802D placement

[ray5]

Hi!
I am thinking of getting the 802D's. Just worried about it's weight indenting and scratching my hardwood floors. What have you guys done to get around this? Do you put anything underneath it? Will that affect the acoustics? Thanks,
Ray

[Relentless]

They are on casters and will roll on the hardwood floor. You can buy the spike kit and use the rubber side of the spikes if you are afraid of them rolling around. I hope you have an area rug or plan on getting one due to the bad reflections that will incur off of a hardwood floor. You can get a couple pieces of oak and have them stained the same as the floor and take the casters off the 802D's and just place them on the boards ..... just a few suggestions.

[hifiguymi]

I would not roll them across a hardwood floor. You will more than likely leave tracks in the wood. I would look at getting a furniture pad and some cardboard to move them. Once they are in place you can use a pad of some sort under the casters to keep them from denting the floor.

Eric

[ray5]

Would you recommend something soft ot hard like a piece of granite or marble, of course large enough. What are the dimensions of the base?
Ray

[wettou]

They are on casters and will roll on the hardwood floor.

Don't you will kill your floor, my solution was to by these casters at home depot that can be put under furniture and just slide them. Works like a charm and won't scratch your floors!!

You can buy the spike kit and use the rubber side of the spikes if you are afraid of them rolling around.

Send B&W your serial numbers they will send you the spikes for FREE as it should be :B

[Relentless]

Send B&W your serial numbers they will send you the spikes for FREE as it should be :B

When I had the 802D's they wanted me to pay for them but when I got the 800D's they were free.

[ray5]

Don't you will kill your floor, my solution was to by these casters at home depot that can be put under furniture and just slide them. Works like a charm and won't scratch your floors!!




Send B&W your serial numbers they will send you the spikes for FREE as it should be :B

Thanks. I'll ask my dealer and if not call B&W.
Ray

[multivac]

Send B&W your serial numbers they will send you the spikes for FREE as it should be :B

Erm, these spikes are sold separately !

[ray5]

Erm, these spikes are sold separately !

How much?

[Relentless]

If I recall correctly they wanted $180 for the eight spikes.... also contrary to what wettou thinks I was stating the speakers will roll on a hard wood floor not necessarily that you should roll them on the floor. You can also look into Sound Anchor stands for the speakers to protect your floor, but that would raise them more than the stock spike kit and cost more.

[ray5]

If I recall correctly they wanted $180 for the eight spikes.... also contrary to what wettou thinks I was stating the speakers will roll on a hard wood floor not necessarily that you should roll them on the floor. You can also look into Sound Anchor stands for the speakers to protect your floor, but that would raise them more than the stock spike kit and cost more.

Thanks guys! Will find out in the next few days and report back.
Ray

[multivac]

How much?

Well, they are expensive ( 500 euros in Europe ) but, in my opinion, performance-wise they worth the asking price !

[ray5]

Hi Guys,
Called B&W and the spike set is free but your dealer has to order them for you at no extra charge.Thanks,
Ray

[dknightd]

Will rolling the 802 around on a hardwood floor really hurt it?
I've got several hundred pounds of stuff supported by 4 small feet.
Last time I had to move it I didn't see any dents or damage to the floor.

I'm not sure I understand how using spikes (even rubber tipped) is going to cause less damage than using casters.

[Kal Rubinson]

Will rolling the 802 around on a hardwood floor really hurt it?
I've got several hundred pounds of stuff supported by 4 small feet.
Last time I had to move it I didn't see any dents or damage to the floor.

I'm not sure I understand how using spikes (even rubber tipped) is going to cause less damage than using casters.

Depends on the wood, of course. I see some trails but it is not in an area that matters.

[KyaDawn]

Erm, these spikes are sold separately !

Yes, I've also read that they are supposed to be an "optional" accessory, but when my dealer delivered my 802Ds, he included them with the delivery. I was wondering if he had made a mistake, but I surely wasn't going to correct him! :rofl:

Having said that, as I have stone floors, I've kept my pair on the rollers for now as I was experimenting with different placement and toe-in in the beginning, though I haven't moved them for a while. They are supposed to sound better with the spikes, but for me, risking cracking the speaker cabinet while I try to lay it on its side against the stone is too much of a risk for me to take, while I also like the option of being able to move them easily at any time when I feel like experimenting.

[ray5]

Yes, I've also read that they are supposed to be an "optional" accessory, but when my dealer delivered my 802Ds, he included them with the delivery. I was wondering if he had made a mistake, but I surely wasn't going to correct him! :rofl:

Having said that, as I have stone floors, I've kept my pair on the rollers for now as I was experimenting with different placement and toe-in in the beginning, though I haven't moved them for a while. They are supposed to sound better with the spikes, but for me, risking cracking the speaker cabinet while I try to lay it on its side against the stone is too much of a risk for me to take, while I also like the option of being able to move them easily at any time when I feel like experimenting.

The spikes are free, you only have to ask the dealer. Most of the time they don't come with the speakers but sometimes like in your case it does. As far as usage my dealer says he has never installed them in hundreds of pairs of 802D's that he has installed. But again, it is a personal preferrence. It's good to have them in case you want to experiment and decide for yourself.

Ray

[KyaDawn]

The spikes are free, you only have to ask the dealer. Most of the time they don't come with the speakers but sometimes like in your case it does. As far as usage my dealer says he has never installed them in hundreds of pairs of 802D's that he has installed. But again, it is a personal preferrence. It's good to have them in case you want to experiment and decide for yourself.

Ray

That may be something B&W does quietly with the dealers, but in the owner's manual, the "Spike Foot Kit" is described as "optional". I actually read in another forum an owner claiming his dealer wanted to charge him 300 euros for the kits! :twisted:

[ray5]

That may be something B&W does quietly with the dealers, but in the owner's manual, the "Spike Foot Kit" is described as "optional". I actually read in another forum an owner claiming his dealer wanted to charge him 300 euros for the kits! :twisted:

You're right. The manual says that and some forum members said it was free.That's why I called B&W and that's what they said. I still have to call my dealer, which I'll do today and let you know what he said. Thanks.
Ray

[ray5]

That may be something B&W does quietly with the dealers, but in the owner's manual, the "Spike Foot Kit" is described as "optional". I actually read in another forum an owner claiming his dealer wanted to charge him 300 euros for the kits! :twisted:

Reporting back. The spike set are free with a new 802D's. B&W will send them to the dealer once the serial numbers and color are sent to them and the dealer will send it to you. If you buy used one there is a charge.What gets to me is why the hoopla? Why don't they send it anyway with new speakers? They have the color and serial numbers. Is it just being cheap and a sorry attempt at saving some some bucks for folks who don't know?
I placed my order and am now biting nails!! :B
Ray

[Lewisimo]

Can you not buy the spike kit and then some little metal feet for the spikes to protect your wooden floor as I have done? Pic below to help you!



I know mine aren't AS heavy but you should be able to do something similar dude?

[htsteve]

I placed my order and am now biting nails!! :B
Ray

Ray,

I assume this means the 802D's. Congratulations and welcome the the 802 club. They will sound great out of the box. And then they will break in and sound even better.

Post some pictures when you get them.


Steve

[wettou]

That may be something B&W does quietly with the dealers, but in the owner's manual, the "Spike Foot Kit" is described as "optional". I actually read in another forum an owner claiming his dealer wanted to charge him 300 euros for the kits! :twisted:

Real honest dealer you got there!! THEY ARE FREE and yes B&W doesn't advertise it so they can save some Money !!

[ray5]

Ray,

I assume this means the 802D's. Congratulations and welcome the the 802 club. They will sound great out of the box. And then they will break in and sound even better.

Post some pictures when you get them.


Steve

Yeah Steve,
802D's. Placed the order for the 803D and then my dealer gave me a great deal, put them on hold,took sometime and went for the 802D's! Will post some pictures as soon as I get hem.
Ray

[KyaDawn]

Real honest dealer you got there!! THEY ARE FREE and yes B&W doesn't advertise it so they can save some Money !!

Well not my dealer, MY dealer gave them to me free-of-charge without me even asking for them, I was talking about someone on another forum who claimed his dealer tried to charge him 300 euros! :E

[KyaDawn]

Yeah Steve,
802D's. Placed the order for the 803D and then my dealer gave me a great deal, put them on hold,took sometime and went for the 802D's! Will post some pictures as soon as I get hem.
Ray

Congratulations Ray! Good to see you got a good deal and I'm pretty much guaranteeing you won't regret your choice...I sure don't! :B

[ray5]

Congratulations Ray! Good to see you got a good deal and I'm pretty much guaranteeing you won't regret your choice...I sure don't! :B

Thanks.
I am hoping to get them soon! One last question about the spike set, do they come with the rubber feet? Are they kind of reversible, that you can use either the spike or rubber end?
Ray

[kmcheng]

Thanks.
I am hoping to get them soon! One last question about the spike set, do they come with the rubber feet? Are they kind of reversible, that you can use either the spike or rubber end?
Ray

Yes, both the spikes and the rubber feet have screw heads which you use to attach them to the speakers. So you can swap them out however many times you want.

I personally would just leave the speakers as is -- on whatever feet they are currently on. Breaking my back is not a risk I want to take for my audio craze. I already broke my bank balance.

[ray5]

Yes, both the spikes and the rubber feet have screw heads which you use to attach them to the speakers. So you can swap them out however many times you want.

I personally would just leave the speakers as is -- on whatever feet they are currently on. Breaking my back is not a risk I want to take for my audio craze. I already broke my bank balance.

. What did you finally get? I remember you thinking of the 802D or 803D's too.
Ray

[kmcheng]

I ended up getting the 803D. I had a decent listening session at the dealers and could not really tell the difference between the two. Now I am sure if I listen long enough I will be able to convince myself that there is a difference and therefore I need the 802D. However, I also know that the marlin head would definitely not be appreciated by my wife.

[ray5]

I ended up getting the 803D. I had a decent listening session at the dealers and could not really tell the difference between the two. Now I am sure if I listen long enough I will be able to convince myself that there is a difference and therefore I need the 802D. However, I also know that the marlin head would definitely not be appreciated by my wife.

You're right there. My wife is a bit unsure of the marlan heads too but once she hears them I am certain she'll be converted. As I mentioned above I was very impressed with the 803D and put in an order and then the tempting offer by the dealer put me over the cliff! and so made the plunge for the 802D's. Congratulations and happy listening!
Ray

[bigburner]

Will rolling the 802 around on a hardwood floor really hurt it?

I live in New Zealand (a land of trees) but my floors are made of North American Oregon. This timber is so soft you can mark it with your thumb nail. On the plus side I've dropped a crystal glass on my floor and it has bounced.

Nigel.

[William]

Thanks.
I am hoping to get them soon! One last question about the spike set, do they come with the rubber feet? Are they kind of reversible, that you can use either the spike or rubber end?
Ray

Here is a picture with the spikes down and plastic to the top (803D's spikes on the left for comparison).

[ray5]

Here is a picture with the spikes down and plastic to the top (803D's spikes on the left for comparison).

Super, Thanks a lot.
Ray