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  • JimS
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 157

    #91
    Really exciting news for this thread and ‘new speaker’ day for me!!

    I had a chance to drive up to Steve’s over the weekend and pick up the cabs/crossovers. For background, this project started with a forum post in the Kurosawa thread and inquiry to Steve about a build in early 2000, then Covid stopped any progress for a number of years. When I finally got back around to it, we didn’t formally kick off project planning and confirm the build until early 2025. So there has been quite a bit of anticipation on my side to get these running. Short answer: totally exceeded expectations!!

    Before getting into impressions, a moment of reflection and thanks….

    First, huge thanks to Jon who so freely shares his knowledge, expertise and, most importantly, time with this community. Over the past decade+ I've had numerous beautiful and goosebump raising moments from music playback due to the designs Jon's published here as well as his many musings and measurements of speakers and associated playback gear throughout the years. Short answer, if you are on the fence or considering building one of Jon's designs, grab one that fits your budget/skills and do it, you won't be disappointed!!

    Also, Steve who diplomatically and professionally managed through the decision and design process while providing helpful advice and nudges along the way, despite some questionable aesthetic thoughts at various times from the starter of this thread . Pictures on the forum look great, but IMHO do minimal justice to Steve's completed projects which you really need to see in person to appreciate - he's not only building to spec but adding all the small touches and attention to detail which delight in the finished work. He is truly an artist and most highly recommended if you need help with portions of your build or a turnkey project.

    Finally Sven who keeps this community vibrant and does so much unheralded work to maintain the vast wealth of knowledge (and associated photos) which have been compiled here over the years. Also great that someone local was willing to share their experience in building a (quite different looking) version of the Ardent d and I'm looking forward to some quality listening sessions if we ever end up in town on the same weekend .

    OK, on to the speakers. These are spectacular looking, great sounding out of the box (so far with no in-room measurement, no sonic barrier/estimated stuffing, and limited positioning/set up time in room) and really nicely sized for aesthetic/performance balance.

    I've had minimal time to listen so far and what I've heard shows I need to spend much more effort on the room than I was able to get away with for dipoles (i.e. leaning absorber panels from the studio at first reflections didn't quite cut it....). Room issues aside cymbals/trumpet/vocals/orchestral brass and strings sounded great (quick playlist = Miles/Nefertiti, Holly Cole/anything, Fritz Reiner/Mussorgsky, etc.) and get me really excited about the potential here once dialed in .

    Thanks all, more when I get back into town and have a bit more time....

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    • JonMarsh
      JonMarsh commented
      Editing a comment
      Don't forget what can be done with a passive inline filter between preamp and power amp, as discussed in the thread about a "Voicing Filter". Was looking at the same for a Kii inspired design, due to the LF roll off of the log throw Peerless woofers. Easy to pick up 3 dB or more, and almost zero chance of any coloration, unlike an active solution.
  • JimS
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 157

    #92
    For the stability question, I added the base Steve built and some shims for the rear footers which tilt the cabinet forward ~4 degrees (final tilt to be determined based on measurement and listening) and it’s now fully stable front to back. Side to side still has a bit of wiggle on carpet so I may add outriggers or a bigger base at some point, but for now it is fine for me (*if you have small kids, cats or clumsy dogs this is not an endorsement of this approach….)

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    • JonMarsh
      Mad Max Moderator
      • Aug 2000
      • 16069

      #93
      Originally posted by JimS
      (*if you have small kids, cats or clumsy dogs this is not an endorsement of this approach….)
      🤣

      What about clumsy grownups?
      Last edited by theSven; 12 March 2026, 09:40 Thursday. Reason: Fix quote to line up with Jims post
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      • Steve Manning
        Moderator
        • Dec 2006
        • 2128

        #94
        Originally posted by JimS
        For the stability question, I added the base Steve built and some shims for the rear footers which tilt the cabinet forward ~4 degrees (final tilt to be determined based on measurement and listening) and it’s now fully stable front to back. Side to side still has a bit of wiggle on carpet so I may add outriggers or a bigger base at some point, but for now it is fine for me (*if you have small kids, cats or clumsy dogs this is not an endorsement of this approach….)
        After looking a little closer at the picture ..... clever use of those extra PR discs!
        Hold on to your butts - It's about to get Musical!



        WEBSITE: http://www.smjaudio.com/

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        • JimS
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 157

          #95
          Originally posted by JonMarsh
          (*if you have small kids, cats or clumsy dogs this is not an endorsement of this approach….)


          🤣

          What about clumsy grownups?
          I was going to say they are now more stable than me 😜, at least with the tilt people will think twice about setting drinks on them 👍
          Last edited by theSven; 12 March 2026, 09:41 Thursday.

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          • JimS
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 157

            #96
            Originally posted by Steve Manning

            After looking a little closer at the picture ..... clever use of those extra PR discs!
            Nice catch, waste not, want not 😜

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            • Efalegalo
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 160

              #97
              JimS - I'd love to come check out the speakers (don't want to impose, but very much interste). I have measurement gear I could bring over, if you are interested in measuring how they perform in your room.

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              • JimS
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 157

                #98
                Originally posted by Efalegalo
                JimS - I'd love to come check out the speakers (don't want to impose, but very much interste). I have measurement gear I could bring over, if you are interested in measuring how they perform in your room.
                Hi Dhar, of course, would be happy to host. Just need to find some available time, realistically might be early April . Will txt to find a good date.

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                • theSven
                  Master of None
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 1656

                  #99
                  Early April would be great for me to tag along with Efalegalo. I leave for a business trip next week and will be out for 2 weeks. I'm super excited for you JimS. The weather is getting really good if you still were thinking about painting these cabinets.

                  Thanks for the kind words about keeping the forum going. It's been rewarding having older members come back and engage again. The biggest battle these days is the bots that pound on the site and trying to manage them without having other pieces of the forum break. Another problem for another day.

                  I'm sooooo looking forward to a listening session!!
                  Painter in training

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