Statements Build - Bamboo Flooring Skin

[poppapig]

Hey all,
In the past month or so I have embarked on a full-size Statements build. I am nearly finished with the mains and will move on to the Center Channel.

Here's the build of the Mains (one more to skin):

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Regarding the Center Channel. I would like it to be a full size Statement i.e. retain both 4" mids. I can build it to standard spec and replace my current projection screen with an audio-transparent screen but the speakers are purdy and I'd like it to not hide.

Thoughts on
A.) Building the sealed version and just flipping it on it's side
B.) Offsetting the tweeter and try to maintain on-center distances between all drivers..

Thanks in advance!

[poppapig]

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[Jim Holtz]

Hey all,
In the past month or so I have embarked on a full-size Statements build. I am nearly finished with the mains and will move on to the Center Channel.

Here's the build of the Mains (one more to skin):

Images not available

Regarding the Center Channel. I would like it to be a full size Statement i.e. retain both 4" mids. I can build it to standard spec and replace my current projection screen with an audio-transparent screen but the speakers are purdy and I'd like it to not hide.

Thoughts on
A.) Building the sealed version and just flipping it on it's side
B.) Offsetting the tweeter and try to maintain on-center distances between all drivers..

Thanks in advance!

Very nice build!

I'd suggest the Frodaddy center based on what you're wanting. There is a thread in Mission Accomplished that should have all the build info.

Jim

[poppapig]

Very nice build!

I'd suggest the Frodaddy center based on what you're wanting. There is a thread in Mission Accomplished that should have all the build info.

Jim

Ha! I was JUST perusing his pages Thank you Jim, the project has been challenging and allot of fun..

[poppapig]

In consideration of the various options, I think I will make a third "standard" Statement and run it as a center channel behind an audio-transparent screen. I have a thing about parity

[impala454]

Awesome looking build!

[soundemon]

Very nice looking build! I bet you are dying to listen to them!

[poppapig]

Very nice looking build! I bet you are dying to listen to them!

Thanks-ya Gents!

Yeah I'm very curious how these will sound. I use the time in the shop to distract me from my subconscious so allot of the motivation is the build vs result but if they blow my mind, I wont complain I have some buddies that are going to come over for the first sound test. We'll mount the drivers, place the speakers, hook-up and either witness my shame (If I mess'd something up) or elation

Any recommendations on break-in? Content, duration, volume level?

[Jim Holtz]

Thanks-ya Gents!

Yeah I'm very curious how these will sound. I use the time in the shop to distract me from my subconscious so allot of the motivation is the build vs result but if they blow my mind, I wont complain I have some buddies that are going to come over for the first sound test. We'll mount the drivers, place the speakers, hook-up and either witness my shame (If I mess'd something up) or elation

Any recommendations on break-in? Content, duration, volume level?

Two thoughts.


1. I can't see if you cut a channel in the back of the base so the port could breath. If not, you need pretty tall spikes on the bottom of the base to give the port plenty of breathing room. I used 2 1/2" tall spikes plus I have a 5" wide channel cut in the back of the base.

2. Breakin; I like to get about 20 hours of playing time before I do much in the way of critical listening. Normal volume playing what you'll listen to is fine. Turn it on and leave.

Jim

[poppapig]

Two thoughts.


1. I can't see if you cut a channel in the back of the base so the port could breath. If not, you need pretty tall spikes on the bottom of the base to give the port plenty of breathing room. I used 2 1/2" tall spikes plus I have a 5" wide channel cut in the back of the base.

2. Breakin; I like to get about 20 hours of playing time before I do much in the way of critical listening. Normal volume playing what you'll listen to is fine. Turn it on and leave.

Jim

Thanks Jim,
I didn't see the Base channel in the specs but that makes sense. I ran the unfinished base over the table saw, but the finished base will require skill-saw surgery

Regarding break-in: Ok, very good!

[Finleyville]

very nice indeed. I see you own the same Kreg jig and clamps that I do. I hope you like those speakers as much as I like my Finalists.

[john trials]

That bamboo flooring looks great. Nice build so far. Driving Statements with a Lepai amp made me laugh!

[poppapig]

Thanks-y'all
Love that lil pocket jig.. It shored up allot of joints needing more than glue/clamping could give.

Driving Statements with a Lepai amp made me laugh!

Wut? lol

[madmac]

Two thoughts.


1. I can't see if you cut a channel in the back of the base so the port could breath. If not, you need pretty tall spikes on the bottom of the base to give the port plenty of breathing room. I used 2 1/2" tall spikes plus I have a 5" wide channel cut in the back of the base.

2. Breakin; I like to get about 20 hours of playing time before I do much in the way of critical listening. Normal volume playing what you'll listen to is fine. Turn it on and leave.

Jim

Turn on a new speaker build and LEAVE???. Oh my......that for me would be just not possible!.

[TEK]

Leave and come back to sound nirvana or a burned down house - all depending on your skills 8O

[poppapig]

Getting clooooose!
I tried in earnest to find recommendations on sound treatment regarding the statements but did not have any luck.. With the transmission-line mid ranges should I have or avoid sound treatment on the back wall? Any general advice outside of the guidance regarding spacing?

[Jim Holtz]

I use mine with sheet rock walls behind and on the sides with no issues. Start without treatment and go from there. Be sure to install the 1" flat foam in the tunnels exactly as speced to start with.

Jim

[poppapig]

I use mine with sheet rock walls behind and on the sides with no issues. Start without treatment and go from there. Be sure to install the 1" flat foam in the tunnels exactly as speced to start with.

Jim

Thanks Jim, will do
Final Countdown!

[fschris]

amazing build... I have to build a pair of these soon

[JonMarsh]

Looking very nice so far! :T

[poppapig]

Thank you Gents!

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
I'll take time later in the week to provide listening impressions but for now here are the final pics (though I may take more with a legit camera as these are all from my phone).









Pretty sure these tip the scales ~230lbs each. My good buddy is a power-lifter and I'm a Triathlete; we needed the training to carry these inside They are placed 18" from the back wall and maybe 14" from the side. I don't recall what the recommended side-wall placement is.. The "little" floor stander next to the Statement in the picture is an Infinity Delta 40 (ran those for 15yrs!). I will likely make a velvet side panel for them to eliminate the screen glare. I am already very impressed with some listening I did before a gathering in my Man-Cave last night (Film&Theology). I stared at them often as if they are two centerfolds who have taken up residence lol.. They are big and beautiful.. Yes I hugged each one! Hey what can I say.. I'm a Statement-hugger.

[kevinm]

I did too. No shame.

[Jim Holtz]

Beautiful work! That is a job well done! :T

I hope you enjoy the sound quality as much as I do. Remember to let them break in for about 20 hours before any serious listening.

Jim

[Hank]

Beautiful work and I'm sure you, family and guests will get many hours of delightful music and movie enjoyment from your labor of love.

[poppapig]

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[poppapig]

Beautiful work and I'm sure you, family and guests will get many hours of delightful music and movie enjoyment from your labor of love.

Thank you Hank! It's certainly heading that way.. These sound beautiful even though they are currently underpowered and un-broken-in..

[poppapig]

Beautiful work! That is a job well done! :T

I hope you enjoy the sound quality as much as I do. Remember to let them break in for about 20 hours before any serious listening.

Jim

Thank you Jim!
I find myself very thankful for your contribution. Perhaps sometime I will delve into design myself however this project met me right where I am. I enjoy multifaceted/complex projects which result in new skills & knowledge.

I have not breached 20hrs yet (~hr 8 now) but I have to say it was my wife's reaction to the sound that made the project already worth-while. She was giddy listening to a few familiar tracks (bouncing, agape smile, giggles) as she heard back-up vocals she previously thought were instruments and a depth to sounds she'd never heard. I'll provide impressions in the next week or so once more listening is put in. I will say I am not powering these sufficiently so I am going to install a 2nd set of plugs for the woofers and bi-wire them which will take them from 115W @4ohms to 230W (Emotiva Amp). Thank you again sir, it's really cool to show you yet another completed product from your design.

P.S. Short of the Statement monitors; any ideas for a compact design for surrounds? Monitors would be over-kill for the use they'll get.

[kevinm]

I had the parts laying around for the Noobsters (Vifa DX25 and Tang Band W5-704D). I've started building and should be test worthy in a few weeks - I can let you know.

Far from ideal since the drivers are different, but I was under some restrictions that led me to try the Noobsters (recycling parts is a good thing, right?). At only .5 cubic foot cabinet, the size is pretty good.

[Jim Holtz]

Thank you Jim!
I find myself very thankful for your contribution. Perhaps sometime I will delve into design myself however this project met me right where I am. I enjoy multifaceted/complex projects which result in new skills & knowledge.

I have not breached 20hrs yet (~hr 8 now) but I have to say it was my wife's reaction to the sound that made the project already worth-while. She was giddy listening to a few familiar tracks (bouncing, agape smile, giggles) as she heard back-up vocals she previously thought were instruments and a depth to sounds she'd never heard. I'll provide impressions in the next week or so once more listening is put in. I will say I am not powering these sufficiently so I am going to install a 2nd set of plugs for the woofers and bi-wire them which will take them from 115W @4ohms to 230W (Emotiva Amp). Thank you again sir, it's really cool to show you yet another completed product from your design.

P.S. Short of the Statement monitors; any ideas for a compact design for surrounds? Monitors would be over-kill for the use they'll get.

Thank you for the kind words but it's Curt that deserves all the credit for how the Statements sound. He's the genius behind this collaboration. He's the one that pulls my crazy ideas together and makes them sing beautiful music.

It sounds like the Statements are off to a good start if your wife is that happy already. I'm looking forward to your impressions when they're broken in and you can properly listen to them.

Tell me a little bit about your usage of the Statements. How much music and how much home theater are you planning on? What are goals for the system looking ahead?

Once I get that, I can make some recommendations.

Jim

[poppapig]

Thank you for the kind words but it's Curt that deserves all the credit for how the Statements sound. He's the genius behind this collaboration. He's the one that pulls my crazy ideas together and makes them sing beautiful music.

It sounds like the Statements are off to a good start if your wife is that happy already. I'm looking forward to your impressions when they're broken in and you can properly listen to them.

Tell me a little bit about your usage of the Statements. How much music and how much home theater are you planning on? What are goals for the system looking ahead?

Once I get that, I can make some recommendations.

Jim

"All the credit" eh? Never underestimate the value of crazy ideas
I would sum up the use of my Statements as eclectic. They live in my Man-Cave/Family Ent room where Movies/TV/Xbox are viewed and listening is done. Probably a 75% TV/Gaming to 25% music listening split. I have diverse musical sensibilities but particularly enjoy acoustic sets/pure vocals. I also enjoy high quality live concert series videos.. I like sensible, clean/tight base and play most everything at a moderate listening level.

[poppapig]

The Bamboo Mammoths got hungry, so I Bi-amp'd them

[john trials]

P.S. Short of the Statement monitors; any ideas for a compact design for surrounds? Monitors would be over-kill for the use they'll get.

I have the Statement Monitors for surrounds. You are correct...overkill. I got a bit carried away with speaker building! Some day, I would love to build something smaller and free up the Monitors for stereo listening in a different room, but I'm still in ultra-stingy mode after recently ending two years of unemployment. I wish I had bought more of the W4-1337 drivers a few years ago when they were on sale for $35.

I haven't listened to any of them, but look at the Lineup series. Some of them use the same mid and tweeter as the Statements, so they should be fairly closely matched, sound-wise. Start off with some F4 speakers (full-range speakers with just one W4-1337 each), and if that doesn't satisfy your needs, get some Fountek tweeters and upgrade to the R4 (W4-1337 with a Fountek CD3.0).

And let me know how they sound!

https://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php?27583-Lineup-Series-Build-Thread-%28F4-D4-D44-R4-R44%29

[poppapig]

Thank you John, these looks cool..

[Mrpictureman]

Two thoughts.


1. I can't see if you cut a channel in the back of the base so the port could breath. If not, you need pretty tall spikes on the bottom of the base to give the port plenty of breathing room. I used 2 1/2" tall spikes plus I have a 5" wide channel cut in the back of the base.

2. Breakin; I like to get about 20 hours of playing time before I do much in the way of critical listening. Normal volume playing what you'll listen to is fine. Turn it on and leave.

Jim

It has been a while since I logged in of course having built my own statements I had to see how everyone was doing on theirs and noticed Jim's comment "I can't see if you cut a channel in the back of the base so the port could breath" I don't remember this in the original plans, did I miss something? Is this new? Can someone explain this for me? Thanks

[Jim Holtz]

It has been a while since I logged in of course having built my own statements I had to see how everyone was doing on theirs and noticed Jim's comment "I can't see if you cut a channel in the back of the base so the port could breath" I don't remember this in the original plans, did I miss something? Is this new? Can someone explain this for me? Thanks

If I remember correctly, it was a running change that was made after the Statements were published. As long as the port has plenty of room to breath it's not a requirement for good bass at all. I also used 2" spikes to lift the base far enough off the floor to allow good air flow in all directions.

You'd know if you had a bass problem by now.

Jim

[Mrpictureman]

If I remember correctly, it was a running change that was made after the Statements were published. As long as the port has plenty of room to breath it's not a requirement for good bass at all. I also used 2" spikes to lift the base far enough off the floor to allow good air flow in all directions.

You'd know if you had a bass problem by now.

Jim

I'm pretty pleased with the bass response and tightness, although I do have them elevated 2 1/4" so I will stick with what I have Thanks Jim

[PassingInterest]

They look Majestic!

[wkhanna]

Progress always makes the best photo....

[poppapig]

They look Majestic!

Thank you!

Some updates:

[Jim Holtz]

Beautiful! :T

Jim

[kevinm]

Looks good! Very unique. What do you have in those cabinets on either side of the center?