Dayton RS Center Channel Build Thread

[joeybutts]

Got some work in tonight.....Terminal cup is in, binding posts to the mid/tweet are in, and most of the insulation is in.....

Lots of pics.

[joeybutts]

Bottom glued on.





Just about all 703 is in, and other panels test fit for gluing.







Have a small issue here. Any ideas on how to fix this? It's less than 1/4"....



Side being glued on





Hoping to have this done by the end of the weekend! Only issues I'm having are that gap and how I am going to bolt up the binding posts after doing the finish. I may have to put the posts in now and work around them when doing the finish.

Also, if someone can let me know if I have too much/too little 703 that would be awesome. It's 2" 703.

[baniels]

It wouldn't be any fun if you didn't have things like that gap to solve along the way.

I'm sure you can find something to shim that gap. Strip of MDF or other wood at the right thickness. Do you have a planer?

[---k---]

Gaps. How big? Big gaps fill well with PL adhesive. Small gaps, make a putty from wood glue and fine sawdust.

Binding posts. Well I used the PE aluminum plates.

[joeybutts]

Thanks fellas. No planar, but that PL adhesive technique would be pretty easy.

hahah. Thanks Ryan. I could switch to those, but I love the recessed look, and too late to switch it up now.....I'll test if I can get the hardware on the binding post with the top and baffle on before I glue them on.

[Paul W]

You could run a temporary seal of tape down either side of the seam and then fill the gap with either epoxy or polyester resin.

[joeybutts]

You could run a temporary seal of tape down either side of the seam and then fill the gap with either epoxy or polyester resin.

Thanks Paul! I think for this time I am going to do the PL adhesive.

I just planned out the wiring in this thing. What a snakes nest. I hope I have it right.

If I am reading this right, the positive from mid network AND the tweeter network are in reverse polarity with the mid and tweeter?

Also, the woofer's are in series with proper polarity?

Thanks!!

[---k---]

You got to post a picture of the crossover you're using. There were at least 4 different ones. I'm to lazy to dig back through this thread to figure it out.

[joeybutts]

You got to post a picture of the crossover you're using. There were at least 4 different ones. I'm to lazy to dig back through this thread to figure it out.

Crap. Totally forgot about that. CJD's x-over.

[---k---]

Yep. Mid and Tweeter reverse polarity. Woofer positive polarity. This is directly opposite of what the Khans will be. CJD likes to make life difficult.

[joeybutts]

tweeter portion of crossover soldered. Waiting on Woofer and mid parts, so this should be wrapped up before Christmas!

[---k---]

Soldering before testing. 8O

Brave soul. Or have more reason to be confident in your skills than I have in mine. I always make at least one mistake. ops:

[joeybutts]

Soldering before testing. 8O

Brave soul. Or have more reason to be confident in your skills than I have in mine. I always make at least one mistake. ops:

I must say that I have had a pretty good track record with my x-over work. It's probably the triple checking the triple checking. :T

[JonMarsh]

You go Joey! Christmas or Bust! :B

[cjd]

FWIW you can go reversed on the woofers and "in phase" on the mud and tweeter just like the khans. Polarity relative is what matters. If this is paired with the Khan's I'd do that.

[joeybutts]

Hhahaahha. Thanks Jon for the support! I should have the remaining crossover parts by the middle to end of next week. So hopefully I'll have a free weekend day to work on it. If I get that, it will be wrapped up except for the finish!

cjd - When I get to wiring this, do you mind me pm'ing you if I get lost? I haven't had a chance to look at the schematic since reading your post, but am pretty sure I have your instructions understood.

[joeybutts]

Crossover...

[cjd]

Those binding pots cinch the wire like that? Interesting.

Getting close!

[joeybutts]

Those binding pots cinch the wire like that? Interesting.

Getting close!

Hahahha. I think you can, but I never have, and I will be using bananas. I just set it against there to show where it was going.

I know!! All are. I just need another $400 for the rest of the crossover parts (Markk's and Khan's )!!

Getting REALLY excited. Khan's cabinets should be all done today. WOOOOT!! :E :E :E

[impala454]

Wow that's some amazing woodworking skill! Nice job!

[joeybutts]

Thanks Chuck!

Small update on this, got the wires done for the tweeter in the chamber and opened up the backs for the mid and woofers.

[Flyingeyepro]

nice work.

[joeybutts]

Thanks! I like your first post. :T

[joeybutts]

Ok. soooooooo thought I had all the components taken care of for the crossovers.

SOME HOW LOST A 12 uf CAP. :evil:

Sooooo waiting on that. But the crossovers are built as far as I can take them and they will be boarded and installed this weekend.

Some pics and some confirmation that I have the inductors aligned appropriately.

QUESTION:
Mid crossover; are my inductors ok in this orientation?







Woofer crossover done -





Woofer crossover in it's final residence -





All crossovers in final position -







QUESTION:
Is 6 inches enough distance between my woofer inductor and mid inductors?

[---k---]

yes your inductors look correct.
yes. 6" is more than I have in my Khans.

[joeybutts]

yes your inductors look correct.
yes. 6" is more than I have in my Khans.

Thanks Ryan!! I was 99% sure they would be ok, on both accounts.

Going to lay out the rest of the wire tonight and hopefully get the top panel glued on!!

[joeybutts]

All wiring is now run! Waiting on the weather to warm up a bit before I finish up the gluing!

[---k---]

You mean you don't have a heater in your garage?

Dayton 3UG73 Heater, Utility

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-3UG73-Heater-Utility/dp/B000LDFBZK/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1326761353&sr=1-11

Works great. And made by Dayton too. Just don't do finishing with fumes that could ignite.

[joeybutts]

You mean you don't have a heater in your garage?

Dayton 3UG73 Heater, Utility

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-3UG73-Heater-Utility/dp/B000LDFBZK/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1326761353&sr=1-11

Works great. And made by Dayton too. Just don't do finishing with fumes that could ignite.

The apartment garage that I'm renting doesn't really lend itself well to putting a heater in since it is PACKED with stuff.

BUT! Good news is that my wife and I should be putting in an offer on a home very shortly! Probably in the next two or three weeks, so I will have PLENTY of room to do work.

If the garage isn't heated that we buy, I will definitely look into picking up a unit like the one you posted!

It's supposed to be about 65 today so I will get the top glued on. Just will need to get the baffle on (which....shhhhhh.....I may do IN the apt! )

[JonMarsh]

I sympathize with you- I live in a condo, have a garage packed with motorcycles and car, and do my build work out on the patio... at least the saw dust making stuff. Gluing and assembly clamping is in a dedicated bedroom, "the workshop".

[joeybutts]

I sympathize with you- I live in a condo, have a garage packed with motorcycles and car, and do my build work out on the patio... at least the saw dust making stuff. Gluing and assembly clamping is in a dedicated bedroom, "the workshop".

My brother! 8) Yeah, been doing it on patios, out in common areas and now out of 1/4 of a single car garage for almost 6 years now. I'm over it. :B

I wish I had more pics of the first place I had that I used to work on. It was a 6ft by 12 ft patio. I some how cut a full sheet of mdf out there on a table saw. Stupidest thing I had ever done. :lol:

[---k---]

I once saw someone post that they rent a storage locker at a local Public Storage type place and had it set up like a work shop. Said it worked out great, just drive over, roll up the door do their woodworking. Sounds like a great solution, but I keep thinking the management at the storage place would have a problem with it, insurance or something.

[joeybutts]

I've heard of this! Haven't seen anyone do it, and if it was cheaper than say $75 a month I would consider it but am paying $95 a month for the garage at my apt as it is.

COME ON HOUSE WITH 4 CAR GARAGE!!!! :P Ok...2 car.

[joeybutts]

Ok. An hour at a time.

Wires run for cabinet -





Got the terminal cup all done and ready for finish work -









Only got so much done the other night because of a slight mishap with my router. too much sawdust in the on-off switch.









All fixed and like new!

Time to finish the terminal cup and then can finish the rest of the cabinet and try it out. Ugh. I feel like I've been working on this since birth.

[cjd]

I've had that happen to my router as well - but only with MDF.

Getting closer.

[joeybutts]

I've had that happen to my router as well - but only with MDF.

Getting closer.

Creeping and crawling. :lol:

Began bondo work on terminal cup. Hoping to have it ready for primer by tomorrow night.

I hatttttte finish work. :M

[joeybutts]

CAN IT BE?!!??!?!? Joey is gluing up the CENTER CHANNEL!?!?!?!?

[cjd]

You can knit more sweaters while waiting for that glue to dry?

[joeybutts]

You can knit more sweaters while waiting for that glue to dry?

LOL. Had to go there did we, Christopher? :P

[---k---]

I'm just trying to figure out how he has been able to pull himself away from his Khans long enough to work on anything else.

[joeybutts]

I'm just trying to figure out how he has been able to pull himself away from his Khans long enough to work on anything else.

My loving wife kicks me out.

[joeybutts]

I know no one is going to believe me, even with a pic, but the baffle is glued on.

Just need to trim up and sand the cabinet and then I can test out this beast!!

P.S. HEAVIEST CENTER EVERRRRRRRRRRR.

[joeybutts]

This 84 lb beast is playing! Pics tomorrow. I'm tired. Hoping to get some time soon to really listen and open it up, but might not be for a while. Also need to reclaibrate Audyssey. Wait till you see the comparison pics between this and the ported tritrix. insane.

[joeybutts]

That is a real size recliner, not a kid size.



Oh that poor tritrix.







Temp set up that my wife woke up and wanted to kill me about since she went to bed before it was set up last night.





The Godfather approves.

[Sylvan]

DAMN! That's HUGE!

p.s. Nice amp.. I have one too! (5-channel)