Rotel RSP 1572

[Mikael]

Hi guys here is some news from Rotel

http://www.youtube.com/user/ravepubs#p/u/116/rHvvdQM_lss

[Fishy]

Jesus that sounds a little on the cheap side compared to their previous models.

Fish

[srb]

One would hope that Mark Schnoll, Product Manager of the B&W group, wouldn't refer to the RSP-1572 as the RSP-1072 in a video.

As far as the price, $2599 MSRP for the RSP-1570 was overpriced, so the $2199 MSRP for the replacement RSP-1572 is at least an adjustment step in the right direction, but likely still somewhat overvalued.

Steve

[PSUfan]

I'll be interested to see if they have been able to address the various issues with hdmi that I experienced with the 1570 as others who have discussed it at length. I returned my 1570 and went back to my 1068. Hopefully this unit will be my replacement for it!

[Kevin D]

After standing on your feet for several days plus the required 'entertaining' at night, I doubt I could get the model number right every time either.

RSX-1562 coming next month as well.

Kevin D.

[Dmantis]

HDMI has been the single worse Idea what could of been great in our audio video history. Never except DVI has there been so many failed products.
I don't think Rotel is directly responsible for all the HDMI problems. They are absolutely not alone in this front. I actually wanted to scream so many times with HDMI issues. Produts just not working together , pink green and speckled screen , no sync , works then don't etc etc etc.
10 Base T sounds like a cool idea but sounds like they are not going to replace HDMI anytime soon or at all. Someone has to come up with a better idea then HDMI did. They are on the right track but fail on every rail.

It's now been a few years since Rotel powered my theater system. I'm curious to see these new models.

[Audio_ElF]

Hi guys here is some news from Rotel

http://www.youtube.com/user/ravepubs...16/rHvvdQM_lss

Interesting "feature"...

'everything gets digitised' does that mean no true analogue bypass any more?

Good or bad? Not sure but thought it was worth commenting.

I also noted the video said 6in 1out: a preliminary spec sheet else where says 6in 2 out which sounds better.

Eloise

[madmac]

@dmantis.......agreed on every front. The problems are all related to copy protection, not performance.

[Kevin D]

Its dual ouput (mirrored, not dual zone). One with ARC.

[Audio_ElF]

Feature request...

Okay, so there's a feature I've never found on an AV processor which I think is seriously missing...

Why can't the 12v triggers "work" according to the sound processing mode?

i.e. Trigger 1 active for 2channel modes
Trigger 1 & 2 active for surround modes.
Even 1&2 for 5.1 and 1,2&3 for 7.1.

Not anything earth shattering... Just useful!

Eloise

[Kevin D]

Can you ellaborate how you would use that?

Kevin D.

[hurin]

Why can't the 12v triggers "work" according to the sound processing mode?

The 12v Tigger will only turn units on or off. To get it to work that way, you'll need two or more amps, one for the fronts and others for the rears.

[Audio_ElF]

The 12v Tigger will only turn units on or off. To get it to work that way, you'll need two or more amps, one for the fronts and others for the rears.

Exactly; but that's usual with Rotel having 5 channel and 2 channel units.

Eloise

[hifiguymi]

A work around would be to have two different inputs set up the same with the same inputs assigned but the default sound mode being different and the triggers different. It would depend on whether or not you have an available input.

Eric

[Audio_ElF]

A work around would be to have two different inputs set up the same with the same inputs assigned but the default sound mode being different and the triggers different. It would depend on whether or not you have an available input.

Yes there's work arounds like that; but not very convinient.

I guess no one else sees it as a useful feature to have...

Eloise

[JDH]

I've prevously owned the Rotel RSP-1066/1068/1069 and currently an Onkyo PR-SC5507 AV controller. I do actually prefer the simplisity of the Rotel over complexity of the Onkyo which pretty much has everything.

In terms of the RSP-1572, it almost has the features I'd like to be converted back, shame it appears to lack Network capability, (home server, internet radio), Ipod app, option for automated speaker setup and possibly, user defined delays on the 12V trigger, pre-out for front high or wide effect speakers. Some of this could be addressed by adding a Rotel RDG-1520 DAB+ Tuner but just another box that could of easily been integrated into the RSP-1572 like pretty much every other entry/mid level AVR from the likes of Yamaha/Denon/Marantz/Onkyo etc.


I could probably live without most of these extra features as I have other devices that already do it, ie. Slim Devices Transporter, HTPC, Oppo 95 etc, but I assume there would be a lot of buyers that will be expecting it.

That being said when I eventually update my TV and projector to full HD and 3D capability and assuming I have any interest in 3D, I'll give the Rotel further consideration as long as the firmware and video scaler work properly and not like the RSP-1069 I eventually sold for HDMI handshaking issues and useless scaler.

[PSUfan]

Anyone able to demo or purchase one yet? I was under the impression they would be available this month

[ADC]

I picked one up last night and will install this weekend.

[Sackrat]

I picked one up last night and will install this weekend.

Hi ADC, where do you live? I have had my 1572 ordered with my dealer for almost three weeks. I believe they have made an order for them about one week ago so I am hopeful it shows up soon. Let us hear from you after this weekend. Good Luck

[ADC]

Picked it up in Baltimore MD

[Sackrat]

I picked one up last night and will install this weekend.

ADC I must ask how the setup went and how are the results so far?? And how user friendly is the unit. I know the Owners Manual sucks plus the RSP 1572 uses a different remote from the RSP 1570. Your thoughts please??

[ADC]

Oppo 93 is working for CD and DVD. I have not hooked up TV yet. Mcintosh MC207, BW 805 all sound very nice.

I have nothing to compare it to since I am a new to all this

[dglozic]

Oppo 93 is working for CD and DVD. I have not hooked up TV yet. Mcintosh MC207, BW 805 all sound very nice.

I have nothing to compare it to since I am a new to all this

Hi ADC. What other speakers beside B&W 805 do you have?

[ADC]

B&W ASW10 sub and B&W CMC center. That is it for now.

[Sackrat]

One week ago I removed my 2003 B&K Ref 30 prepro and rewired my cabinet from component to HDMI in preparation for the arrival on my Rotel RSP-1572. It arrived yesterday so I made the connections, configured the inputs, and set up speakers and ran SLP meter gains. What a wonderful sound. I played over the air 5.1 TV, Time Warner 5.1 cable, analog stereo phono, and blu ray lossless audio. All ran great. Still need to set up the bluetooth dongle to play my iPhone music and do a few small tweeks to finalize. I am a happy guy and pleased with the Rotel. Owners manual takes some geting used to though. I printed it from the website several weeks ago to get a head start on understanding the Rotel and determining how I wanted to connect all my stuff. Sure glad I did as it really helped save much time in wiring and understanding the menus. Love the Rotel

[madmac]

Ok Sackrat....you are officially a member of this club!!. Why?.......only a audio nut/ dude would download the manual and read it BEFORE even owning the unit!! HEHEHE!!. Most people don't even read the damn manual, even when they get, unpack and connect their gear let alone before!!. Most of the time, I'm an expert of a unit even before I own it because I've gone through the manual with a fine tooth comb like you!! Enjoy your Rotel!!.

[Sackrat]

Thanks Madmac Yes I like to know beforehand what I am geting for my money and will it fulfill my AV needs. I spent two weeks reading and highlighting the manual. I had hoped Parasound would have their prepro out a year ago but they scraped it. B&K Ref 70 did not process lossless or do HDMI 1.4 for 3D. I looked at Denon, Marantz, Arcam, NAD, Anthem, and a few others. Almost went for the Integra 80-3. Rotel was best product for me. Plus it is not too tall or too deep. Fits my cabinet perfect. Like Goldie Locks "just right". The only cable I did not have ready to plug into the Rotel when it got here was the firmware update ethernet cable that plugs into the back but is supplied with the Rotel prepro. Ethernet on one end and 9 pin Seriel on the other. Thanks Rotel.

[Flateng]

Rotel RSP 1570

I`ve got my new RSP 1572 yesterday, but i cant get "test tone" to work. In the manual its says that it should work (exept in multi something) but in any other sorround mode it will work. Anyone else with the same problem??

And i have some news for you..

Front hight or center back it option :B

[IMG]Meny[/IMG]

Greatings from Norway =)

[Sackrat]

Hi Flateng My Grandmother is from Norway. Good info about the front height or center rear option. I have 7.1 configuration, 3fronts, 2sides, and 2 back's, and 2 subs so not configured for front height. However, it is good to have choices. :B

[eriblist]

I`ve got my new RSP 1572 yesterday, but i cant get "test tone" to work. In the manual its says that it should work (exept in multi something) but in any other sorround mode it will work. Anyone else with the same problem??

And i have some news for you..

Front hight or center back it option :B

[IMG]Meny[/IMG]

Greatings from Norway =)

I will believe it is a software error in your RSP-1572, contact your supplier

[Sackrat]

[QUOTE=Flateng]I`ve got my new RSP 1572 yesterday, but i cant get "test tone" to work. In the manual its says that it should work (exept in multi something) but in any other sorround mode it will work. Anyone else with the same problem??

Are you sure you have the amplifiers RCA's pluged into the "pre outs" and not into the "multi inputs" which are located right next to the outs? If you were in a hurry it would be easy to do.

[Flateng]

They are pluged in the "pre outs" so thats not the problem.

[srb]

As you noted, the tones will only work in a digital surround mode, but do not work in analog bypass mode. Is a surround mode indicated on the display?

Steve

[Flateng]

As you noted, the tones will only work in a digital surround mode, but do not work in analog bypass mode. Is a surround mode indicated on the display?

Steve

Yes it is.

[SirAtilla]

I have noticed the exact same problem. I ended up using a blu-ray tone utility to set the levels versus the test tones. I sent a note to B&W Group support a week ago and they have been silent so I plan to follow this week again. Unit has been working fine.

[Flateng]

I have noticed the exact same problem. I ended up using a blu-ray tone utility to set the levels versus the test tones. I sent a note to B&W Group support a week ago and they have been silent so I plan to follow this week again. Unit has been working fine.

OK, keep us updated :T

[Sackrat]

Just to follow up on my earlier post I have paired my iPhone thru bluetooth dongle to the Rotel as well as through an apple cable to USB port. Also I fed the Rotel SACD audio discs and DVD-A audio discs thru HDMI to the Rotel and it processed both no problem.

[Kal Rubinson]

When I play an SACD via HDMI and set the player to output PCM, it only works correctly if the output is 88.2kHz. If it is 176.4, the RSP-1572 displays it as Multichannel 176.4 but there is no sound output unless I tell the Rotel to downmix to stereo. Then, the display says "176.4 Multichannel D.mix" and the sound output is stereo only.

Anyone have any similar experience?

[hery19]

RSP-1572 Review

When I play an SACD via HDMI and set the player to output PCM, it only works correctly if the output is 88.2kHz. If it is 176.4, the RSP-1572 displays it as Multichannel 176.4 but there is no sound output unless I tell the Rotel to downmix to stereo. Then, the display says "176.4 Multichannel D.mix" and the sound output is stereo only.

Anyone have any similar experience?

Mr. Kal, will you be reviewing the RSP-1572 or is this your personal toy?

[SirAtilla]

An update on the test tones issue.

I talked with B&W support and they had a unit returned with the same issue. When they reset the unit to factory defaults the issue went away. So I sent them my setup from the Rotel Setup Config tool and we are going to do some more debugging.

I will continue to update on the issue.

[Kal Rubinson]

Mr. Kal, will you be reviewing the RSP-1572 or is this your personal toy?

What do you think? :W

[SirAtilla]

All,

I just received word from Rotel support that they have identified the issue where test tones quit working and they said a firmware fix will be available in the next two weeks.

[Flateng]

All,

I just received word from Rotel support that they have identified the issue where test tones quit working and they said a firmware fix will be available in the next two weeks.

Thank you for the information :T

[Sackrat]

I must correct my statement on post number 37. All of that statement is correct except playing SACD audio discs thru HDMI. The Rotel will play it but it is a stereo feed and my default is to DTS NEO 6. In my haste to get everything up and running I overlooked this fact. However it does sound very good. The Rotel has SACD multi inputs for those that would want to optimize hookup for SACD. DVD-A audio discs thru HDMI are processed correctly. Sorry bout the confusion. SACD is not high on my priority list so I can live without.

[Kal Rubinson]

I must correct my statement on post number 37. All of that statement is correct except playing SACD audio discs thru HDMI. The Rotel will play it but it is a stereo feed and my default is to DTS NEO 6. In my haste to get everything up and running I overlooked this fact. However it does sound very good. The Rotel has SACD multi inputs for those that would want to optimize hookup for SACD. DVD-A audio discs thru HDMI are processed correctly. Sorry bout the confusion. SACD is not high on my priority list so I can live without.

What player are you using? The SACD/HDMI output resolution is critical.