Sub suggestions

[Palforever]

Since the ASW 825,855 is no more in productions what will be the next best match for the 803s.Thanks

[swayback]

just my two cents...

i've been looking in to this for months and literally just paid for a JL Audio Fathom 113. I wanted to stay within the B&W family but have heard there is no comparison. Good luck.

[brunsje]

JL Audio rocks!!

You won't be sorry buying any JL Audio subwoofer. I have two F112's.

Cheers, JohnnyB

[htsteve]

Palforever,

Another vote for JL Audio. I have an F112. Awesome sub.


Hope this helps.

[leej]

Would the F112 be enough to fill a large room? - about 4000 cu.ft.

[brunsje]

Suggestions

For your size room, you'll need two F112's as a minimum.

[htsteve]

Would the F112 be enough to fill a large room? - about 4000 cu.ft.

I'm not sure if a single F112 would fill that size room with the performance you would want. It depends a lot on the room. Is it sealed? And open walls where bass can leak out? You can call JL Audio and talk to them about your room, setup, etc. I did that when I was looking into the Fathom line. They were quite helpful.

I notice you have an M&K V-125. Would you be getting the F112 in addition to the M&K (I like M&K sub's. Used to own some). If yes, then I think would would be in very good shape by adding an F-112 to the mix.

From a consistent performance and synergy view, you might consider doing two F112's (& selling the M&K). Also, JL has an F212. Essentially a pair of F112's in a single cabinet (but costs alot more than the F112). That might work very nicely in your room.

There is also the F113, a bigger version of the F112. Doesn't cost too much more than the F112, but is about 1/3 bigger in terms of displacement area. That might be a very nice solution for your room.

Any of the JL Audios as a straight swap with the M&K would see a very nice jump in quality and depth.

Hope this helps.

[wettou]

Palforever

Get a pair of F113

[leej]

Thanks. I was wondering how the combination with the MK might work, as my budget won't allow for 2 JL's. One is stretching it pretty thin. I've been told that the difference between the two might degrade the better sub, instead of improving (by someone trying to sell 2). I was just wondering how much more output I could expect from the F112, since I'm having a hard time finding a dealer to audition one.
As for the room, it has another large opening into a dining room, so more than likely, I'd need to look at multiple subs. I considered SVS, after hearing so many good reviews (and price), but I don't think a vented sub is what I want. Looking at their upcoming sealed boxes, I wonder how they will compare to the JL.

[emig5m]

Always buy the most sub you can fit into your room/budget IMO.

[jericho]

JL Audio also has the F 212 or the Gotham Sub!! 2*12" or 2*13" drivers. Top of the line!

[htsteve]

leej,

Given your room description, two subs would seem to be the correct path. That's alot of space, with areas that leak out.

As to output, the Fathom series is pretty awesome. My F112 replaced a Velodyne DD18 (a very good sub with an 18" driver). The F112 was better in every respect. Tremendous output. And an amazing level of refinement. Really a reference level sub.



Hope this helps.

[Horacio]

leej,

If you know you are getting a new sub, why not get an F112 and try for yourself the F112 on its own and F112 + M&K together? That would tell you if the F112 is for you and if 2 subs is better, and if the M&K degrades the combo. If it does, later on add a second F112.

Multiple subs also has the added benefit of allowing for more degrees of freedom to flatten your room frequency response in the under 150 Hz, which is a region dominated by the room and where the drivers sit. That's another reason for having 2 subs instead of a larger one.

I also vote for JL (having REL).

Horacio

[leej]

The 2 sub idea sounds like the way I need to go and the F112 seems to be a great sub. Surprisingly, the MK is almost adequate, but lacks that extra punch for movies, so adding a F112 should get me there.
Thanks.

[sunshdw]

I went with a dual sub set up rather than one B&W and wondered why I didn't do that before. Rather than just add the F112, in my opinion, you should sell the M&K and buy 2 F112 to keep it the same brand and characteristics. Just my .02

[Race Car Driver]

I am going to pick up a Def Tech Trinity here in the future. I have always wanted to give that beast a shot. :T

My dream is the JL G213 however ;x(