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  • chinets
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 855

    #1

    Imp. Question for Rotel RDV-1060 owners!!!!

    For all Rotel RDV-1060 Owners: My question is that I bought for the first time a DVD Audio ( Diana Krall...Jazz) and put it in my RDV-1060 that is processed through a Rotel 1065 5.1 Amp 1t 5x100W and to my surprise the RDV-1060 would not play the DVD Audio I bought. The 1060 clearly states that it accepts and should play DVD Audio. The DVD I bought also states that it will play on any DVD component and will play on any DVD Audio component and that is exactly what the Rotel 1060 will accept and play, but why does it not play on the Rotel. When I put the DVD in the 1060 it will go to the text or Main Menu where I would have a choice to select either Surround Dolby or Stereo or Video etc. When I press any of the Surround or Stereo it will go to a second page where the DVD should play the Surround Music as selected and it does show on the Menu that I have entered that area but it will not play any music ,but at the bottom of the page there is Gallery, Lyrics, captions or even Video and the Rotel Will play all that but not play the music. Funny it can play the small Video section but NOT the Music selected. I tried this same DVD on a top quality SONY DVD player and it did not go through the first text page or main menue such as the Rotel 1060, however, it went by default into the Music page and selected Surround Dolby Digital on the processor and Played all the Music but it did not have all the Gallery,Captions, lyrics at the bottom only the Video part. I tried this DVD on a cheap SONY too and it played the same way. Why can't the Rotel 1060 detect the Music and just get stuck in Prologic 2 and can't go into Dolby Digital and play the music. I can't play anything on that DVD except the Video and the other extras it had. What is wrong with the Rotel? I tried everything in the Rotel 1060 set up to see if it can play and to no avail ,also I tried every mode on the processor 1065 such as 5 channel, Multi input, Multi mode and all DSP and again to no avail. Can anyone tell me what Is wrong or am I doing somehting wrong or is the Rotel Faulty or what is the problem. The Rotel plays all the DVDs I have that are Video and Video DVD concerts and normal Music CD's but not DVD AUDIO???? so I know the Rotel is working well but this was the first time I bought a DVD AUDIO and it won't read it. I know I could play it on the SONY but what is the point of having the Rotel that states that it should play DVD AUDIO and it doesn't. WOW DVD AUDIO is soooooo clear on the Sony ...How will that sound on the Rotel... can't wait for someone to guide me as I can't wait to hear Diana Krall on the Rotel because it should sound amazing. Please Help and Thanks for listening!!! Have a wonderful day Guys!!!!!!!!!!!
  • fordster
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 211

    #2
    I didn't think Sony did DVDA (seeing as they invented SACD)? Does the RDV-1060's DVD Audio light come on when the disc is loaded? It sounds like the Sony is playing the Dolby Digital mix for standard DVD players which is what will happen when the disc is put into a non DVDA player. There have been problems with RDV-1060's playing certain DVDA discs but I though Diana Krall discs were usually okay. Do a search on this forum for DVDA problems on RDV-1060 and you should find a few threads with more info. The usual fix is for a firmware update to the player.
    Dave

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    • jim777
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 831

      #3
      Much of the audio will play with the digital coax, but for DVDA, were the 6 analog RCA's plugged to your processor? (then in multi-input mode I think).

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      • chinets
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 855

        #4
        Yes ,Sony does DVDA players with multi purpose function such as SACD,Jpeg,MP3 and DVD Audio etc... And yes Fordster the light of the RDV-1060 lights up in blue when I put the DVDA of Diana Krall in the RDV-1060 . However, the RDV-1060 should have played it like the Sony and enter into the Dolby Digital Mix as the DVDA clearly states for all DVD machines...Whats the problem here!!!! Thanks, Fordster for your tip and will do a forum search to check this out. Thanks pal for insight..Have a wonderful day!!!! The Rotel is not playing any DVDA that I have purchased today, by the way, not just Krall!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • chinets
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 855

          #5
          Jim777...sorry I did not connect the system myself so I have no idea what you are talking about because the technical part of this is not my forte at all. Basically, the B&W/Rotel dealer set it up himself, and he has left on vacation for three weeks and there is nobody at the dealer that connect a plug in an outlet so I am depending on people like you who could lead this blind man with Lay man terms. I appreciate your help and attention, but could you lead me into this step by step as I can't answer you on what you wrote as I have no idea of what connections I personally have.

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          • jim777
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 831

            #6
            Look at the lower left side of the back of the player
            http://www.rotel.com/support/pdfs/dr...rdv1060-bk.pdf

            Is there 6 RCA cables going from the "5.1 Analog Out" connectors to your A/V ?

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            • DelRay
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 369

              #7
              As Jim has stated. To take full advantage of DVD-A, you must use the 6 channel analog out from the dvd player to the multi in on the 1065. As far as Sony dvd players able to do dvd-a, not possible in hi-rez. Just dolby digital. However, the dvd-a should still be able to play through the toslink with DD. Recheck all the settings in the 1060. And the dvd-a menus should have a selection for DD.

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              • Mark_C.
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2003
                • 386

                #8
                What, the dealer just closed up shop or something? There's no one there at the dealer who can help you. There's not another Rotel dealer available to you? You have no understanding of the equipment you bought or how it's set up? You are blind and we, your guides, must try to lead to from darkness with only our words? I predict a very looooong thread.

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                • Mark_C.
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 386

                  #9
                  By the way, Sony does not offer DVD-A players of any kind.

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                  • chinets
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 855

                    #10
                    MarK C ...Yes the Rotel/B & W Dealer closed shop as he took his vacation for a month and the person who is taking his place has no technical background and yes the closest Rotel dealer to me is about three hours by jet plane In Dubai so that could answer your question. I live in Saudi Arabia for work at this moment, and the dealer a Phillippino, has left for his anual vacation. I called the technical support of Rotel in the U.K. and he knows that the dealer has left for a month and he is trying to help me by phone. The dealer here doesn't give a damn whether you buy from him or not as most of their money comes from major contracts to set up HT systems for princes here in their palaces where they pay 6 million dollars for the whole palce set up..and you think this guy would want to go out of his way just because I bought the 800 series from him... I guess not. I am not a technician but I love to listen to music, and I'm not an avid component fan that likes to be curious and play with their equipment etc.. I just have the guy set it which is in the wall and very hard to pull out ,so I have no clue on how to connect componenets etc.. except the simple stuff. That is why I am in this forum. I am an amateur music fan that likes good quality music and speakers and not an electrical engineer here. That is why I'm asking for your help, no more or no less. If you don't want to help then that is your proogative, but don't critisize someone unless you know what is his position and are in his shoes...sorry but that should be your reflection for the day..as not everyone knows as much as you do, and probably there are things that I know more than you..That is Life!!!! So if you want to help shoot!!! If you have nothing to say, then don't say it or critisize a person ,unless you are in his shoes my friend. And finally, the Japanese market sell Sony's that are not sold in the U.S. and are sold here and they do 100% have Sony DVDA players..If you want I'll scan the picture for you and that will calm you down. Actually Sony make 5 DVDA types of models here so that should prove my point. I guess I'm going to get a long thread from Mr. Mark C. too, but I am only answering your critisizm that should not be done on this forum. Respect is what is needed my friend. Mutual respect and the world be a better place to live in.

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                    • fordster
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 211

                      #11
                      True DVD Audio should not be processed as Dolby Digital and can't be sent via Digital (well, not on a RDV-1060 anyway) so I supect that as Jim says the 6 analogue cables have not been connected to the amp. My guess (without seeing it) is that the Sony is going via the digital connection. What input is the amp set to? My RDV-1060 also outputs the DVDA signal on the standard stereo analogue outputs (obviously only the Front left and right) so if you have these cabled up (appreciate you may not know this seeing as you didn't cable the system) you may get sound from this. To be honest it sounds like you're a bit stuck until your dealer comes back from his holiday unless you can get at the back of either the amp or DVD player to see what is cabled. Only thing I can suggest is that you go through the menu settings on both the amp and player, make a note of them and post them onto the forum. Then maybe somebody can spot a possible configuration error?
                      Dave

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                      • chinets
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 855

                        #12
                        I respect your prompt answer. I can play normal CD on my Rotel 1060 and can view DVD any time but not the DVDA form. My Rotel 1060 is connected in Digital form to my Rotel 1065 as you requested. The Amp is set to digital too. I tried Multi Input on my Receiver but to no avail ,and as you and Jim have suggested I think it is the 6 analogue cables, but as I have no clue about cables and set ups as I did not connect anything and I have no idea of what cables are at the back ,except that I paid an arm and a leg for all the connections. I am not lazy, it's just that I'm not into connections and cables etc..and I believe will never be interested in that area. I apprecaite great systems and good music that's it...sorry but I guess you are 100% right..I'll have to wait for my dealer to get back just like the technical support in the U.K. have told me..Thanks Fordster for your kind help and attention I really appreciate your valuable time. Have a wonderful day!!!!!

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                        • w6000
                          Member
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 32

                          #13
                          Just a few things Chinets. In order to use DVD audio on Rotel products you must use the 6 analog multi inputs. Also, Sony does not make DVD Audio players, thier own website confirms this. and lastly you should not get upset at people who are trying to help you, but you should read the manual that comes with the Rotel 1060. This is kind of like teaching someone to drive and having to show them where the steering wheel is.
                          Last edited by w6000; 05 July 2005, 15:36 Tuesday.

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                          • chinets
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 855

                            #14
                            W6000 I think you are right as the technical support in the U.K.suggest that too as you can see what he wroteear Chinets,



                            Thank you for your comments however, it is not clear from your email whether the multi-outputs from your DVD player are connected to the multi-input of the RSX-1065, which is required for MLP playback as I believe this to be the problem. As discussed on the phone earlier, I will contact Joe from Audio Tec to establish your exact set-up.



                            In the mean time If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me.



                            Best Regards,

                            Scott.

                            Sony does have DVDA palyers I have two and I promise to Scan this for you when I take a picture of my two models that I just bought and have at home. Sorry but that's the truth!!! As for being upset..I am not upset as Mr. Mark C. is the one who has thrown some uneducated guesses about me when he does not even know me and as you read what he wrote " I predict a very Looooong thread" after he wrote his comments, doesn't that just show you he was in this to critisize instead of help..please be fair and here.. I am a lawyer and I know what subtle words between the lines mean and I know what fair is and believe me he was not helping me but on the contrary telling me how dumb not to know your system. I read the Manual back and forth but I have no idea about connections and plus all my equipment is imbedded in the wall and very difficult to access so if I pulled a wire out by accident I would have to wait three weeks to listen to music ,so I'd rather not listen to DVDA until my dealer is back than be sorry..That's it in a nut shell!! Really I'm not upset just find Mr. Mark'sc comments a little on the demeaning and insultive side don't you agree????
                            Thanks w6000 for your kind comments. and I apprecaiate all your kind help. Regards, chinets.

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                            • sprout
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 136

                              #15
                              Hi,

                              What was the outcome for you when your dealer returned from holiday?

                              What did he do advise?

                              sprout

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                              • chinets
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 855

                                #16
                                Dear Mr. Sprout,
                                Believe it or not the dealer has not come back yet although I am told by the technicians at B & W / Rotel in the U.K. headquarters that he should be in his shop by the 20th of July. So I have nothing yet to say, but I promise I will keep you posted on the outcome. Thanks for inquiring, that is very kind of you and I really appreciate it.
                                Have a wonderful weekend,
                                Chinets

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