Batman v Superman--no surprises

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  • Ovation
    Super Senior Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 2204

    #1

    Batman v Superman--no surprises

    If you liked Man of Steel (I did), you'll probably like this one. Its reach exceeds its grasp (attempts at critiquing the damage wrought in Man of Steel are worthwhile, if somewhat incomplete). I enjoyed the performances more than the story (something that often happens for me with these kinds of films). If you did not like Man of Steel, though, I wouldn't bother--you're likely to be disappointed.
  • madmac
    Ultra Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3122

    #2
    I enjoyed Man of steel but I am super hero'd out !! Not interested in these kinds of films anymore. They are kicking and regurgitating superhero films to death.........aimed at 13 year olds.
    Dan Madden :T

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    • Alaric
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 4151

      #3
      I wish Heavy Metal magazine would do some more films. I like the anti-hero stories they run.
      Lee

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      • aud19
        Twin Moderator Emeritus
        • Aug 2003
        • 16706

        #4
        I have to be in the right mood (and rarely am) for Michael Bay style CGI/explosion overdone eye/ear porn.

        Generally it's just too much IMO.
        Jason

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        • Chris D
          Ultra Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 16875

          #5
          I gave a "meh" to Man of Steel. Wasn't bad, (i.e. Fantastic Four) but just wasn't high quality like some other superhero flicks. I've heard some really bad things about this film, and it's getting a sorry 29% on the Tomatometer. I'll see it when it comes to BluRay. If nothing else, for my high school schoolmate Amy Adams. I haven't been very hopeful about this movie, in large part because of Affleck.
          CHRIS

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          • Ovation
            Super Senior Member
            • Sep 2004
            • 2204

            #6
            Originally posted by Chris D
            I gave a "meh" to Man of Steel. Wasn't bad, (i.e. Fantastic Four) but just wasn't high quality like some other superhero flicks. I've heard some really bad things about this film, and it's getting a sorry 29% on the Tomatometer. I'll see it when it comes to BluRay. If nothing else, for my high school schoolmate Amy Adams. I haven't been very hopeful about this movie, in large part because of Affleck.
            Affleck does a fine job. Even those who otherwise have little good to say about the film appreciate his performance. My biggest issue, as I've thought about it, lies mostly in an overly cramped story--easily enough material for two films here and it's clear the rush to "catch up with Marvel" is driving some of the excess cramming of story elements.

            The theme of "alien invasion/contact" and how such a thing, if it really occurred, would completely challenge how we view ourselves are A) an intriguing way of imagining Superman in the present (instead of his origins nearly 80 years ago) and B) something worthy of further exploration. Unfortunately, they are only modestly explored in Man of Steel and the new movie. Still, I prefer a flawed take on such themes than a re-hash of "the perfect hero" everyone seems inclined to expect of Superman.

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            • Chris D
              Ultra Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 16875

              #7
              FWIW, I watched "Ant Man" today. average at best, for a modern superhero movie, but still fun, with a little different comedy feel to it that suits Paul Rudd. Sounds like they're going to fit it into the Avenger series.
              CHRIS

              Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
              - Pleasantville

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              • P-Dub
                Office Moderator
                • Aug 2000
                • 6766

                #8
                Finally saw the movie. I have to agree with Ovation, so much story crammed into one movie. To me it seemed more a movie about Batman than Superman. And during the final climatic fight scene, I was yelling why don't you just say I gotta save my Mom? Well cause that would have cut out 10 minutes of fight scenes. I'm sorry if I'm spoiling anything, but I do expect some good story plots. Or maybe I watch too much of those 'Everything wrong with ...." videos.

                The real saving grace was Wonder Woman. You can pretty much figure this out as you watch the movie.

                I feel they just need to tell A story and stick with it and not introduce too many side things for fans and the like. But that's just me. Save your money and wait for the video.
                Paul

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                • P-Dub
                  Office Moderator
                  • Aug 2000
                  • 6766

                  #9
                  And in true How it Should Have Ended Style:
                  Watch at your own risk.....risk of laughing...:lol:

                  [youtube]pTuyfQ5CR4Q[/youtube]
                  Paul

                  There are three kinds of people in this world; those that can count, and those that can't.

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                  • Ovation
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 2204

                    #10
                    Just watched the extended cut. Warner dropped the ball big time by not releasing it theatrically. It's clearly the film Snyder intended as his final cut and many (not all) of the film's shortcomings are addressed. Where I'd give the theatrical cut 7/10, I'd give the extended cut 8.5/10. Much better at developing the Superman side of the story.

                    Reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven. Longer cut much better (not always the case but very much so for these two films).

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                    • Hdale85
                      Ultra Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 16120

                      #11
                      Yeah my buddy said the same thing, said the Theatrical cut left so much out, and the extended was a full 30+ minutes longer and filled in the movie so much better. We were going to rent it on our cable box last night and he said if they didn't have the extended to not even bother, so we're going to grab rent it on disc instead.

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                      • Hdale85
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 16120

                        #12
                        Finally got a chance to watch the extended cut version (took 2 rentals to finally get the right one) and I felt it was very good the wife enjoyed it as well. I'm not sure what was left out in the theatrical version but I can't imagine leaving out any part that I saw in the extended version.

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                        • P-Dub
                          Office Moderator
                          • Aug 2000
                          • 6766

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ovation
                          Just watched the extended cut. Warner dropped the ball big time by not releasing it theatrically. It's clearly the film Snyder intended as his final cut and many (not all) of the film's shortcomings are addressed. Where I'd give the theatrical cut 7/10, I'd give the extended cut 8.5/10. Much better at developing the Superman side of the story.

                          Reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven. Longer cut much better (not always the case but very much so for these two films).
                          This is good to know. I will have to watch this version. I tend to like extended versions as the story does get filled out more.
                          Paul

                          There are three kinds of people in this world; those that can count, and those that can't.

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