build but not nearly as long or as hard as line arrays.

BTW, I agree completely on Belden 5000. I use 10 gauge for my speaker cables and 12 gauge for internal wiring. It's inexpensive and sounds great.

Jim

[gunbunnysoulja]

Is it possible to build a Statement and use it as a center channel speaker, in the horizontal position?

I am not sure how much this would effect the x-over, and also if this would require it to be a sealed build or not. Another factor would be driver alignment within the box.

I hope this doesn't sound too off the wall... I just love BIG center channel speakers! Plus it would fit great on my 55" wide TV stand.

If not, I will happily go with the dedicated Statement center build.

Thanks in advance!

[Jim Holtz]

Is it possible to build a Statement and use it as a center channel speaker, in the horizontal position?

I am not sure how much this would effect the x-over, and also if this would require it to be a sealed build or not. Another factor would be driver alignment within the box.

I hope this doesn't sound too off the wall... I just love BIG center channel speakers! Plus it would fit great on my 55" wide TV stand.

If not, I will happily go with the dedicated Statement center build.

Thanks in advance!

No, the center channel Statements speaker would be FAR superior due to the lobing charachteristics inherent to the design. The center channel is designed to provide excellent off axis dispersion as is the Statement when standing in an up right position. Lay it on it's side and you now have the same problems as a MTM center. Not recommended at all.

Jim

[impala454]

The center is pretty big anyways

[Coconutout]

how small of a listening cone can statements be in? i'm selling my movie projector setup where the statements were about 8 feet apart for a 22" crt computer screen... and i want to run my statements with it. it's gonna look totally out of place, i'm sure.

[gunbunnysoulja]

No, the center channel Statements speaker would be FAR superior due to the lobing charachteristics inherent to the design. The center channel is designed to provide excellent off axis dispersion as is the Statement when standing in an up right position. Lay it on it's side and you now have the same problems as a MTM center. Not recommended at all.

Jim

Thanks for the reply Jim... I should have assumed as much.

[Curt C]

how small of a listening cone can statements be in? i'm selling my movie projector setup where the statements were about 8 feet apart for a 22" crt computer screen... and i want to run my statements with it. it's gonna look totally out of place, i'm sure.

Not 4 feet, that's for sure. The Statement Monitors would probably integrate acceptably that close.

C

[Coconutout]

how about 6 feet and a 50" plasma between it? *grin

[NateTTU]

I haven't been here much within the past few months but there was a reason. I spend all my free time listening to the speakers! All I have to say again is one big thank you to Jim and Curt and for all you others who helped me with my build. I go home everyday and listen to these awesome speakers and have had so many people just tell me how great they sound. I'm now really beginning to get into music because of these speakers. I like lots of different types of music so if you have any suggestions please share. Thanks a lot guys.

[Jim Holtz]

I haven't been here much within the past few months but there was a reason. I spend all my free time listening to the speakers! All I have to say again is one big thank you to Jim and Curt and for all you others who helped me with my build. I go home everyday and listen to these awesome speakers and have had so many people just tell me how great they sound. I'm now really beginning to get into music because of these speakers. I like lots of different types of music so if you have any suggestions please share. Thanks a lot guys.

Your enjoyment of the Statements is all the thanks we need! I'm really pleased that you're so happy with them. :T

Jim

[HeatMiser]

Curt, you responded a while back to a question about configuring the Statements as MTMWWs in a mildly encouraging way but with some slight reservations about the subjective quality of the bass in such a layout. I'm toying with the idea of trying a sealed cabinet combined with an MTMWW layout, thinking that very nice results might be attainable with the combination of ~.7 Q sealed bass (which Jim has said good things about) and beefy subs to fill as needed. Any thoughts?

I realize I'm looking at a substantially different speaker in some ways, and I mean no disrespect in contemplating a such variations to what is clearly an outstanding design - I wouldn't consider it without having already seen some hints that it might be doable, and the realities of SAF come to bear strongly with speakers like this one. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Curt C]

Curt, you responded a while back to a question about configuring the Statements as MTMWWs in a mildly encouraging way but with some slight reservations about the subjective quality of the bass in such a layout. I'm toying with the idea of trying a sealed cabinet combined with an MTMWW layout, thinking that very nice results might be attainable with the combination of ~.7 Q sealed bass (which Jim has said good things about) and beefy subs to fill as needed. Any thoughts?

I realize I'm looking at a substantially different speaker in some ways, and I mean no disrespect in contemplating a such variations to what is clearly an outstanding design - I wouldn't consider it without having already seen some hints that it might be doable, and the realities of SAF come to bear strongly with speakers like this one. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Paul,

What I really enjoyed about the Statements (compared to the Mini Statements) was the room filling tactile bass response. I attributed this to the symmetrical room loading of the WMTMW design. (But it also could have been the 8” vs 6.5” woofers.) :W

Certainly I can understand wanting to do this in a smaller package, and there is no real reason it cannot be done as you suggest. Theoretically there will be some small differences in diffraction effects with your design vs. the Statement. While these will likely be innocuous, prepare for the possibility of making some small adjustments to the crossover.

In other words, if this is the only thing holding you back, GO FOR IT ! :dothewave:

C

[HeatMiser]

Many thanks, Curt. I must confess I'd pretty much set my mind on making the attempt unless you really, really thought it was a bad idea for some reason. I'll be sure and make a build thread with plenty of pictures when the time comes, and I'll see if I can arrange for measurements at some point too so as to get some kind of objective look at how well it all works out.

[NateTTU]

I never got around to actually making my speakers look like they cost thousands. I keep enjoying them so much that I don't want to take them down. My dad and I originally planned on finishing them with a figured makore veneer front and gloss black everywhere else. I honestly don't want to do it because I think it won't come out very good. So I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on places that could make my speaker look like how it sounds (expensive).

[FroDaddy]

I never got around to actually making my speakers look like they cost thousands. I keep enjoying them so much that I don't want to take them down. My dad and I originally planned on finishing them with a figured makore veneer front and gloss black everywhere else. I honestly don't want to do it because I think it won't come out very good. So I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on places that could make my speaker look like how it sounds (expensive).

This is just hearsay, but I've read where people take the speakers to auto body shops for paint finishes. Their method is essentially what most people do for a glossy black.

When I started the project, I "just wanted an even, glossy black finish; nothing fancy". Glossy black is hard to do, and I underestimated the difficulty level. You can't go by some glossy black paint from Lowes and expect it to turn out right; as I found out first hand. However, I did find another method that worked for me to get a gloss coat on top of flat black. You might try it on some test pieces to see if it's something you'd like try for yourself. I'm going to use this method again on my big statements:

final pic:

https://www.htguide.com/forum/showpost.php?p=409160&postcount=225

the method:

https://www.htguide.com/forum/showpost.php?p=409225&postcount=230

To this day I still don't know how these guys shoot clear, and are able to sand it to a glossy finish. I might have been using the wrong HVLP gun and/or material. But, the poly method isn't as bad as it sounds once you figure out what you're working with and how to do it. EDIT: Oh, I wanted to say here that the poly method isn't piano black, but IMO it is glossy enough for most. Good luck!

[---k---]

I would ask around at your local Woodcraft, Rockler, or hard WOOD dealer if they know of any custom furniture people that they recommend. Then call one of them and ask them how much they would charge you for a fancy veneer job. Chances are that they will know someone. My local hard wood store supports a local woodworking club. I've gotten help once from one of the members.

[impala454]

I have read that there are places that will powder coat MDF, has anyone had any experience with that?

[mlammert]

I am playing around with a new "footprint" for the Statement's that I am going to be building...

Is there any issue with having "angled" side walls as shown in the attached picture???

I have kept the very front side of the baffle 11 1/2 inches as indicated in the original design...

I was just wondering if the sloped side of the speaker will have any adverse affects on the SQ??? Also, these would not have the round-over applied to the vertical sides of the baffle...

Thanks for your input,
Mark

[Curt C]

I am playing around with a new "footprint" for the Statement's that I am going to be building...

Is there any issue with having "angled" side walls as shown in the attached picture???

I have kept the very front side of the baffle 11 1/2 inches as indicated in the original design...

I was just wondering if the sloped side of the speaker will have any adverse affects on the SQ??? Also, these would not have the round-over applied to the vertical sides of the baffle...

Thanks for your input,
Mark

The lack of roundovers may cause some midrange and up ripple, but the effects will likely not be audible.

Overall, I see no issues with your design modification. Nice touch!

C

[mlammert]

Another question on angled baffle corners instead of round-overs:

Attached you can see a proposed cross-section view of my front baffle...

Just to clarify how it would be oriented; side A would be the surface attached to the speaker cabinet and side B would be the surface the drivers are mounted to...

My questions are:

1) Would this sort of angle be okay to use instead of a round-overs??? It is 45 degrees...

2) If it is okay to do this, would it be better for side A to be 11.5" or should side B be 11.5" inches for use with the Statements??? Or, would it even matter???

Again, thank to everyone/anyone for their input on this... I am having fun designing the new structures, but I keep having questions on them...

Thanks!!!

Mark

[Jim Holtz]

Another question on angled baffle corners instead of round-overs:

Attached you can see a proposed cross-section view of my front baffle...

Just to clarify how it would be oriented; side A would be the surface attached to the speaker cabinet and side B would be the surface the drivers are mounted to...

My questions are:

1) Would this sort of angle be okay to use instead of a round-overs??? It is 45 degrees...

2) If it is okay to do this, would it be better for side A to be 11.5" or should side B be 11.5" inches for use with the Statements??? Or, would it even matter???

Again, thank to everyone/anyone for their input on this... I am having fun designing the new structures, but I keep having questions on them...

Thanks!!!

Mark

Hi Mark,

Angle or round over is fine. I'd suggest you make A the 11 1/2" side.

It should work great and be very distinctive.

Jim

[mlammert]

Thank you to Jim and Curt for your advice on the angled baffle questions!!!

Mark

[mlammert]

Question on Speaker Placement

As I begin to finalize the new footprint and shape of my Statements, I have a question regarding speaker position related to the material in the room...

I have been reviewing the posts and text regarding where to place the Statements in the room...

The room that I will be placing my Statements in is roughly 25' x 10'...

There is a large window on the 25' wall... The window is not a floor to ceiling window... I have about 18" of drywall from the floor and then the rest of the wall to the ceiling is Solid window...

The speakers (at least one of them) will more than likely need to be positioned in front of this window or at least very close to the window...

Does it pose a problem to place the speakers in front of a "reflective" glass surface like this???

I am primarily thinking of the midrange baffles and more than likely I will be incorporating the port to fire backwards instead of down...

Realizing I will not live in my current house forever, I do not want to alter my design just for this one installation area...

However, I was just wondering if others thought that this was a "major problem", "no problem", or "something that I should be fine with as long as I take a, b, and c into account" when building/placing the final speakers...

Thank you!!!
Mark

[Dennis H]

As far as sound waves are concerned, drywall is about as reflective as glass.

[Regg]

For my first post, I just need to say:

I have to have The Statements.

I'm really intrigued by all the intelligent designs coming out of the DIY community, and The Statements are very appealing...very high on the WAF scale to boot, if I had the skills.

[David_D]

For my first post, I just need to say:

I have to have The Statements.

I'm really intrigued by all the intelligent designs coming out of the DIY community, and The Statements are very appealing...very high on the WAF scale to boot, if I had the skills.

Regg,
JUST DO IT!
I made the center - - Fantastic!
I can't wait to find the time to build the mains so I can put my multi-Thousand $ Mirage's to surround duty.