Death of a RSP-1069?

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  • EmilSA
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 22

    Death of a RSP-1069?

    I have messed up my firmware upgrade on my RSP-1069 and it seems I will now be paying some stupidty-tax as a result thereof.

    The local Rotel agents in South Africa can replace the digital board at around $800, or send it UK, where there is some glimmer of hope in resuscitating it, but this would probably cost just ask much.

    I can probably buy a good second hand unit for about $1000, or I could go for the RSP-1572.

    My plan was however to buy a new Blu-Ray player and feed analogue 7.1 into the old RSP-1069, so I'm not entirely convinced of forking out over $2600 for a new processor - it seems that the onbaord processing of many of the new Blu-Ray players such as the Oppo, Cambridge Audio, Marantz are so good that I didn't really have to upgrade my RSP-1069.

    So the probalem remains that the RSP-1069 is dead in the water and I need some advice. Has anybody heard of somebody who has brought such a processor back from the dead?

    Any advice on this matter and potential upgrade options would be greatly appreciated!
  • EmilSA
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 22

    #2
    Can somebody perhaps put me in touch with Mike Sheehan, who I believe knows a lot about these Rotel related matters? I would also like to know how to pass-tru 3D on the RSP-1069 if I do manage to get it working again.

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    • madmac
      Moderator Emeritus
      • Aug 2010
      • 3122

      #3
      Originally posted by EmilSA
      I have messed up my firmware upgrade on my RSP-1069 and it seems I will now be paying some stupidty-tax as a result thereof.

      The local Rotel agents in South Africa can replace the digital board at around $800, or send it UK, where there is some glimmer of hope in resuscitating it, but this would probably cost just ask much.

      I can probably buy a good second hand unit for about $1000, or I could go for the RSP-1572.

      My plan was however to buy a new Blu-Ray player and feed analogue 7.1 into the old RSP-1069, so I'm not entirely convinced of forking out over $2600 for a new processor - it seems that the onbaord processing of many of the new Blu-Ray players such as the Oppo, Cambridge Audio, Marantz are so good that I didn't really have to upgrade my RSP-1069.

      So the probalem remains that the RSP-1069 is dead in the water and I need some advice. Has anybody heard of somebody who has brought such a processor back from the dead?

      Any advice on this matter and potential upgrade options would be greatly appreciated!

      Ouch !! that's really too bad!!. Is there someway or another that you might be able to do another 'backwards' firmware to restore it to what was once the old firmware??. Just a thought. I've only done one firmware update on my Oppo dvd player and it scared the hell outta' me. I will never do a firmware update on anything again unless absolutely nesessary!! h:
      Dan Madden :T

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      • audiomatters
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 4

        #4
        Why would you feed 7.1 analog into the 1069. It will accept the HD codecs decoded from the blu ray player through the hdmi.

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        • EmilSA
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 22

          #5
          I have now also learnt that the RSP-1069 will accept LPCM via HDMI. So I think that is what I will do. Thanks for the input!

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          • madmac
            Moderator Emeritus
            • Aug 2010
            • 3122

            #6
            If the member has the Oppo BDP-95 , this person is better going via the oppo into the analog inputs on his/her Rotel for the superior DAC conversion That the Oppo offers. HDMI conversion is OK if the DAC processor in the Rotel is better than the source DAC converter which in the case of the Oppo 95, is very highly unlikely.
            Dan Madden :T

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            • mjb
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 1483

              #7
              Originally posted by EmilSA
              Can somebody perhaps put me in touch with Mike Sheehan, who I believe knows a lot about these Rotel related matters?
              msheehan@equityaudio.com
              - Mike

              Main System:
              B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
              Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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              • mjb
                Super Senior Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 1483

                #8
                Originally posted by madmac
                If the member has the Oppo BDP-95 , this person is better going via the oppo into the analog inputs on his/her Rotel for the superior DAC conversion That the Oppo offers. HDMI conversion is OK if the DAC processor in the Rotel is better than the source DAC converter which in the case of the Oppo 95, is very highly unlikely.
                Perhaps, I'd want to hear a few A/B tests though.
                Last edited by mjb; 13 March 2012, 05:34 Tuesday.
                - Mike

                Main System:
                B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
                Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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                • EmilSA
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 22

                  #9
                  I'm getting my RSP-1069 back today from the South African Rotel agents. I'm also getting my Cambridge Audio 751 BD, which is based on the Oppo, but has 5 Wolfson DAC's on the analogue outputs, so I think there is a good chance that this BD player actually has better onboard decoding than my ageing RSP-1069. Any opinions to the contrary?

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                  • bigburner
                    Super Senior Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 2649

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EmilSA
                    I'm also getting my Cambridge Audio 751 BD, which is based on the Oppo, but has 5 Wolfson DAC's on the analogue outputs, so I think there is a good chance that this BD player actually has better onboard decoding than my ageing RSP-1069. Any opinions to the contrary?
                    No contrary opinion from me EmilSA. If I hadn't bought an Oppo BDP-95 then your Cambridge Audio is the one I would have got. A colleague whose opinion I respect tells me that the analogue output of his 751BD is excellent.

                    If/when you get your RSP-1069 back we'll be interested to hear how the DACs in the 751BD compare.

                    Nigel.

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                    • EmilSA
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 22

                      #11
                      Thanks for the input! I will try to compare the DAC's onboard the RSP-1069 and the 751 BD as best I could. Interconnects could play a big role here as well. I just want to correct myself on the statement above that the CA 751 BD is based on the Oppo - it is more like both the Oppo and the CA 751 BD are based on the Mediatek MTK8530 platform.

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                      • paully
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 12

                        #12
                        oh i feel sorry for you. i was about to update the firmware on my 1069. think i'll hold that thought for a while.

                        does anyone know how to tell if the hardware mod to bypass the video transcoder on the 1069 has been done?

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                        • hery19
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 67

                          #13
                          One way to tell is if in the menu you have the option to bypass.
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                          • paully
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 12

                            #14
                            I read that with the firmware upgrade you can see the menu to bypass but if the hardware mod isn't done it will ignore the menu setting. I'd like to know why the hardware mod is?

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                            • Kevin D
                              Ultra Senior Member
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4601

                              #15
                              Call Rotel with the serial number. They'll know.

                              Kevin D.

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                              • gp4Jesus
                                Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 60

                                #16
                                How do I take advantage of the superior HDMI audio w/an RSP 1069

                                The it along w/other early Rotel HDMI "compatible" gear is V1.1 not to mention all the "handshake" problems I keep reading about. I can't $wing upgrading to the brand new stuff.

                                I have a large tax refund pending processing, just not large enough. Thanks in advance, Tony
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