Just read about this thing and found it interesting. BD/SACD/DVD-A all in one with balanced outputs and the whole nine yards. Pricey, but pretty cool to see someone do it.
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Very nice indeed, Oppo will have the same except the price $499-$999 and it will be all digital transport no analogue let your pre amp do the heavy lifting:TOriginally posted by impala454BD/SACD/DVD-A all in one with balanced outputs and the whole nine yards. Pricey, but pretty cool to see someone do it.
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Yea..i think ill stay with Oppo...but good luck Denon. You market is really only people who dont know about Oppo.Comment
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You have to admit the Denon looks nice I wished Oppo would get a designer to make their players look better. Check out the Emotiva ERC-1 CD player looks nice and is very competitiveOriginally posted by Vancouver
Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. EisenhowerComment
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Yeah I must admit I don't keep up with the players much. Thought about the Emotiva CD player (I'm on the UMC-1 pre-order list), but figured I'd rather have some kind of all-in one. This Denon isn't something that's in my budget, but I thought it was cool enough to post.
When does the Oppo all-in-one come out?-ChuckComment
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Here's a picture of the ugly OPPO.Attached FilesComment
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Very interesting. Will be watching this product.
CHRIS
Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
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I have yet to read anything about the Oppo being able to play DVD-A. The Denon does have the edge there."I have come here, to chew bubblegum and kickass. And I'm all out of bubblegum!!!"Comment
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Oppo Blu Ray will not play DVD Audio and it's not a bad thing DVD Audio (700 disks) is dead unlike SACDs 5301 discs which continues to be released by many labels, Linn records, Telarc, Pentatone, Channel Classic, 2L.....Originally posted by John HolmesFarming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. EisenhowerComment
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Sony wins again? (this time) CHRIS
Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
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I thought the Oppo was undetermined if it would play DVD-A or not. I can't understand why DVD-A licensing would be so much extra when you already need all the features of it for DVD playback.Comment
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If this new Denon universal player is everything that it's supposed to be, I'm getting me one. I love that it will play SACD, DVD-A, and that it's a fully balanced design. Also looking forward to trying out Denon Link 4.
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Denon should strip off all those expensive DA converters and output DenonLink and HDMI only to drastically reduce the price. For AVP/POA owners it is a great waste needing to pay for redundant AD converters.
Thus, I will wait for a HDMI only DVD-A1.Miyuki
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Originally posted by bigburner
As the owner of some Marantz gear , I'm not seein' the ugly.
Lee
Marantz PM7200-RIP
Marantz PM-KI Pearl
Schiit Modi 3
Marantz CD5005
Paradigm Studio 60 v.3Comment
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maybe its best to purchase the DVD-3800BDCI and buy a pioneer elite blu ray player?BOBComment
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Neither am I. It looks pretty good to me!Originally posted by Alaric
Nigel.Comment
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Unless you're using the analog outs on the player, this is a complete waste of time and money. I hope people don't buy this only to bitstream the lossless codecs.
Denon should release an updated profile 2.0 transport similar to the 2500BTCI, but with SACD and DVD-A playback capabilities. I really don't see the point of this player. If you have the money to buy this, you most likely already have a beefy pre/pro that can handle decoding etc. If you don't, maybe you should be upgrading your pre/pro instead of buying sources that are close to 4K.A camera, passport, good music, good food and good company is all I need.Comment
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I think that's exactly the point of this player. Many people have a good, but older pre/pro that lacks HDMI, so they can't utilize HD audio whether decoded LPCM or undecoded bitstream. This player fills the gap and handles SACD and DVD-A. I do agree that it's overpriced, and one might be better served investing in a new pre/pro. At least one that can accept MCh LPCM over HDMI, which if paired with Oppo, gives you everything via HDMI.Originally posted by btf1980Santino
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.Comment
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I wholeheartedly agree with this.Originally posted by Miyuki
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I stand corrected Oppo will support DVD-Audio, SACD, Blu Ray, DVD, CD forget the Denon..it's overpriced :TOriginally posted by wettouFarming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. EisenhowerComment
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I paid $4k for a Denon DVD 5000 10 years ago and I've had good use out of it. In comparison, to pay $5k for DVD A1UD represents outstanding value.Comment
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Care to qualify that statement? I can think of a lot of superlatives here and value is not one of them. I don't see any specs for what is actually in this thing, so how can you even know if it's worth $5K?Originally posted by brodricjSantino
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.Comment
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Originally posted by brodricjActually its msrp is $3800 USD.Originally posted by littlesaintComment
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Source?Originally posted by Z ManSantino
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.Comment
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$3800 msrp, oh really, even better value still. Actually there are some specs to hand: s/n ratio 125db, THD <0.0008%, AL32 bit processing, 192kHz DA on all channels etc etc. Given it will be a Denon flagship product, and given the pedigree of Denon's previous flagship products going back 10+ years, I think it's fair to assume that the performance and build quality of this machine (18.9 kg) should be up there with the best of the best. To me it represents outstanding value at that price point. Particularly if it means I don't need to upgrade my pre/pro to get the latest HD sound codecs.Comment
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hows about an official denon press release :BOriginally posted by littlesaint
theres also this brief overview from audioholics
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/t...non-dvd-a1udci
with ces in a weeks or so time likely to see a lot more info on the thing.
given the $3500 rrp of the previous 5910 flagship dont actually think the $300 premium is much more to pay for this flagship universal especially given it throws in a better dac stage, the new jitter free denon link 4, and true balanced dual differntial design and xlr outputs."Technology is a drug. We can't get enough of it."Comment
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Just found out what DAC's will be used in the DVD-A1UD. They are AKM AK4399 32-bit DAC's. These are so new that they are not yet listed on AKM's website. They are "supposed" to have a 126dB SNR & -105 THD+N.
Here is a Denon DVD-A1UD product sheet (in Chinese)
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Very cool IMO. Be nice to use with some hi end "out of date" pros. Krell etc.B&W
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If you look in the right places you can buy the new DVD-3800BDCI for $1300.00 just lift a few rocks..lol anyone paying full price needs to send there equipment to me for psychotherapy. lol but is denon the best? or sony? or pioneer elite? hmmmm who wins the best video award. and the best audio award. maybe its 2 separates instead of an all in one.BOBComment
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That is true for all Japaneses or Korean brands more difficult with US, European or Canadian brand try to get discount of Krell, Meridian, Classé....Originally posted by crytklmassFarming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. EisenhowerComment
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well Denon has never won an award for looks...thats for sure.Originally posted by bigburner
This new player from them reminds me of their $500 ethernet cable. Even if the DACs are great...they arent going to be worth 3k.
The Oppo doesnt look the best i agree, but man is sure looks like a winner.Comment
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A bit of info about the DAC's being used.
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oh give it a rest !Originally posted by Vancouver
sure looks interesting sethOriginally posted by Z Man
as posted on avs by giomania
"Technology is a drug. We can't get enough of it."Comment
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Originally posted by alebonau
Thanks for your valuable post, but I think I continue to post about the value and merits of this component like I do all others. I am sorry if you are not happy with my opinion.
BTW challenge post, not the poster.Comment
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Some very good info there as well. Thanks for sharing that.Originally posted by alebonau I'm really jazzed about getting this player.
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Over the last 5 years I have, for various reasons, come into the possession of 4 different cd players (details below). Now I wouldn’t be a budding audiophile if the idea didn’t occur to me, eventually, to find out which one of them was the best. I googled each of them to get the technical specs,... -
This was pulled off the Denon Canada website.
Product upgrade was to be available starting March 15.
I will go through this process at the end of April when we move to the new house.
DENON CANADIAN WEBSITE
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I haven't seen a thread on this dvd player yet if so point me in the right direction if not lets chat. I hear how good the Oppo dvd players are, well do they contend with the big boys? I have a Denon 3910 and if the Oppo is as good then Denon got me for $1300. This DV-981HD is their latest one that... -
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There has been much discussion as of late on whether to invest in a 'Seperates' set-up consisting of a dedicated Pre/Pro and seperate amplifiers or a Flagship receiver such as the Denon 5800, B&K 307 ,and Onkyo 989.
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Ok so been on the look out for what I'm going to add to my setup as a pre/pro in the next 6 months or so. Well a few days ago Denon put the AVR-4311CI up on their site and after researching I think it's the one.
Price is ~2k. It's got 9 channels of amps for 9.2. But it has 11.2 channel...
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