Disappointing PQ on RDV-1050

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  • Stephan
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 16

    Disappointing PQ on RDV-1050

    I recently got a great deal on an RSX-1056 and an RDV-1050. I'm totally satisfied with the receiver but the picture quality produced by the DVD-player is a real bummer. I have the european version and use a scart cable to connect the player to an RGB input on my Sony CRT. I also tried the S-Video cable with pretty much the same result. The picture on my 4 year old Pioneer DV-350 is way better. Did I get a lemon? Please share your experience.
  • foeth
    Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 85

    #2
    You may want to try component video. I switched from scart (plus tuner, I admit for the plasma) to component and the quality was much better. I have no experience with that particular player though,

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    • Stephan
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 16

      #3
      Hi foeth,

      Thanks for your reply. I don't think it will work for me though. My tv can't handle component signal. :cry:

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      • sirbogey
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 346

        #4
        did you try S-Video? I own the RDV1060, the picture quality is very similar and should be excellent. Try hooking it up to a differen TV as well.

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        • Stephan
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 16

          #5
          Hi sirbogey,

          Did you do a comparison to the 1050? For all I know the 1060 has a 12 bit/54 Mhz video-DAC while the 1050 has a 10 bit/27Mhz. Therefore I doubt that the pq is the same on both machines.

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          • sirbogey
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 346

            #6
            You might be right. I haven't compared it myself with my own gear, but I saw the 1050 at a friends' place. He had it hooked up to a projector, like I do, and the quality was the same. We both use S-Video. To test stuff, I sometimes buy very cheap gear (around $100) on ebay, compare it to mine and sell it on. Why don't you take your 1050 to a friend's house and hook it up to his/her TV or borrow another DVD Player. Alternatively, bring it to any dealer to run a quick check.

            But in majority of picture quality issues, it's the cables. Scart is really down the line, then there is composite, s-video, and the best is component. Of course, these days there are HDMI cables.

            At least try to exchange the Scart cable.

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            • sirbogey
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 346

              #7
              on another note, how do you hook up your 1050 to your 1056? To my knowledge, the 1056 doesn't have a scart outlet.

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              • Stephan
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 16

                #8
                I got my player hooked up directly to my tv. The less interference in the video signal path, the better in my opinion. I use the scart connection because that is considered the best option, slightly better than S-video and far superior to composite. Component should be better than scart. But CRT tv's don't have component inputs, at least not where I live, so I haven't had the opportunity to test the component output (yet). It really surprises me that you classify scart as 'down the line'.

                As for my scart cable. It's a reasonable, good quality cable which transports a great picture from my €199 Pio to my Sony CRT. The RDV-1050 just performs less, and that to me is disappointing for a €799 player.

                Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts, very much appreciated :T
                Last edited by Stephan; 16 May 2006, 15:02 Tuesday. Reason: typo

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                • Kevin D
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 4601

                  #9
                  What are you seeing (or not seeing)? There may be some settings that can be tweaked. I know the sharpness setting needs to be on 1 or 2. 3 & 0 look terrible.

                  Kevin D.

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                  • Stephan
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 16

                    #10
                    Hi Kevin,

                    You're spot on. It is the lack of sharpness that bugs me. I used the 'Digital Video Essentials' DVD to optimize my settings. The sharpest picture is when sharpness is set to level 3 and that's just not sharp enough. I would say a step or two extra would do it, but that's not an option

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                    • Kevin D
                      Ultra Senior Member
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 4601

                      #11
                      On mine sharpness 3 kills the picture and 0 is a lot worse. Trying running it on 2 for a bit and see if it's better. I guess what I'm saying is 3 is sharper then 2 but does something to the picture I can't stand.

                      Kevin D.

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                      • Stephan
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 16

                        #12
                        I guess I'm gonna stick with the Pioneer DV-350, sell the 1050 and get a nice cd-player instead. It'll kill the 'looks' of my set though...

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                        • weijst
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 282

                          #13
                          I have had my RDV1050ES (European version) for about two months now. At purchase I compared it extensively to a RDV1060. There was no doubt; the RDV1050 simply gave a superior picture. I came from a Marantz DV6400 and all I can say is, regarding PQ, the RDV10650 is at least on par with this player.

                          Bottomline, I am very happy with my RDV1050.

                          Maybe you got a faulty unit. I would try bringing it back to the store and ask for a new one.

                          Good luck
                          Marantz SR7005, UD5007; B&W SCMS, Nautilus SCM1; Velodyne SPL-1200R

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                          • Stephan
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Thanks! That sounds hopeful. How did you set up your player? Which output do you use? What kind of monitor, a crt tv, a projector? Progressive scan yes/no? I know, I know, lots of questions, but I'd very much like to get it right.

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                            • weijst
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 282

                              #15
                              Actually I use none of the more advanced connection options; here goes:
                              - Output: SCART
                              - Monitor: 32" Sony CRT TV, 100 Hz (nothing special here)
                              - No progressive scan (can't wait to try this one out on a future LCD...)
                              - Sound: coaxial digital out

                              See, no surprises here. I really think you ought to consider changing your unit for another one...

                              For more info on the cables I'm using, see my public profile...
                              Marantz SR7005, UD5007; B&W SCMS, Nautilus SCM1; Velodyne SPL-1200R

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                              • Stephan
                                Junior Member
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 16

                                #16
                                Wow, you're exactly describing my setup. Thanks for your input. :T I'm starting to give in to the fact that maybe you're right about my 1050. I think I'm gonna have me a little chat with my supplierrrrrrr :evil:

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