Club M&K

[Jariten]

Hey John !
Welcome back ^_^;;

Well I've been busy too...
geting some M&K stands ..(darn those ST-1s are heavy!!)


Will have to post pics once everything is setup again ^^;;;

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[Chetk]

Will have to post pics once everything is setup again ^^;;;

Please do!

[Jariten]

Hi Chet !

Hope you are enjoying your setup...
I finally .... received my ST-BS parts from my dealer...
o_O

it's all going up this week-end !
oh YEAH

Pics will follow ASAP !

^_^

[John Holmes]

I look forward to seeing the new setup as well. Let us know how the new stands work out.

[Jariten]

the stands are just great...
everything just got in place so easily !
and the baseboard did not come off the wall ^^;;;


I was even able to use the stands for the MPS2525 surrounds...which weigh 30lbs each
it's still standing !


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Pics VERY soon!

[John Holmes]

That's what we like to hear, a smooth install! I'm really glad it all worked out for you.

BTW, have you glanced the new refurbished store on the M&K site?

[Jariten]

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Hello everyone...
how are things?

Yup I just glanced at the "Used" store
some interesting things in there..as usual..^_^

don't think I need anything else right now though ^_^V

Need to scan pics now
I'll post as soon as possible!

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[John Holmes]

I hoping they add some nice used accessories, like stands and stuff. I've been itching to try the stands for my 750's but, they cost way too much for me to pay for them at msrp.

I wish I had a scanner and a camera to put up photos of my gear. Though I love seeing everyone elses! (hint,hint) :B

[Chetk]

:T

Hello everyone...
how are things?

Yup I just glanced at the "Used" store
some interesting things in there..as usual..^_^

don't think I need anything else right now though ^_^V

Need to scan pics now
I'll post as soon as possible!

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Hey Jariten! What's up with those pics? :B

[Chetk]

Well, since J isn't posting pics and I just bought a brand spankin' new digital camera, I thought I'd post pics of my setup. Sorry if they're so big for slow-connection viewers, but here goes:







I took these pics late last night and I didn't tidey up before taking the pictures. You can see the blockbuster case on the floor as well as the box to my digital camera. The books sitting on top of the MX-5000 subwoofer are reference material for the new drawers and shelves I'm building around the subwoofer in the coming months. Right now, the DVDs are just sitting on the floor, but the plan is to put them inside the drawers I'm building.

Hope you liked the pics. Feedback is welcomed.

[zeppelin]

Sorry for me to intrude here. I would really like you guys to Audition the M&K Speakers with SVS Subs. It really compliment each other. SVS Subs can be fine tune with the Behringer Feedback Destroyer(BFD). Try it and you never go back after this.

[Chetk]

Nothing new lately? Everybody's happy? :P

[John Holmes]

Hey ChetK,

Nice looking setup! Very neat and tidy. Great Job!!!


Hello Zeppelin,

I have and SVS with my M&K's. And am in sonic heaven! :B Though I do not have my sub equalized, I am completey satisfied with its sound. While there are a tons of great sounding speaker combos, the M&K's w/SVS rank up there with the best of them IMHO.

[gianni]

Chetk,

I just wandered over from Club Rotel and I have something new: 2 LCR's and a center 850. I spent quite a bit of time auditioning these and other speakers in my system including some considerably more expensive models from other manufacturers and the 850's really held their own. Plus, they match very nicely with my LCR 55's which have been moved to surround duty.

For some reason though, these 850's just don't get the credit they should. Whether it's the old "M&K's are for HT only" or some other story, people just seem to dismiss these as good all around speakers. As for myself, I'm very happy with them. Being a long time M&K fan, I made extra effort to make sure my bias was not clouding my judgement. After enough auditioning to drive anyone nuts, the M&K's were just to hard to say no to.

[ekkoville]

John Holmes, I have been doing some looking into M&K as I have always been a big fan from the write-ups, but have never heard them. Today, I noticed from the S150 manual that you can use a BF50 to somehow bi-amp your speakers. What, if anything, have you heard regarding this setup. Also, from the specs of some of these speakers, the S150 being one of them, the numbers seem to tell me that M&K's are power ready with peaks of 400W being handled. Can't wait to audition some.

Erik

[ToddAnisman]

John Holmes, I have been doing some looking into M&K as I have always been a big fan from the write-ups, but have never heard them. Today, I noticed from the S150 manual that you can use a BF50 to somehow bi-amp your speakers. What, if anything, have you heard regarding this setup. Also, from the specs of some of these speakers, the S150 being one of them, the numbers seem to tell me that M&K's are power ready with peaks of 400W being handled. Can't wait to audition some.

Erik

Hi Erik-

Hmm... I acn't speak for the s-150, but there is no way that I can seer to Biamp my MPS2550 (S-250's) without modification. tell you what- I am heading to LV for the NAB show, will be stopping by thee M&K Booth, and I'll ask!

-Todd A.

[ekkoville]

Todd, that would be great! The .pdf file on the S150 gave an indication of biamping with this BF50 and seem a little confusing considering I can't find it on the website.

[John Holmes]

Hello ekkoville,

Sorry for taking awhile to get back to you.

It has been my understanding, M&K didn't support bi-amping. However, It has been quite sometime since I've read up on their theories or offerings.

I'll nose around and see if I can find out something. And hopefully, Todd will bring us back some info from the show. :T

[Jariten]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Back!

Hi Everyone...
Bi-Amping the M&Ks ...that would be interesting...


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[Jariten]

Hmmm location...I should change ^^;;;

ChetK ...that's a clean stup...congrats!

^_^

[Chetk]

Thanks a lot man! I thought this thread was dead! I knew Jariten would come back and revive it! Here's hoping it doesn't die from here on out.

[Lex]

Hey Jariten, been a while, how's NY? Contact me sometime to catch up.

Doug

[Jariten]

ChetK

I hope it doesn't !

Lex !

Yeah it's been a while!
NY is good

Work is keeping me VERY busy.....

Wifey is out of town..had some friends over....and did some movie Viewing...

=))))

[John Holmes]

Nice to have you back Jariten!

[Jariten]

It's been a while ^^;;;


Sorry about that...

so ..I still have my 7.1 M&K setup
and it's not going anywhere ^^

[Jariten]

Happy New Year To All !


^_^

[rich1231]

Hi everyone,

can anyone suggest a online retailer in the US that I can get M&K S-150's from Im UK based but have friends and family in the US that will happily take delivery and ship them off to me.

UK prices are around $1400 a piece.. which is daft.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers

Richard

[gonzalc3]

Hi!

Just bought the S150 speaker system and it is way superior than the
750.

[Chetk]

I'm glad everybody seems to be enjoying their S-150s. Mine are still kicking buttocks and taking names. :lol:

I've also been thinking of buying some SW-150s for wall mounting behind my couch to make it a 7.1 system. Especially with DTS-HD and DD+ coming. I think more titles are going to take advantage of 7.1 systems and hopefully in a lossless manner.

I'm really looking forward to hearing some lossless audio from my M&Ks. How many here have used the S-150s with something like DVD-A or SACD? Is there a major difference?

[caleb]

rich1231,
If you think you pay over the odds for M&K in England, you want to come down to South Africa pal.

This inporter here is a rip off merchant par excellence!.

Anything which costs 100 dollars in America will be for sale here for at least 350 ! ! ! !

That's why I refude to buy from him and rather go to the States and bring the stuff in myself.

Oh by the way he is a liar on top of being a rip off merchant - so I hope he is reading this forum.

[gonzalc3]

"How many here have used the S-150s with something like DVD-A or SACD? Is there a major difference?"

I have use them with both. If its very well recorded it will simply sound awsome, but if its a very poor recording it sounds like crap. The speaker system is very revealing. I have the S150s plug into a Marantz SR9600 and use the ONkyo DV SP1000 as my source.

DVD-A and SACD are superior than any CD. Now if you want to see the difference between DVD-A and SACD, the SACD tends to be softer. I did an A/B comparison between the Diana Krall DVD-A and SACD using the same song, as well as others, and simply had the same result. I wouldn't say that one is superior to the other, as it depends a lot on your own taste.

[Chetk]

Chris, thanks for the DVD-A vs. SACD vs. CD comparison.

I'm mostly interested in the comparison to CD because I'm curious if I'll be able to tell a difference between the current Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS to the new DD+ or Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD.

By reading your response, it looks promising. I can't wait to hear DolbyTrueHD or DTS-HD on my S-150P's. I hope I can tell a difference. After all, I love my 150P's, but I still haven't been able to get them to sound as "good" as the movie theater. The closest I've gotten was LOTR EE's in DTS mode.

[gonzalc3]

Chetk,

For a few weeks I had the Toshiba HD A1 in my system and tested a couple of DVDs recorded with DD+ and SDDVDs. Some examples include the last Samurai, Serenity,Phantom of the Opera, Apollo 13 and others.
The DD+ to me is not a day and night difference yet. It is definetely richer than DD and has a wider dynamic range.

The reasond on why you haven't been able to get them to sound as good as the movie theater is because it really depends on the quality of the transfer. The S150s are very revealing and show the effort of the artist when mastering the CDs or DVDs.
If its recorded like crap you will hear crap, but if they are recorded well you are in for real treat.

[Chetk]

Chetk,

The reasond on why you haven't been able to get them to sound as good as the movie theater is because it really depends on the quality of the transfer. The S150s are very revealing and show the effort of the artist when mastering the CDs or DVDs.
If its recorded like crap you will hear crap, but if they are recorded well you are in for real treat.

Thanks.

But, for the sake of argument, if it's Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD (eventually) they will be lossless and that shouldn't matter. Right?

[gonzalc3]

The new formats offer the opportunity to have a substantial improvement in the audio. But at the end of the day it really will depend on how good the sound engineer recorded the material.

[Chetk]

The new formats offer the opportunity to have a substantial improvement in the audio. But at the end of the day it really will depend on how good the sound engineer recorded the material.

Yeah. That makes sense. I suppose the mix for the theatrical release is a totally different mix down for the home theater release, even if it is into a lossy codec. Great discussion. :T

[Jariten]

So..this thread is still going on.....COOL!~
I'm back again..after another year of crazy work.....
ANYWAY.....
Yes the S-150s are just great...
As long as the Sound engineer knows what is doing....
=)
still enjoying my 7.1 system....of which I still need to post pics of.....
<--- shame...
@_@

Happy listening

[Rolyasm]

Hello all,
What size rooms are you using your 150's in? I have a 18 wide, 24 long and 9 high room. Talking with M&K it seems like the 150's may not be big enough. The 250's are cool, but a buck or two more. Anyone with a simliar sized room that feels the 150's just aren't big enough. Also, looking at the 150 tripole for sides and the mini-towers for the rear. I will be setting up for a two-row theater and want the back to have enough surround? Anyone used the 250 surrounds? Holy Crap. They are more than the LCR speakers. Wow. The are also an option.
Roly

[John Holmes]

Hey Jariten, glad you are still around!


Hello Rolyasm,

The reason M&K may have made that statment, could be that, their speakers are designed from a "near monitor" prospective. Of course, I am just guessing this may be the reason.

Now with that beaing said...my room is almost identcal to yours. I have the lower end 750's and have no problem with them filling the room. Though, my listening diistance from the L/C/R speakes are only about 8ft.

I don't have M&K for my sides or back so, I cannot really comment the tri-poles.

[Rolyasm]

John,
Have you listened to the speakers from around 18 feet back? Would you mind trying it and see what you think. You are correct about the "near Monitor" perspective. M&K guy was under the impression I just might max out the speakers and still want more volume. Not sure. What are you using for surrounds, processors?
Roly

[John Holmes]

Rolyasm,

No problem. I'll give it a shot this evening.

My surrounds are Fosgate Audionics SD180 di/bi-poles (used as di-poles). My backs are Presidians (got them at Radio Shack as a temp fix for 7.1). My processor is a B&K Reference 50.

[John Holmes]

Well, I gave them a listen from 18ft. I'm no "Golden Ear" but, I didn't hear anything to make me believe any less involvement was happening at 18ft. They were still clear sounding and able to deliver an immersed soundstage.

However, my speakers have a different design philosphy. The S-150's have a disspersion pattern, which is much more controled. So take my test with a grain of salt.

[Rolyasm]

Thanks John,
You are right. It might not be a fair comparison. Different dispersion patterns and design may make the 2 very different in response. For some reason I was thinking you had the 150's. Guess my brain is failing if I can't keep track of those things from the first to the last page of a thread. 8O
Roly

[Jariten]

Rolyasm

When I auditionned the M&K speakers @ Denon Columbia back in Japan , the room was very similar to your room size..

the M&K 150 had no problem at all and the SS150 were used as sides
this was a 5.1 setup with the S150 as LCR and SS150 for surrounds and MX 5000THX MKII as a sub...
the system was composed of the Denon DVD 5000THX and the Denon AV1 surround processor/amp combo

my current stup consists of the S-150 LCR, the MPS2525 (same as SS250) for the sides, SS150 for rears and MX 5000THX MKII for the sub...

though my listening area is not as big as yours...I typically top out at -20dB on the Parasound C1 before wife walks in and complains.../plaster starting to come off walls etc....

I use a Parasound 2205A for the LCR and sides, and 2 Marantz MX500 for the rears...

(curretnly in JFK airport...someone walking with a car audio amplifier unde rhis arm..o_O)


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[Jariten]

Gah...typos...

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