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  • ray5
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 444

    B&W discount

    Hi! The two dealers I have spoken to are not going beyond a 15% discount on the retail price. Is that what is normal or should I push for more? My total purchase is around 13 grand.
  • joetama
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 786

    #2
    I would think that is pretty typical. I know one of the dealers around here wouldn't go any less than 10% and the other is currently out of business.
    -Joe

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    • wgriel
      Senior Member
      • May 2006
      • 241

      #3
      I'd say 15% is great! I typically get closer to about 12% with my purchases, though it does depend.

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      • htsteve
        Super Senior Member
        • Sep 2004
        • 1216

        #4
        ray5,

        In my experience, 5-10% is typical, 15% is quite good on new equipment.
        Used and demo's are of course a different price structure.


        Hope this helps.

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        • ray5
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 444

          #5
          Thanks

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          • Ken49r
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 312

            #6
            15% is great! They won't go below that unless it's a special promotion or clearance item.

            I got my RSP-1069 cheaper than my dealer will be able to sell his demo unit considering, he ordered mine when Rotel lowered the price to clear out remaining stock for the new 15 series.

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            • Relentless
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 317

              #7
              Originally posted by Ken49r
              15% is great! They won't go below that.
              I guess my dealer really likes me.
              I refuse to tip-toe through life only to arrive safely at death...
              Lou

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              • Russ L
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 544

                #8
                Originally posted by Relentless
                I guess my dealer really likes me.
                Me as well. If you are ordering the soon to be discontinued 700 series you might be able to get more off if the dealer's distributor has any specials available.
                Regards,
                Russ

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                • Allegiance
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 247

                  #9
                  I get 20-25% but the company I used to work for bought heaps of gear through them so that helped :P

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                  • style
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1562

                    #10
                    Hi,

                    In Switzerland the B&W (Rotel/Classe/B&W) Dealer may sell the goods to the max. with 6% 8O 8O
                    If B&W "main house" discovers more discounts the dealer does not receive more goods and out of business

                    This of the paper... :W

                    Style

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                    • HedgeHog
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 241

                      #11
                      In pricing out a set of 802D, HTM2D, 805S, and ASW855, I was told that I "might" get 10% off. B&W really discourages any discounts. If I need to get warranty done and need to submit my invoice, it will get the dealer in trouble if it shows a lot of discount on their product.

                      Having said that, they told me if I were to get some electronics bundled in, some of those are more margins to play with; thereby, effectively increasing the package discount.
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                      • Gremal
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 195

                        #12
                        Buy more and save.

                        I think any B&W dealer offering gear for more than 10% off is selling you demo models.
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                        • joetama
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 786

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gremal
                          Buy more and save.

                          I think any B&W dealer offering gear for more than 10% off is selling you demo models.
                          When I got my RSP-1098 I got 30% off and my 703 were about 25% off... :T

                          I always ask if the display stuff is for sale.
                          -Joe

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                          • emig5m
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 646

                            #14
                            Originally posted by joetama
                            When I got my RSP-1098 I got 30% off and my 703 were about 25% off... :T

                            I always ask if the display stuff is for sale.
                            My dealer has let me take home any speaker I've requested as long as I swipe my credit card for insurance that I bring them back undamaged and receive full refund for the allowed time of the in home trial once I bring them back. They have also let me borrow display speakers to use until my orders of new speakers came in. I think I got 10% on all new speakers and 15% on floor/demo models (non of which where in perfectly pristine shape though - the 600 series grill spikes break off real easy if not taken off carefully).

                            The owner of my local B&W dealer seems to be real cool and a easy going guy compared to other stories I've heard of high end dealers where people have been talked down to, phones hung on them, refusing to even play a set of 800's if no deposit was put down up front, no discounts at all, forcing products out of peoples budget ranges, etc... I was picking up a order of speakers and he was assisting a older couple that obviously didn't know much at all about hi-fi and only wanted a simple wall mount/in wall system and not one time did he try to force higher end products or talk in audiophile lingo and explained everything in a very simple easy to understand way.

                            As a matter of fact, even after calling and saying I was just going to keep the demo 683's (because I was so blown away by the sound quality the broken grills didn't bother that much at the time, but never owning a brand new pair of front mains and always winding up with floor models I just wanted all brand new for a change) about two/three weeks later after my purchase of the floor models was a done deal and wanting brand new ones, lol, I called up and asked if I could still get brand new speakers.... he ordered me brand new ones right away no questions asked and swapped me back for the floor demos when they came in, lol. :E Now that's what I call first class service! :T

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                            • emig5m
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 646

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                              In pricing out a set of 802D, HTM2D, 805S, and ASW855, I was told that I "might" get 10% off. B&W really discourages any discounts. If I need to get warranty done and need to submit my invoice, it will get the dealer in trouble if it shows a lot of discount on their product.

                              Having said that, they told me if I were to get some electronics bundled in, some of those are more margins to play with; thereby, effectively increasing the package discount.
                              Why would B&W themselves care if a dealer loses it's own profits to discounts? Doesn't the dealer take the hit of a discount and not B&W? Heck, with this economy a half a loaf of bread is much better than no loaf at all!

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                              • Race Car Driver
                                Super Senior Member
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1537

                                #16
                                Originally posted by emig5m
                                Why would B&W themselves care if a dealer loses it's own profits to discounts? Doesn't the dealer take the hit of a discount and not B&W? Heck, with this economy a half a loaf of bread is much better than no loaf at all!
                                Yep! When I was a sales sup I knew my margins and would always ask something along the lines of "woud you like me to get this for you? No? What would it take for you to enjoy XXXX today?"

                                They say give me "XX% off/ toss in those accys (MARGIN) etc. the deal was done.

                                Little margin is better than none at all, any day of the week.
                                B&W

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                                • HedgeHog
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 241

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by emig5m
                                  Why would B&W themselves care if a dealer loses it's own profits to discounts? Doesn't the dealer take the hit of a discount and not B&W? Heck, with this economy a half a loaf of bread is much better than no loaf at all!
                                  Simply a brand image thing, methinks. On a related note, I tried haggling on my Panerai watches, MSRP was the only thing authourized dealers will do. I'm sure dealers have leeway to negotiate better prices on some range but I guess the 800s need to uphold some perceived "standard". :W

                                  BTW, demo stuff was available at 20% off...too bad not the colour I wanted. :cry:
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                                  • emig5m
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Aug 2008
                                    • 646

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                    Simply a brand image thing, methinks. On a related note, I tried haggling on my Panerai watches, MSRP was the only thing authourized dealers will do. I'm sure dealers have leeway to negotiate better prices on some range but I guess the 800s need to uphold some perceived "standard". :W

                                    BTW, demo stuff was available at 20% off...too bad not the colour I wanted. :cry:
                                    Interesting... I was already told beforehand from my dealer I would get 10% off on 800 series if I ever decide to go that route. Would B&W rather have their well established dealers go out of business in tougher times or make some sales at a discounts and get by until times get better? I don't think they should frown on dealer giving discounts, especially right now... If the dealer is willing to take a profit hit, that should be up to them.

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                                    • ray5
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 444

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Gremal
                                      Buy more and save.

                                      I think any B&W dealer offering gear for more than 10% off is selling you demo models.
                                      Incorrect. They are all for new gear. I went to a second dealer because the first one did not have the 700's for demo. The 2nd one said the same, no matter what I picked he would give me 15 % off. I am not interested in floor models so did not ask. They will not go beyond that but seeing the discussion I am happy that 15 % is a good deal.

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                                      • kmcheng
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jan 2008
                                        • 253

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ray5
                                        Incorrect. They are all for new gear. I went to a second dealer because the first one did not have the 700's for demo. The 2nd one said the same, no matter what I picked he would give me 15 % off. I am not interested in floor models so did not ask. They will not go beyond that but seeing the discussion I am happy that 15 % is a good deal.
                                        I got 15% on my 805 without asking. Then I mentioned that I am also getting
                                        the stands, the Zeppelin, some electronics and some floor models, I got significantly better discounts on those. I made it very clear to the dealer that I needed to demo all my new purchases at home and would more than likely return at least some of them. He had no problem with it and let me take all the stuffs home. I did end up returning some of the items, but I also kept my discounts.

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                                        • Relentless
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Jul 2007
                                          • 317

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Gremal
                                          Buy more and save.

                                          I think any B&W dealer offering gear for more than 10% off is selling you demo models.
                                          nope...
                                          I refuse to tip-toe through life only to arrive safely at death...
                                          Lou

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