I feel the grills on the 683's are the cheapest I have ever seen.I have broken 2 pins on each speaker cab And I just replaced the grills and now have broken pins again.Sometimes when I watch a bluray that has a lot of bass , I can actually feel the air in my seating position from the flow port.Is this really enough air or vibration from the woofers to break the pins?I take extra care when removing the grills so am pretty sure it is not me breaking them.I can always tell when a pin on one of the grills is broken as the grill will vibrate against the cabs.Any ideas on how to securely keep the grills fastened.I think I may just leave the grills off as they also seem to interfere with sound as there is plastic that is in front of the drivers.Very piss poor grills.Anyone else have problems with the 683 grills.Thanks.
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I leave my grills off now. No chance of breaking pins.
It's wierd you are having problems. In all my years with B&W, I've had one pin split. Other than that, they've been fine. I wouldn't think the speaker performance (i.e. air from flowport) is damaging the pins.
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Do you leave the grills off all the time .I live in the desert and worry about dust.Originally posted by htsteve
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All the time. Mine are in a dedicated room. Fortunately, dust is not a big issue. I still dust the speakers fairly regularly.
I believe there are some dust reducing machines that you could look into.Comment
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A fine camel's hair paint brush will take care of the dust. :T My grills are permanent closet residents.Originally posted by Opus007Comment
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Thanks William.I will pick one up today and leave the grills off.Sounds much better this way too.Originally posted by WilliamComment
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Looks much better too.Originally posted by Opus007
Just be sure not to use anything on the brush and dust them often (in your case) so dust doesn't build up and will get pushed into the materiel.Comment
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Gotcha.ThanksOriginally posted by WilliamComment
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If you still have those broken plastic pins, use some Krazy Glue to attach them back. They will never come off again.Comment
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I did that with the last set of grills and they still broke ...but maybe I did not glue them well enough.And just got through doing that yesterday on the new ones.Thanks.Originally posted by speakerboyComment
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One drop at each contact point should do it....assuming you have the OFFICIAL Krazy Glue.Originally posted by Opus007
(i.e. there's a guy with his hardhat stuck to a metal bar) Apply drop, connect the two, apply pressure for 30-60 seconds, then let dry for a few hours. I had a few pins that broke on my former HTM1 when it accidentally turned face down..they never came off since.
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Looks like I may be using to much glue as I saturated it with the glue and yes the original krazy glue.Originally posted by speakerboyOne drop at each contact point should do it....assuming you have the OFFICIAL Krazy Glue. (i.e. there's a guy with his hardhat stuck to a metal bar) Apply drop, connect the two, apply pressure for 30-60 seconds, then let dry for a few hours. I had a few pins that broke on my former HTM1 when it accidentally turned face down..they never came off since.Comment
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Every 600 series speaker at my dealer has broken grill pins...Comment
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Originally posted by Opus007
I know that superglue will not work on certain plastics, just wonder if your grills are made of one of those that it wont work on?
You can get some stuff called plastic weld that will work, it sets up in about 5 minutes. You can get it black so it will blend in.
Robert P. 8)
AKA "Soundgravy"
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Will see if the super glue holds this time.Well probably doesn't matter now as I am going to leave the grills off and only put them on if the speakers are not in use.Thanks.Comment
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Grill pins should not break off if the grill is carefully removed and installed.
If you rip it off, or force it on, then all bets are off. If the plastic is 15 years
old then it might get brittle. Your speakers are new - you need to find out
how the pins are being broken. It could be they are defective - then b&w
should provide you with new ones. Or it could be you are bending them
when taking on or off - if so, be more careful, or, leave them on or off.
You do have to be a little careful of them - they are just thin plastic (I suspect
not designed to be removed and reinstalled too often.Comment
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Point well taken...will be more careful in the future as I agree they should not break so easily.I must admit though that the grills on the 683's are very cheaply made.Originally posted by dknightdComment
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I break pins all the time. Super glue puts them back on.
I actually bought new grilles from B&W, and the fabric is a little loose.Comment
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I have 3 sets of other speakers and have never broken a pin on any of those grills and have taken them on and off more times than i can count.The ones on the 683's are very small and the whole grill is by no way sturdy but rather flimsy.Comment
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Magnets?
I wonder if anyone has done a DIY magnetic grille conversion?
It's conceivable to use a router, dremel tool or even a drill bit to carve out small holes in the speaker enclosure and grille cover then glue small magnets into them. With 4 or 6 of these magnets the grille should stay.Comment
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I do not think this would be a option as it would probably void the warranty.Now on the other hand if you warranty is already void and you never plan on upgrading or selling then it could be a option.Originally posted by fhsunComment
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Good point. This sounds like a potential design or manufacturing issue that B&W needs to know about.Originally posted by dknightd
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I did some extensive A/B stuff the other day. Grills on Grills off. Well, I'm not sure if I could truly tell a difference. But, a few times I "thought" I did. So, what does that mean? Well, it means that since I think I might be able to tell the difference, I don't think I can leave the grills...On47.62%20Off52.38%22 -
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Hey Gang...many of you have witnessed my theater construction and I greatly appreciate all your support, feedback, and comments....so in that light I ask for your help once more.
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I love the look and sound of the HTM3s and 803s with grills off. I however always put it back when i finish listening to music so to keep it "clean" and "protected".My HT room is OW kids free/wife free/smoke free/ direct sunlihght free......
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Seems a given that because of the way we hear relative to SPL ( Fletcher Munsen / Robertson Dadson ), combined with playback technology and the listening rooms effect on reproduced sound, recorded music played through speakers with a flat measured frequency response is almost guaranteed to sound wrong....
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