803D review- Can someone translate this (Dutch?)?

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  • js24
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 118

    803D review- Can someone translate this (Dutch?)?

    Das Test- und Technik-Magazin für HiFi- und Surround-Enthusiasten. Die Stereoplay Redaktion testet für Sie.


    Maybe not the entire thing but at least just a summary of what they are saying
    Thanks Thanks
    Last edited by js24; 12 April 2005, 15:59 Tuesday. Reason: updated
  • Pieter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 219

    #2
    Jay, if it were in Dutch I would have given it a bash. Unfortunately it is in German.

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    • goe2112
      Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 41

      #3
      js24, what you can try is this : on the adobe toolbar is a T for Text tool this allows you to highlight the text, after that copy the text then go to Alta Vista Babel Fish translation web page. Paste the text and then have it translate from german to English, this should work. You might have to cut and paste portions of the text because I don't know how many words it can translate at one time.
      I hope this works

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      • Stevebez
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2003
        • 458

        #4
        From, what I can gather it gets 60 out of 70 for sound and 81 out of 100 in total ... loses out in "practicality" it seems.

        In terms of sounds cataegories of which there are
        "Naturalness" 13/14
        "Resolution" 14/14
        "dynamic at borderline" 11/14
        "Bass Quality" 11/14
        "Sound Stage" 11/14

        In terms of other categories
        "Measurements" 8/10
        "Practicality" 5/10
        "Value" 8/10

        Rgds Steve

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        • junior77blue
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2004
          • 635

          #5
          I wonder how they would compare it to the N802. To give us a benchmark...

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          • james_dmi
            Member
            • Jan 2005
            • 85

            #6
            Translated through babelfish with a few obvious corrections to words

            Man’s Best Friend
            Marilyn Monroe besang the effect of jewels on women. B&W brings now a Tweeter with diamond diaphragm. The new 803 D becomes so the gloss light - particularly for men. An exclusive test.

            Test: Wolfram Eifert, Photo: Julian Bauer, Hersteller

            Well thing needs while - one seems to take this slogan with Bowers & Wilkins literally. Proud seven years the Nautilus 800er-Serie adhered to the market, in many countries of the earth was and is it the box series usually-sold most well-known with distance and in the Premium segment. Expectations are accordingly high to the successors, whose sales is started on 15 January of this yearly. And completely obviously B&W counts on an enormous attack of the fan municipality, because the introduction on the market is accompanied by a marketing campaign, whose professionalism and information abundance place everything into the shade, which box manufacturers within this price range placed to date on the legs.

            So registered Nautilus owners in Bälde may count on a centimetre-thick surprise in their mail box: An extensive Booklet including DVD explains the advantages of the new models just as in detail as understandable and is gespickt in addition with numerous music examples. Who does not rank among the chosen ones, the info. package gets also in the specialized trade. So that owners of older Nautilus models do not suffer unnecessary losses with the exchange, the German B&W selling created under a www.gute-anlage.de Internet platform, on which registered dealers can offer Inzahlungnahmen country widely - according to arbitrary criteria sorts and with precise data concerning age, condition and warranty.

            The new 800er-Model (those no more Nautilus are called official) sees similar to its 1998 started predecessors at first sight for confounding. Many of the optical and technical characteristics were developed further, so for instance the released Tweeter or the gentle roundness of the housings introduced at that time, which were copied since that time by many competitors. Nevertheless 90 per cent of all parts is new.

            Trick and pivot of the series is a new Tweeter, with which a dome from a synthetically won diamond flows for the first time into a mass production. The material is decisively superior to aluminium favoured so far by B&W: Owing to its singular combination from smallest weight and irrwitziger rigidity its departure resonance lies with same diaphragm surface more than twice as highly as with the past aluminium dome, in addition comes a by far better heat conductivity. More to this wonderwork in the box on page 14.

            The material comes from a specialist for industrial diamonds, the company Element Six in Ascot near London. Because of the exorbitant manufacturing costs B&W saw itself forced to a two-class company. The Top model 800, 801 and 802 keeps the Diamond Tweeter standard. Of the 803 there are immediately two versions: first of all 803 S with two bass drivers and an improved aluminium tweeter as successors of the past Nautilus 803, parallel to it 803 D with Diamond Tweeter, additional bass driver and somewhat larger housing.

            To 804 and 805 there are the entrance models only as s-version with conventional Tweeter. For Stereoplay the march direction thereby was clear: The diamond Traegerin lowest-priced with 8000 euro, the 803 D, had to move forward in time for the sales start to an extensive test.

            The Diamond Tweeter places all predecessors into the shade

            Beside the Tweeter B&W submitted also the remaining components of a radical cure. The mid-range cone had like its predecessor a yellow resplendent Kevlar diaphragm without conventional edge suspension, it was again invented however under employment of most modern simulation and measuring procedures. The magnetic system from neodymium, shrunk clearly, obstructs the air movement behind the diaphragm less than ever before, at the same time grew the linear range of the magnetic field. Diaphragm and edge sealing received a fine cross section regarding still fewer reflections in the Kevlar fabric. The changes are optically not too engraving, instrumentation however partly spectacular - the three-dimensional oscillation pictures on the manufacturer DVD clarify this.

            The bass drivers, whose magnetic systems in audiophile manners were trimmed on an extremely long air gap, thus are completely new the drive also with extreme Deflections a homogeneous field finds. The new diaphragms use two thin carbon fibre situations with 8 millimetres thicken intermediate layer from Rohacell, an extremely sturdy foam material, which normally lends at aircraft engines the necessary firmness to rotor blades. A not unimportant side effect: The sand yielding diaphragms let clearly less unwanted sound portions from the box inside penetrate than the predecessors of Kevlar and paper.

            With the organization of frequency switches B&W applied for a long time as an advocate rather complex filter, the more surprisingly the course change with the new 800er-Serie. Crossover filters of third order sit only before the basses, which become mid-range by band-pass filters of second order, the Tweeter - one reads and is astonished - to have only a capacitor and maximally a resistance before the nose, thus only weakly effective, but however particularly impulse-careful high-pass first order toward deep frequencies. The reason: It sounds better. Two consequences can be derived out from it: B&W thinks an enormous maximum stress to its new Tweeter capable of, also the chassis without each Entzerrung must harmonieren perfectly with the box.

            That heard the 803 D extended over two long evenings - it should become one of the most exciting sessions in the history of Stereoplay. As comparison the Diva Utopia predominantly served from Focal, which had taken yearly passed in July protruding 60 points of sound. This transducer resembles the 803 D in substantial aspects: Like B&W Focal sets on spatially separated central and Tweeter, like the 803 D possesses also the Diva a range, those far beyond 20 kilohertz is enough. The difference: Focal uses beryllium in place of diamond.

            Do they know Antonio Casimir Cartellieri? That hardly admitted composer of the early romance (1772 born) two beautiful Blaeserkonzerte wrote, which were gebannt for the first time 1999 on plate. The classical period label Dabringhaus and Grimm conserved the two Schaetzchen, easily from the chamber orchestra of the Czech Philharmonics, used in audiophile transparency.

            The 803D transported the Prague musician so reliably to Stuttgart, as if concern it raw eggs. The suppleness and the spatial depth, which proceeded from its lecture, were stage ripe. Play there did first fill play the violin and flute-compatible chassis combination of HiFi history? Without each Nuscheln and pinching? The 803 D seemed this ideal as close to come as no different one before. The Utopia might have worked within the basic clay/tone range somewhat more cleared up, more airily however always sounded the B&W.

            They remember still the rock sound of the early Deep Purple? Perhaps then you suspect, what still in such a way we zugemutet the 803 D everything. No, not the dead-played ear worms of Led Zeppelin and Roxette. Many more badly: The vierkoepfige Hardrock formation Seether. Their album "I'm Guilty" brings each usual box to Krei. The piekfeine 803 D acted like the rock in the surf: Schlagzeug and bass guitars with almost unbelievable directness and nevertheless sayful even correctly loud enstand never eases, the impression that on the whole one a cover would lie, which cuts dynamic points off. There the Focal worked then nevertheless clearly more closely.

            To reconciliation the melodisch driving "Let it go", the Clair Marlo still at analog times for Sheffield lab had brought in: Also here at first attempt outstanding fine dynamics, spatialness and a play joy - in such a way sang itself the 803 D finally in the Boxenolymp. The Diva Utopia might a trace tonally have acted more neutrally, could not however not have prevented that the clearly lower-priced B&W at the end of likewise 60 points in-sagged. Thus is not applicable "let it go" for the 803 D any longer: The exception box will remain probably a while in the Schwabenlaendle. As workhorse and benefit loudspeaker.

            Result

            The new 803 D lies fully in the trend: fine-intimately, strong, stress-poor. A comparison with the Nautilus 802 (does not have the 803 D a direct predecessor) shows, what thing is: The Oldie had 3 points of sound less and was 1000 euro more expensively. The careful advancement of the Design is more clever: Thus one wins new customers, without pushing the old before the head.

            Measured values

            Frequency response


            Somewhat wavy process; on the average however balanced with strong bass and large transmission range without high sounding he resonance peak; Impedance minimum 2.7 (!) ohms

            Decay spectrum

            Particularly within the high clay/tone range very brisk fading away without resonances

            Maximum volume starting from 90Hz: 116 dB


            Naturalness 13/14
            Fine dissolution 14/14
            Border dynamics 11/14
            Bass quality 11/14
            Illustration 11/14

            Sound 60/70

            Measured values 8/10
            Practice 5/10
            Priority 8/10



            Ultramodern condition box in the tradition of the legendary Nautilus models also newly well-behaved Diamanthochtoener. Enormously fine, almost weightless klangbild with striking spatialness. High-grade sinnlich and color-gladly.

            Stereoplay test judgment
            Sound: Absolute Spitzenkl. 60 Points
            Total Judgment: very well 81 Points
            Price / Achievement: towering above


            Technology in the detail: The new diamond Tweeter

            Under the well-known materials for Hartkalotten diamond possesses the characteristics most fascinating with distance. No other material is so firmly and at the same time easy. Diaphragms from aluminum and titanium weigh more clearly with comparable rigidity. Even beryllium is not enough in this regard at diamond near. With the new diaphragm it succeeded to B&W to shift the resonance at the end of the spectrum of scarcely 30, inevitable with hard materials, on approximately 70 kilohertz. Although such high tones are not directly audible, one is with B&W of the firm conviction that the effect leads across a more accurate processing from impulses to a clearly stress-poorer klangbild - a thesis, which the test fill confirmed.
            Last edited by james_dmi; 14 April 2005, 06:45 Thursday.
            James

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            • js24
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 118

              #7
              Thanks very much guys (esp. James)

              I guess that was German,... huh..? 8O... I was "this" close to guess it right though

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              • rays
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 5

                #8
                Translation

                Guys,

                I usually use the following site for translation of different forums' articles and reviews. Its a portal like that summarize different translation sites, and even help u to recognize the language if u don't even know what it is!

                translation.langenberg.com

                Enjoy. 8)

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