Rotel RB-1582 200 watts or 250 watts ????

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  • audiofiyle
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14

    #1

    Rotel RB-1582 200 watts or 250 watts ????

    I have been waiting for a long time for these new class a/b amps. I have been
    reading reports that the new rb-1582 was going to be 250watts per channel, but according to Rotels website it is 200 watts for $1500.00.

    Anyone know the real deal? Looking through some of the different threads I
    am getting mixed info.
  • jalyra
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 43

    #2
    You should go with Rotel's official site which states 200W/Ch.

    I think it was hifiguy who mentioned 250W/Ch based on a Rotel Sales Representative, but unfortunately sales people are not that dependable. Do you know if you can already put an order for these new A/B amps?

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    • hifiguymi
      Super Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 1532

      #3
      Originally posted by jalyra
      You should go with Rotel's official site which states 200W/Ch.

      I think it was hifiguy who mentioned 250W/Ch based on a Rotel Sales Representative, but unfortunately sales people are not that dependable. Do you know if you can already put an order for these new A/B amps?
      Rude much? :roll:

      Half of the info I have says it's 200 x 2 and the other half says 250 x 2. Since Rotel has it listed as 200 x 2 on the website I'd go with that. Some of the preliminary info I have could have been modified from the RB-1572 and the power spec not changed.

      All of the new stereo 15 Series can be ordered. Most everything ships mid May with the RB-1582 shipping at the end of May.

      Eric

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      • audiofiyle
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14

        #4
        I did hear on this forum that the rb-1582 was going to be 250 watts, but I also
        got the same info on other sites too. If you google rb-1582, you will see conflicting information on these new a/b amps. I am sure that any info trickling into dealers was not definite.

        I admit that I am a little disappointed that the new amp won't be more powerful than my 1080. What am I getting for $1500.00. I think I will be
        shopping for a good used 1090.

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        • jalyra
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 43

          #5
          Originally posted by hifiguymi
          Rude much? :roll:
          Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. I was actually referring to your source, not you. But as a dealer you also qualify as a "sales people". You are a dealer, aren't you?

          Well any way, let's focus on the positive here. For me that's the new stereo stuff being already available.

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          • style
            Super Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1562

            #6
            Hallo,

            the new 15 serie in A/B or D classe is different vs. the "old" serie10.

            Why you say that the new 1582 with 200(or250) watt is not "at the leve" from the Rb1080 ??????
            the new 1575 or 1572 with 250watt for each channel is better vs.the 500watt delivered from the RB1092/91!!

            Is not Only Watt!!!!! you muss listen and after you can make your decision...
            watt is not quality!!!

            see a pass Labs with 2 x 30 watt (YES 30watt pro channel) is a world better or the 5x500watt from Rotel and the 30watt. PassLabs make you scary.

            Style

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            • audiofiyle
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14

              #7
              I just picked up a like new rb-1090, and i'm not looking back. Holy
              smokes this thing is powerful!! What a monster. I have it powering my
              Vandersteen 2ce sigs, and they sound like different speakers. All I can
              say is that this amp has a lush, warm sound with a hugh soundstage.

              When I originally wrote this post I said I was waiting for the new class
              a/b amps. I'm glad I didn't. This amp just blows my mind with it's sound
              quality. My friend was letting me demo an older Krell ksa 100 that he is
              looking to sell. The krell is a class A amp rated at 100 watt per channel.
              The Rotel blew it away!!!

              I have heard that the 1090 is class A for up to 30 watts, and then changes to class a/b. Does anyone know if this is true?

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              • Zoran
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 113

                #8
                Originally posted by audiofiyle

                When I originally wrote this post I said I was waiting for the new class
                a/b amps. I'm glad I didn't. This amp just blows my mind with it's sound
                quality. My friend was letting me demo an older Krell ksa 100 that he is
                looking to sell. The krell is a class A amp rated at 100 watt per channel.
                The Rotel blew it away!!!

                I have heard that the 1090 is class A for up to 30 watts, and then changes to class a/b. Does anyone know if this is true?

                RB-1090 has been not designed to work in Class A at all. No way to achieve this, even on first 30Watts. I own this behemont and can say it's truly best buy mega-watt amp last ten years, but forget Class A (techically, every amp works in Class A at the lowest levels, but without any listenable benfit).

                Be carefull brother in statements like above (Krell KSA amp outperformed by Rotel, even the big 1090)... Widespread laughing is usually the sole product.

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                • audiofiyle
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Zoran
                  RB-1090 has been not designed to work in Class A at all. No way to achieve this, even on first 30Watts. I own this behemont and can say it's truly best buy mega-watt amp last ten years, but forget Class A (techically, every amp works in Class A at the lowest levels, but without any listenable benfit).

                  Be carefull brother in statements like above (Krell KSA amp outperformed by Rotel, even the big 1090)... Widespread laughing is usually the sole product.
                  I'm glad you like your 1090. As far as the 1090 running in class A, I could
                  give 2 s--ts. I only judge the amp by it's sound.

                  As far as stepping on any krell owners toes. Too bad!! The 1090 sounds better than the ksa 100. My ears are the only ears that I trust, and that is all that matters to me. I could also care less about some high end audio
                  mag review. Even though I can afford the Krell I prefer the Rotel.

                  Over the years I have listened to many high dollar amps in my system.
                  Some I liked others I wasn't as impressed. The krell is just one of many
                  that the Rotel has bested. I have heard amps that I do prefer over the Rotel, but there are few. All in all, I speak what I think. My ears are as golden as they get.

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                  • mjb
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 1485

                    #10
                    I'm glad you're so happy with it. As others have said, don't read too much (if anything) into the statement that the first 30 watts are class A. It has to do with the way the final devices are biased, not with the amplifier class per se. The RB-1090 is a class A/B amplifier.
                    - Mike

                    Main System:
                    B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
                    Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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                    • Zoran
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 113

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mjb
                      I'm glad you're so happy with it. As others have said, don't read too much (if anything) into the statement that the first 30 watts are class A. It has to do with the way the final devices are biased, not with the amplifier class per se. The RB-1090 is a class A/B amplifier.

                      Yes, typical A/B design, lowish biased so that remains under-average warm. Good thing for longeivity, besides green issues...

                      I have stated overhere several times: I love Rotel. So that, RB-1090 remains a keeper in my place, no mather what else I have or listen... Until one beautifull day, when Rotel will unveil a full balanced at-least-45-kilos beast. Given the current Rotel comic D-class toys production line, I shall wait several decades probably... :evil: :evil: :evil:

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                      • audiofiyle
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14

                        #12
                        I really really love the sound of my 1090. I also own a 1080, and 1075.
                        While I do notice they have the similar sound characteristics of Rotel family
                        amplifiers the 1090 has that endless headroom, and bottom end that one has
                        to hear to appreciate it's capabilities.

                        I do notice when my 1090 is fully warmed up, and playing for awhile it does remain slightly warm, but the right side of the amp always feels a little more
                        hot than the left side. Is this normal or something I should be concerned with?

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