Are dealers charging only msrp for this unit? I just called a local shop that is authorized to carry Rotel and the sales guy said they arn't adjusting the price any because of demand and the unit being so new.
Rotel RSX 1057 - Discount?
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Originally posted by CPALIUAre dealers charging only msrp for this unit? I just called a local shop that is authorized to carry Rotel and the sales guy said they arn't adjusting the price any because of demand and the unit being so new.- Bottom
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Originally posted by shadowThat will show em. :roll:
I have a firm policy,you won't deal with me,I won't deal with you.10% should be minimum,even from a hardcore dealer.- Bottom
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The markups are 40% + so 15%-20% is very reasonable IMHO.
especially if you're a repeat buyer and spend tons of cash there.
I'm still waiting on mine...its been 2 months now. I'm very patient because I got a great deal on it....but I questioning myself if the discount was worth it
They claim the unit is/was on backorder...should have it by next week sometime
(famous last words)
NikosClasse SSP-800, Classe CA-5200, B&W 803D, B&W HTM2D, JL Audio Fathom f113 Subwoofer, Rotel RMB-1077(for sale), Oppo DV-983H, Panasonic PT-AE900U Xbox360, Sony PS3, Samsung 8000 Series 55" LCD, Klipsch promedia 5.1 ultra for PC- Bottom
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Originally posted by ElvisIf Rotel cares about sales and the dealer cares about a bottom line and enough people say bs,then yep,that will show em'.
I have a firm policy,you won't deal with me,I won't deal with you.10% should be minimum,even from a hardcore dealer.- Bottom
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Originally posted by shadowDiscounts like every other economic transaction will be decided by demand and supply. If a dealer can sell every 1057 for list price, more power to him. Rotel has no worries about its sales since virtually all its products sell great with little or no discount.- Bottom
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Originally posted by shadowMost people who buy $1300 receivers do not spend a "ton of cash" at a dealer. BTW, exactly from what source do you get the 40% markup statement?
I was second doubting myself when posting the 40% markup...just because its a sensitive subject that affects people that do this for a living. Blowing someones trade secrets is not fair or cool. If you're shopping for a discount product you can shop around and haggle quite a bit...but if you're getting the service and support...its worth every penny The dealers and sales people have to feed their families and pay for the showrooms etc that we enjoy and demo.
Nikos
sorry if I offended anyone in the meanwhileClasse SSP-800, Classe CA-5200, B&W 803D, B&W HTM2D, JL Audio Fathom f113 Subwoofer, Rotel RMB-1077(for sale), Oppo DV-983H, Panasonic PT-AE900U Xbox360, Sony PS3, Samsung 8000 Series 55" LCD, Klipsch promedia 5.1 ultra for PC- Bottom
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Discounts on Rotel gear can be found, but it's not guaranteed -- it's very dealer-dependent... the two Rotel retailers here in SF won't go below MSRP, at least not for me... and I've never been in the fortunate position to buy extra gear at the same time to fuel the discount... I understand the leverage, but I can't play.
So no Rotel HT for me... no biggie, there are other makes.
I did buy my 900-series Rotel integrated, and later, a CD player at one of those places over 10 yrs ago... tried for discount, walked twice, but paid MSRP -- mostly because I really wanted the Rotel, and also because I could readily afford it at the time... no regrets.
Whatever the exact number is, it is certain that markup on consumer electronics is substantial... conversely, low-volume boutiques that carry Rotel have overhead that is also relatively substantial (commercial rent in SF is insane)... but trying to determine those exact numbers is a waste of time.
By all means, pursue what you like for the price you want... but don't assume you're entitled to anything... like I said, plenty of other makes out there..
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Markup on consumer electronics varies greatly.
Classic example; Circuit City sells the Panasonic 50" Plasma (60U Series) for around $3100. I work for the largest custom (no retail, projects only) dealer in the country and my cost on that same plasma is $2765.
Is that a substantial margin?
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Originally posted by IntegrateMeMarkup on consumer electronics varies greatly.
Classic example; Circuit City sells the Panasonic 50" Plasma (60U Series) for around $3100. I work for the largest custom (no retail, projects only) dealer in the country and my cost on that same plasma is $2765.
Is that a substantial margin?
Barry"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."- Bottom
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The other distinction to make is whether the product is being sold in a retail environment or in a custom environment.
As a custom dealer, if someone simply calls me up and asks for a product, I have no reason not to offer a discount, since no resources are expended other than a few minutes of the purhasing agent's time.
In general, a 35% margin is required to successfully run a custom business and make 1-3% on the back end after vans, insurance, occupancy, taxes, misc. parts, salaries and other expenses are paid for. Most custom dealers do between 2-8 million a year (25-30% of which is generated by labor/project management/programming) so if you work the numbers, it becomes clear that it is a tough ship to run.
Retail operations operate by different rules.- Bottom
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Originally posted by IntegrateMeThe other distinction to make is whether the product is being sold in a retail environment or in a custom environment.
As a custom dealer, if someone simply calls me up and asks for a product, I have no reason not to offer a discount, since no resources are expended other than a few minutes of the purhasing agent's time.
In general, a 35% margin is required to successfully run a custom business and make 1-3% on the back end after vans, insurance, occupancy, taxes, misc. parts, salaries and other expenses are paid for. Most custom dealers do between 2-8 million a year (25-30% of which is generated by labor/project management/programming) so if you work the numbers, it becomes clear that it is a tough ship to run.
Retail operations operate by different rules."Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."- Bottom
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Does anyone have any heat issues with their 1057? I have nothing on the sides of my 1057, but only about 3 inches of clearance above the 1057. Is this going to be a problem for me later down the road? The receiver does get fairly warm, but not hot enoughg where I can't keep my hand on it.- Bottom
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Ik got 600 euros of my 1077 and about 400 euros of my 1068 and a bunch of free high quality silver(ish) interconnects.
First time buyer there. Right now my 1068 is broken... so i hope aftersales is just as good as the initial priceGr. Sebastian- Bottom
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Originally posted by CPALIUDoes anyone have any heat issues with their 1057? I have nothing on the sides of my 1057, but only about 3 inches of clearance above the 1057. Is this going to be a problem for me later down the road? The receiver does get fairly warm, but not hot enoughg where I can't keep my hand on it.
Also i don't think 3" clearance would be enough from the top. Because you have no heat escaping from the top. I have mine out in the open in the middle rack and still gets hot. I wouldn't put this receiver in a tight place, you might run into problems later on.
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