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  • theSven
    Master of None
    • Jan 2014
    • 1656

    #91
    While I was at home for 48 hours I wanted to progress the completion of the CC. After the first coat of primer was applied, I over sprayed and had some runs. I also had some tiny pockets that the primer was not filling in. I resorted to using a polyfill from 3M. Steve shared a good option which I did order, but it would not arrive till Monday and I would be gone by then to the West Coast. Lets see how bad the run in the primer was...

    Runs in the primer
    The runs in the primer were not terrible, it was sanded down and filler used to make sure it will be super smooth! Now lets explore these pesky little pockets.

    Tiny pockets in the primer

    Over sanded the corner

    Tiny pockets in the primer

    There are some tiny pockets and my OCD wanted them to be filled in and perfectly smooth before I spray the paint. Below are two images after applying the filler, but have not sanded.

    Polyfilly applied to the cabinet

    Polyfill applied to the front of the cabinet

    I did get the cabinet sanded after the polyfill was applied. The plan is when I arrive back home this weekend to get the last coat of primer applied on Saturday evening. One last final sanding should do the trick. If all goes well I hope to get the paint applied on Sunday. I'm estimating it will be 3 coats and I'm trying to decide on how to approach this. My current plan is to spray the bottom and legs first. Mount the cabinet to the base and spray the sides, top, and back while mounted. That should allow the best coverage and avoid awkward angles to spray the paint.
    Last edited by theSven; 10 October 2024, 16:14 Thursday. Reason: update grammar
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    • theSven
      Master of None
      • Jan 2014
      • 1656

      #92
      I arrived back in town this afternoon and got to work on applying the last (I hope...) coat of primer. Tomorrow the plan is to do a final sanding and clean to prepare for applying the color coats. Then apply the clear coat for the bamboo pieces. Getting closer to the finish line!
      Painter in training

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      • JonMarsh
        Mad Max Moderator
        • Aug 2000
        • 16038

        #93
        Sounds like you'll have a busy Sunday Funday!

        Getting close or at least closer to the finish line is always a good feeling... starting to feel that way here at Casa de Jon.
        the AudioWorx
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        • theSven
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          I have one more coat to apply and then I have to figure out how to very gently get this cabinet back inside. Then try and figure out how to gently get it down to the theater room...
      • theSven
        Master of None
        • Jan 2014
        • 1656

        #94
        It's now 1600 local time and the cabinet is in the garage drying. I want to let it dry for a couple of hours before I try to move it into the house. I'm not sure how I'm going to get this to the basement yet. given the size and weight, this is not as simple as it was putting the last two projects together. I may try to secure it to a dolly to get it down the stairs with straps and padding. I'm very nervous to lift and carry as I don't want to hurt the paint. Details to figure out in the next week. Lets look at where I am now.

        If you recall I had some runs in the primer. After a little polyfill, sanding, and another coat of primer, you would never never know!

        No runs in primer

        Smooth, just the way it should be!

        No runs more light

        More light that will show any and all defects. That is why prep work is the most important in my opinion for a good finish.

        New position to paint

        I wanted to avoid having to move this cabinet too much while painting. I laid it face down to paint everything but the front where the baffle will cover up.

        Added an extra light

        Painting black colored paint can be difficult to see the shadows. I added an extra light to help ensure I get an even coat of paint.

        First coat of paint applied

        First coat of paint applied. So far so good...

        Left side close up

        Left side close up of the first coat of paint.

        Right side close up

        Right side close up of the first coat of paint.

        Loooking down at cabinet

        Looking down at the cabinet after the first coat, and there is no trace of the runs being there. Smooth!!

        Out of the light

        The top of the cabinet out of the light. I had to put the cabinet down on the ground to then put it back up to put it face down. I had stood the cabinet up to paint the front of the legs or whatever you want to call it that the cabinet will be attached to.

        After the last coat of paint

        The last coat of paint applied to the top of the cabinet.

        Last coat paint on the side

        Last coat of paint on the side. The white at the top is from the phone flash. Even with the lighting it was hard to get a good photo without shadow.

        Next up is getting the bottom plate and baffle painted with the clear coat. As well as getting this beast down to the theater room.
        Painter in training

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        • technodanvan
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          Looks pretty darn even to me, you're turning into a pro!
      • JonMarsh
        Mad Max Moderator
        • Aug 2000
        • 16038

        #95
        It's really coming along nicely now!
        the AudioWorx
        Natalie P
        M8ta
        Modula Neo DCC
        Modula MT XE
        Modula Xtreme
        Isiris
        Wavecor Ardent

        SMJ
        Minerva Monitor
        Calliope
        Ardent D

        In Development...
        Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
        Obi-Wan
        Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
        Modula PWB
        Calliope CC Supreme
        Natalie P Ultra
        Natalie P Supreme
        Janus BP1 Sub


        Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
        Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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        • Steve Manning
          Moderator
          • Dec 2006
          • 2117

          #96
          Looking very nice Sven. I'd give that beasty a few days at least before handling it too much. As I recall that finish takes ~ a week or so to cure.
          Hold on to your butts - It's about to get Musical!



          WEBSITE: http://www.smjaudio.com/

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          • theSven
            Master of None
            • Jan 2014
            • 1656

            #97
            I had the energy left in me, and with the weather cooling down this week I decided to get the clear coat sprayed on the bamboo and the new speaker feet for my SMJ Ardent D's. The new speaker feet will go into a separate post.

            Here is how the clear coat spraying went down...

            Make shift shelf for drying

            This should be a pretty familiar site from my previous projects. Using ladders with scrap boards for shelves to store the pieces while they dry inbetween coats of clear appliaction.

            Start with the baffle down

            I started spraying the back of the baffle first. That way I don't have to flip it over or worry about any pin marks from the paint props. I placed the props in the ring of the woofers to avoid having any tiny little marks on the baffle.

            2 coats of clear applied to back baffle

            It is difficult to tell, but two coats of clear have been applied to the back of the baffle. Once this dries I only need to focus on spraying the front.

            Two coats applied to base

            Two coats of clear applied to the base. I'm using the bright light to also give off heat to help dry the coat faster. This clear formula dries pretty fast as is. It's the 3rd project I'm using with this, and I will continue to as it has a proven track record for me.

            Final coat of clear on front baffle

            The final coat of clear sprayed on the front of the baffle. Notice that I am now using the lazy susan beneath the baffle. This makes spraying and adjusting the piece much easier to manage. Steve taught me this trick. I suppose I should ask Steve about making a heavy duty lazy susan in case I have some large cabinets to finish in the future...

            Final coat on the base

            Final coat of clear applied to the base. I slowly spin the base around to apply heat from the light.

            Front baffle drying

            The front baffle drying on the top shelf. Once it is movable, it will be relocated into the house to dry for the week along with the other pieces.

            Spraying the new speaker feet

            Last up was spraying all the new speaker feet. Each foot had two coats of clear applied. Using the lazy susan made spraying these simple and fast. The hardest part was carefully moving them to rest.

            Originally posted by Steve Manning
            Looking very nice Sven. I'd give that beasty a few days at least before handling it too much. As I recall that finish takes ~ a week or so to cure.
            That is what I had in the back of my mind too, that it takes a week. All pieces are in the house and drying. The plan is to star the assembly next Sunday and give the speaker a test drive for Sunday night movies...

            The speaker feet shipped last week and should hopefully arrive this week. Once they come in I can post some photos to show the size.
            Painter in training

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            • JonMarsh
              Mad Max Moderator
              • Aug 2000
              • 16038

              #98
              Excellent spray work and setup - you are no longer a Padawan Painter!

              And yes, Ladders are useful for so many things...


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              the AudioWorx
              Natalie P
              M8ta
              Modula Neo DCC
              Modula MT XE
              Modula Xtreme
              Isiris
              Wavecor Ardent

              SMJ
              Minerva Monitor
              Calliope
              Ardent D

              In Development...
              Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
              Obi-Wan
              Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
              Modula PWB
              Calliope CC Supreme
              Natalie P Ultra
              Natalie P Supreme
              Janus BP1 Sub


              Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
              Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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              • JonMarsh
                JonMarsh commented
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                They're like routers and guitars... you can never have too many of them!
            • theSven
              Master of None
              • Jan 2014
              • 1656

              #99
              The speaker spikes arrived today. Here are some photos to share.

              4 padded envelopes

              The spikes were sent in 4 padded bags and a fifth thin bag.

              Label on the top of the box

              The edenSound label on the top of the box.

              Nicely packaged in the box

              The spikes are packaged nicely in the box in bubble wrap and a plastic bag.

              Spike removed from the bubble wrap

              The spikes are in a plastic bag that was wrapped in bubble wrap.

              Size comparison with a computer mouse

              Size comparison of a computer mouse with the spike.

              These spikes may not be big, but they are heavy. In fact if you dropped this on your toe it could break your toe! They have a very nice feel to them when you pick them up. I think I found a great replacement for the ViaBlue I had used for previous builds. Thanks for the suggestion Steve Manning.
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              • Steve Manning
                Moderator
                • Dec 2006
                • 2117

                #100
                Those are a pretty good size! They look nicely machined as well.
                Hold on to your butts - It's about to get Musical!



                WEBSITE: http://www.smjaudio.com/

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                • theSven
                  Master of None
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 1656

                  #101
                  After 1 week of waiting I spent the afternoon assembling the supreme CC. Lets take a look at what this process looked like.

                  Cabinet in living room

                  For the last week the cabinet has been resting here, and everyone was told to stay far away, do not go near this.

                  Cabinet in the theater room

                  I had my son help me carry the cabinet down the the theater room very carefully. I wanted to get a photo of the cabinet close to the current subwoofer and center channel setup. You can see that the new center channel is pretty big!

                  All parts ready to assemble

                  All the parts are now ready to assemble the center channel. Let the fun begin!

                  Empty cabinet ready to start

                  The cabinet is empty, the first thing to start with is getting the wires setup.

                  Install the Tweeter & Mid wiring

                  Tweeter and mid cables installed. As I learned now I have the wires mixed up. The wire on the left where the tweeter wire is should actually be on the right. I got these backwards which means the mid is out of sync. The mid is reverse. The cables would line up, but I wasn't paying attention to detail... I was over excited.

                  Fish the wires through the back

                  Next I had to fish the wires through the back where the terminal will be installed. There is another pair of wires for a jumper.

                  Wires that hook up to crossover

                  These wires hook up to the crossover for the tweeter and woofer. There is another wire set that will connect this crossover board to the other crossover board.

                  Terminal to install

                  Close up of the terminal that will get connected and mounted to the cabinet. It has a nice weight and feel to it.

                  Terminal connected

                  Secure the wires to the terminal. There is a tiny little hex bolt that holds the wires in place.

                  Terminal attached

                  Terminal is secured in place. I used a screw driver to manually install and it was pretty quick. I didn't want to take any chances with a drill, thus all screws were manually tightened.

                  Next up the build continues...
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                  • theSven
                    Master of None
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 1656

                    #102
                    Continuing with the assembly...

                    Two crossovers and wiring all in place

                    The wires are installed in the cabinet. It's time to insert some stuffing. It's best to do this before installing the crossovers, it's a tight squeeze! Next the crossovers need to get wired and secured into the cabinet. The crossovers are large, and have to weigh over 10 lbs each.

                    Turn cabinet sideways to install crossover

                    When I picked the speaker up from Steve, he taught me the easiest and safest way to install/remove the crossover is to put the cabinet on the side. The mid crossover is the first that shall be installed.

                    Mid crossover

                    I have to share a bunch of the crossover photos, for some reason I really like them. It's like an art form in of itself.

                    Mid crossover installed

                    The mid crossover installed. The wires to the mid speaker need to be secured next.

                    Tool to help install crossovers and tighten the screws

                    Steve had this great tool to make the crossover install/removal easy. I ordered one for myself off Amazon. This tool made it simple to get the crossover installed and the terminal screws tightened.

                    Connect the 2nd crossover

                    Flip the cabinet over and it's time to connect the wires to the 2nd crossover which is the crossover for the woofers and tweeter.

                    Connect the wires

                    The terminal connection and the wires to the other crossover along with the jumper are all connected now.

                    Connecting the speakers to the crossover

                    This was probably one of the hardest parts of the assembly to get the wires secured for the tweeter that were under the tweeter board. This was one of the fastest builds for me. All credit to Steve for making this an amazingly smooth process!!!!

                    Both crossovers installed

                    Both crossovers are now installed. Next up is the base...
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                    • theSven
                      Master of None
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 1656

                      #103
                      Continuing with the assembly...

                      Attach the base

                      The base is easily attached with the hex bolts and an allen wrench.

                      Securely attached

                      The base securely attached. Time to add the new shiny spikes.

                      Spikes ready to attach

                      The spikes out of all the packaging and ready to attach to the base.

                      Closeup of the spikes

                      A closeup of the spikes in an artistic lineup before being attached to the base.

                      Spikes attached

                      Spikes attached to the base. How do they look up close?

                      Closeup of spikes attached

                      This is how the spikes look with a closeup. They attached perfectly to the base.

                      The base on the other side

                      The base attached to see the legs. Sometimes the legs don't get much attention. I'm giving them some attention in this image.

                      Install gasket onto baffle

                      The baffle has an easy install gasket to seal the cabinet and the baffle together. This was awesome and so easy to do! Great idea on this one Steve as the baffle evolves with each build we do.

                      Gasket installed in baffle

                      The gasket installed. Now it's time to mate this with the cabinet. Lets continue that in the next post.
                      Painter in training

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                      • technodanvan
                        Super Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1459

                        #104
                        Those spikes look fantastic on this, perfect size and color!
                        - Danny

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                        • theSven
                          theSven commented
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                          I'm really impressed at how good the quality is.
                      • JonMarsh
                        Mad Max Moderator
                        • Aug 2000
                        • 16038

                        #105
                        Originally posted by theSven
                        Continuing with the assembly...

                        Attach the base

                        The base is easily attached with the hex bolts and an allen wrench.

                        Securely attached

                        The base securely attached. Time to add the new shiny spikes.

                        Spikes ready to attach

                        The spikes out of all the packaging and ready to attach to the base.

                        Closeup of the spikes

                        A closeup of the spikes in an artistic lineup before being attached to the base.

                        Spikes attached

                        Spikes attached to the base. How do they look up close?

                        Closeup of spikes attached

                        This is how the spikes look with a closeup. They attached perfectly to the base.

                        The base on the other side

                        The base attached to see the legs. Sometimes the legs don't get much attention. I'm giving them some attention in this image.

                        Install gasket onto baffle

                        The baffle has an easy install gasket to seal the cabinet and the baffle together. This was awesome and so easy to do! Great idea on this one Steve as the baffle evolves with each build we do.

                        Gasket installed in baffle

                        The gasket installed. Now it's time to mate this with the cabinet. Let's continue that in the next post.
                        Totally agree about the gasket and front panel design work Steve did! He's da man!
                        the AudioWorx
                        Natalie P
                        M8ta
                        Modula Neo DCC
                        Modula MT XE
                        Modula Xtreme
                        Isiris
                        Wavecor Ardent

                        SMJ
                        Minerva Monitor
                        Calliope
                        Ardent D

                        In Development...
                        Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
                        Obi-Wan
                        Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
                        Modula PWB
                        Calliope CC Supreme
                        Natalie P Ultra
                        Natalie P Supreme
                        Janus BP1 Sub


                        Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
                        Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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                        • theSven
                          Master of None
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 1656

                          #106
                          I've got a few minutes inbetween calls, lets continue the assembly journey!

                          Lock washer and Bolt on Baffle

                          The baffle is attached with lock nuts and bolts on the baffle side. The screw or bolt or not sure what it is called when there is no head on the bolt is threaded in then a lock waster with bolt are installed and tightened.

                          Tighetened nut on the baffle

                          The nut tightened, there are a total of 4.

                          All four nuts tightened

                          All four nuts are tightened and now the baffle is ready to mate with the cabinet.

                          Mating the baffle to the cabinet

                          As mentioned before this cabinet is heavy, therefore I'm using gravity to get the baffle lined up with the cabinet. The bolts will be finger tight to hold. Then it is a matter of tightening each bolt to securely mate the baffle to the cabinet.

                          Tighten the nuts for the baffle mating

                          Now it's time to tighten the baffle. Starting to resemble a center channel now.

                          Side view of the cabinet

                          This center channel is deep, it may look small in the photos, but it is not small. Also note that I seem to have a thing for bamboo baffles and black cabinets. I blame this bad habit on Evil Twin and his obsession with black. It has worn off on me...

                          Banana plugs for speaker wire

                          The previous center channel required the wire to be bare to use. The new center channel supports a proper banana plug. I'm a HUGE fan of the Blue Jean Cables banana plugs. They are my favorite to use!

                          Moving the center channel to place

                          Next I very carefully moved the center channel to the location it can call home. I pulled out the tape measure to center it in the room. The spikes go right through the carpet into the concrete floor. The only way to move the cabinet is to lift it carefully!

                          The speaker lineup

                          The speaker lineup from the top view. Hard to tell the size, but they are larger.

                          Side view of the speakers

                          A side view lineup of the speakers to show how tall they are.

                          The progress continues!
                          Painter in training

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                          • theSven
                            Master of None
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 1656

                            #107
                            The last post for the assembly! A few more photos to share...

                            Spikes in the carpeting

                            The spikes sink in about 1/2 inch into the carpet. I don't plan on putting anything underneath the spikes at this point. I think it's good to go unless someone speaks up to share their thoughts.

                            Connecting the speakers

                            As noted, Steve used connectors on all the wires to easily connect the speakers back up. Where is the easy button emoji?

                            Right Woofer installed

                            The right woofer is installed, two more drivers to go.

                            All drivers installed

                            All drivers installed and the cable connected.

                            Installed and more perspective in the room

                            This photo is taken from the platform in the back to give more perspective. I will get the mess cleaned up and move the sub tube out of the room. I will be starting a new sub project in the relative future with SMJ Audio. Looking forward to a test drive!
                            Painter in training

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                            • technodanvan
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1459

                              #108
                              So, what's the first movie to run through it?
                              - Danny

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                              • theSven
                                Master of None
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 1656

                                #109
                                Originally posted by technodanvan
                                So, what's the first movie to run through it?
                                hmmmmm, about that movie... Unfortunately I blew the tweeter on the new speaker and had to order a new speaker Sunday. I'm not sure what I did, but there was a burnt smell. I'm working with Jon and Steve to troubleshoot. The good news is I'm now the proud owner of Fuzzmeasure and I ordered a preamp to test with. I may end up having to invest in a better mic too. Baby steps I tell myself... Anyhow I think the first movie will be Man of Steal in 4k.
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                                • Scareurpasenger
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2017
                                  • 155

                                  #110
                                  That looks amazing! Great job on the finishing touches. If I wasn’t so stubborn, I would use SMJ. Great job as usual on design and shaping.

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                                  • theSven
                                    Master of None
                                    • Jan 2014
                                    • 1656

                                    #111
                                    Originally posted by Scareurpasenger
                                    That looks amazing! Great job on the finishing touches. If I wasn’t so stubborn, I would use SMJ. Great job as usual on design and shaping.
                                    Thank you. I had to give up being stubborn if I wanted to accomplish anything. My work schedule does not leave me with much free time at all these days. It's 2144 local time and I'm still responding to emails. Steve did an amazing job, and each project improves over the last with cool new ideas like the ribs, baffle, bracing, etc. I love the innovation and getting to actually do, not just talk about it. Looking forward to my next DIY the sub build!
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                                    • theSven
                                      Master of None
                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 1656

                                      #112
                                      I realized I never posted a photo of how the center channel looks in the room now that it is done. The photos is a bit older pre-new processor if you notice the remote 😃.

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                                      I'm still working someday on getting some slabs of rock that are smaller to put the Ardent D's on instead of the wood panels I had from an old shelf that used to be on that wall where the speakers are now.
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                                      • letiennam
                                        letiennam commented
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                                        I'm really impressed at how good the quality is.

                                      • theSven
                                        theSven commented
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                                        That's why I love DIY and working with SMJ Audio.

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