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  • Mikael
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 379

    #1

    Does anybody got pictures from CES of new Rotel 2 CH. stuff

    Hi guys
    Do you have pictures or links to the new stereo stuff in the 15 series?

    Best Mikael
  • bigburner
    Super Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 2649

    #2

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    • Mikael
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 379

      #3
      Thanks, but i ment the new 2ch stuff, pre amp etc.New stuff showed first time at CES 2009.

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      • jalyra
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 43

        #4
        I was going to ask the same question

        I'm specially interested in HQ pictures of the RC-1580 in black, the rear of the preamp and of the CD-player.

        any chance the CD player is also a SACD player?

        [This is my first post, but I've been reading this forum for a couple of years].

        Greetings,

        JALyra

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        • bigburner
          Super Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 2649

          #5
          This is the only picture of the RC-1580 that I could find.

          The RC-1580 looks exactly the same as my RC-1082 except for the BYPASS light.

          Nigel.
          Attached Files

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          • jalyra
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 43

            #6
            Thank you bigburner, that's the kind of image I want to see but in black.
            I'm already sold for this unit, just trying to decide wich color I really want.
            Also, I would like to know if the bypass is implemented in one of the original RC-1082 inputs, or if it adds another set inputs.

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            • Kevin D
              Ultra Senior Member
              • Oct 2002
              • 4601

              #7
              No Rotel on the show floor and no camera's in the suite.

              Gotta say the pictures of the silver do not do it justice. It's different then the 10 series, but is still very nice.

              I'm not going to say too much about the new stuff, I'll wait until press coverage to see what all they are officially talking about.

              New stereo stuff looks good. They're hoping to have it out by March. The RC-1580 is the high end pre-amp, the CD player is slot loading, and class A/B stereo amps are NOT going away.

              The new stereo equipment is not based on the 10 series stuff. Pretty much an all new design.

              There's also some other new things they are thinking about that won't be out until way later in the year, but the descriptions are nice!

              Kevin D.

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              • jalyra
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 43

                #8
                Slot loading??? Arrgghhh!!!! I've never liked that mechanism. Is that a good thing? Whenever I used it in my power book I always felt it would damage my discs. I had to admit that it never did, but just that feeling stops me from playing my best CDs in the mac.
                Would the CD player play SACDs???

                OK Kevin, you just say you would wait for the official press release, do you know when that would be announced?

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                • Ken49r
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 312

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jalyra
                  any chance the CD player is also a SACD player?
                  Would the CD player play SACDs???
                  I highly doubt it. It seems from Rotels history they support DVD-A but not SACD. With Blu-ray audio on the horizon I would be happy to see a Blu-ray player soon. The SQ is that good. :T

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                  • Mikael
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 379

                    #10
                    Hi Kevin

                    Do you have any idea when the press coverage will be out?
                    And please say what the new stuff is going to be, I hope for a new RSP1098 and a Blue Ray is that part of it?

                    Mikael

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                    • Kevin D
                      Ultra Senior Member
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 4601

                      #11
                      No idea when they are releasing press info. Might not be done during CES at all. I'm choosing to say too little info rather then too much.

                      Kevin D.

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                      • jalyra
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 43

                        #12
                        OK, so we just have to wait and speculate in the mean time.

                        Kevin, said "The RC-1580 is the high end pre-amp" I think that phrase has been used by Rotel before to describe the RC-1090 and that implied among other things balanced inputs. It would be great if they are back in the new preamp.

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                        • callmebob
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jalyra
                          any chance the CD player is also a SACD player?

                          Sorry, no SACD support. It plays HDCD's and MP3 :roll: CD's just fine though. Very sleek front panel with the slot-loader mech imo.

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                          • audiofiyle
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kevin D
                            No Rotel on the show floor and no camera's in the suite.

                            Gotta say the pictures of the silver do not do it justice. It's different then the 10 series, but is still very nice.

                            I'm not going to say too much about the new stuff, I'll wait until press coverage to see what all they are officially talking about.

                            New stereo stuff looks good. They're hoping to have it out by March. The RC-1580 is the high end pre-amp, the CD player is slot loading, and class A/B stereo amps are NOT going away.

                            The new stereo equipment is not based on the 10 series stuff. Pretty much an all new design.

                            There's also some other new things they are thinking about that won't be out until way later in the year, but the descriptions are nice!

                            Kevin D.
                            Kevin, this is great news that Rotel is not abandoning there class A/B amps.
                            I know you really can't talk about anything now, but I really hope they add
                            a few more big boy a/b class amps to the line. I love my Rotel components
                            and really don't want them to change a thing. I'm now looking to set up a
                            dedicated 2 channel system, and I am anxiously waiting to see what they
                            come up with. Thanks for any info.

                            Tommy

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                            • hifiguymi
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1532

                              #15
                              I don't have any pictures but here is what my rep has sent me on the new Rotel gear. The stuff below is in the pipeline and things are pretty much set. The prices are in US dollars and could change but probably won't.

                              Stereo Preamplifiers
                              RC-1580 Stereo Preamplifier replaces RC-1080 $1,300.00 March (with unity gain option - aka HT bypass)
                              RC-1550 Stereo Preamplifier replaces RC-1070 $ 700.00 March

                              Stereo Power Amplifers
                              RB-1552 Stereo Power Amplifier 2 x 120 Class AB $ 900.00 March
                              RB-1582 Stereo Power Amplifier 2 x 250 Class AB $1,500.00 April

                              CD Player
                              RCD-1520 CD Player w slot loading mechanism $1,000.00 March

                              Integrated Amplifier
                              RA-1520 Integrated Amplifier 2 x 60 Class AB $1,000.00 March

                              Tuner
                              RT-1520 Internet Tuner $800.00 June

                              The stuff below is not set and doesn't exist yet. These pieces may not see the light of day so take this stuff with a grain of salt. If they do these, or something similar, they would more than likely be announced at CEDIA in September. It doesn't sound like there is a Blu-ray on the horizon. Since that is a product category that everyone is in a race to a price of zero, there's not much that Rotel could do to one to justify the price they would have to charge for one.

                              Surround Receiver
                              RSX-1570 Surround Receiver 3 x 250 + 4 x 100 Class D, Multi zone, 5U $TBD - Q4 2009

                              Surround Sound Preamp
                              RSP-1590 High end pre/processor with advanced feature set $TBD - but target is $4,000.00 - Q4 2009

                              System Remote
                              RR-1500 System Remote 2-way, RF with RS-232 and IR outputs $TBD - Q4 2009

                              Eric

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                              • jalyra
                                Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 43

                                #16
                                So if I understand Rotel's naming convention correctly, RB-1582 is better than RB-1572. But in this case both amps are rated at 250 W/Ch. Does this mean that Rotel itself is publicly recognizing that the Class A/B amps are indeed better than their Class D? I was waiting for the RC-1580 and hoping to match it with a RB-1572, but now I have to listen or read reviews on both power amps to decide which one I'll like.

                                [By the way, my reciever just died last weekend and since I can't live without music, I just bought an RC-06 to use it temporarily, I'll be posting a review of that little preamp.]

                                JALyra

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                                • B&W_Group_Fan
                                  Member
                                  • Sep 2008
                                  • 45

                                  #17
                                  Eric,

                                  Thanks for the info. Do you know what happened to the HD tuner (RT-1510)?
                                  HT
                                  Rotel RSX-1560
                                  B&W Signature 7NT (x6) | B&W FPM6 (center) | Velodyne MiniVee
                                  Panasonic TH-46PZ800U | Panasonic DMP-BD55
                                  Apple TV

                                  Kitchen / Dining
                                  Rotel RB-1510 (RSX-1560 providing source)
                                  B&W CCM 65 (x4)

                                  Control
                                  URC MX-880 w/ MRF-350

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                                  • Kevin D
                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 4601

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by B&W_Group_Fan
                                    Eric,

                                    Thanks for the info. Do you know what happened to the HD tuner (RT-1510)?
                                    They were showing a mockup of one. Not sure if the 1520 replaces it, or sits beside it.

                                    Kevin D.

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                                    • hifiguymi
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2007
                                      • 1532

                                      #19
                                      On the info I received it didn't mention the RT-1510. I pretty much copy and pasted what I was sent.

                                      Eric

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                                      • jalyra
                                        Member
                                        • Jan 2009
                                        • 43

                                        #20
                                        Eric, do you know if the date (march, april) is for the official press release or for availability?

                                        Regarding the RT-1510, the PR site is showing a high resolution image, I don't think they'll do it for just a mockup, but who knows?

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                                        • B&W_Group_Fan
                                          Member
                                          • Sep 2008
                                          • 45

                                          #21
                                          Thanks guys.
                                          HT
                                          Rotel RSX-1560
                                          B&W Signature 7NT (x6) | B&W FPM6 (center) | Velodyne MiniVee
                                          Panasonic TH-46PZ800U | Panasonic DMP-BD55
                                          Apple TV

                                          Kitchen / Dining
                                          Rotel RB-1510 (RSX-1560 providing source)
                                          B&W CCM 65 (x4)

                                          Control
                                          URC MX-880 w/ MRF-350

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                                          • hifiguymi
                                            Super Senior Member
                                            • Mar 2007
                                            • 1532

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jalyra
                                            Eric, do you know if the date (march, april) is for the official press release or for availability?

                                            Regarding the RT-1510, the PR site is showing a high resolution image, I don't think they'll do it for just a mockup, but who knows?

                                            http://www.nicollpr.com/ROTEL/Files/...ges/RT1510.jpg
                                            What I have says ship date. It could always change however.

                                            As far as the model number, they could have changed it or the RT-1510 could be still born. I guess we will find out soon enough. My rep is coming into my store on the 4th of Feb so I will ask him.

                                            Eric

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                                            • Mikael
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Aug 2007
                                              • 379

                                              #23
                                              Thanks HiFiguymi
                                              For the info of the new Rotel stuff,I for one is looking very much forward to the RSP1590 and the new A/B amps, and the slot loaded cd player.
                                              No news on a DVD player in the 15 series?

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                                              • audiofiyle
                                                Junior Member
                                                • Jan 2009
                                                • 14

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by hifiguymi
                                                What I have says ship date. It could always change however.

                                                As far as the model number, they could have changed it or the RT-1510 could be still born. I guess we will find out soon enough. My rep is coming into my store on the 4th of Feb so I will ask him.

                                                Eric
                                                Hifi guy, Nice work, and thanks for the info. If the 1582 a/b amp materializes,
                                                I will be the first one in line to buy it. I am so psyched!! I can't wait to hear more info on this new product. Any updates from you are very much appreciated.

                                                I often wonder why Rotel is so hush hush about there upcoming products.
                                                They can't be that worried about the competition. They have a great reputation, and great quality. I could afford to spend more on my components, but my ears tell me there is reason for it. Thanks again.

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                                                • hifiguymi
                                                  Super Senior Member
                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                  • 1532

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mikael
                                                  Thanks HiFiguymi
                                                  For the info of the new Rotel stuff,I for one is looking very much forward to the RSP1590 and the new A/B amps, and the slot loaded cd player.
                                                  No news on a DVD player in the 15 series?
                                                  Remember that the RSP-1590 is not a real product yet so, as I said, take it with a grain of salt.

                                                  I doubt you will see a disc player other than the CD player. DVD players don't sell at all anymore and it didn't sound like Rotel is interested in doing a BD player.

                                                  Eric

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                                                  • hifiguymi
                                                    Super Senior Member
                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                    • 1532

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by audiofiyle
                                                    Hifi guy, Nice work, and thanks for the info. If the 1582 a/b amp materializes,
                                                    I will be the first one in line to buy it. I am so psyched!! I can't wait to hear more info on this new product. Any updates from you are very much appreciated.

                                                    I often wonder why Rotel is so hush hush about there upcoming products.
                                                    They can't be that worried about the competition. They have a great reputation, and great quality. I could afford to spend more on my components, but my ears tell me there is reason for it. Thanks again.
                                                    The RB-1582 is a real product and will ship in the next 60 to 90 days. Put you order in with your dealer now if you want to get the first one.

                                                    As for Rotel being quiet about product launches, I think they have learned from mistakes in the past. Both theirs and other companies. It's best to talk about it when you can deliver it. If you get people excited and can't deliver on a promised date all you do is piss people off.

                                                    Eric

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                                                    • Kevin D
                                                      Ultra Senior Member
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 4601

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by audiofiyle
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                                                      I often wonder why Rotel is so hush hush about there upcoming products.
                                                      They can't be that worried about the competition. They have a great reputation, and great quality. I could afford to spend more on my components, but my ears tell me there is reason for it. Thanks again.
                                                      You can look at this thread for the answer. The RT-1510 was never announced by Rotel (people found it by PR group websites and other marketing pictures). Now that the 1520 might be superseding it, people are all ready asking what happened.

                                                      If that is the case, it won't be long before people start complaining (but I don't NEED an internet tuner, I'm sure the 1510 would have been cheaper, why won't they just build the 1510.... etc..)

                                                      Things haven't been the same ever since they announced the RVE-1070, and released the RVE-1060.

                                                      Kevin D.

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                                                      • B&W_Group_Fan
                                                        Member
                                                        • Sep 2008
                                                        • 45

                                                        #28
                                                        Hi Kevin,

                                                        My question was mostly one of curiosity. Rotel features the RT-1510 heavily on their website in many of the 15 series pictures. Some examples:

                                                        http://www.rotel.com/NA/Products/Pro...75&Tab=1&Pic=5
                                                        http://www.rotel.com/NA/Products/Pro...74&Tab=1&Pic=3
                                                        http://www.rotel.com/NA/products/Pro...80&Tab=1&Pic=6

                                                        I just found it curious that they would feature it in their own photographs and then abandon it.

                                                        For sure, people shouldn't count on anything as being fact until the official product announcements are released. A bit of speculation can be fun, though, if not taken too seriously

                                                        I'll have to dig into the history of the RVE-1060/1070 as I'm not familiar with it.
                                                        HT
                                                        Rotel RSX-1560
                                                        B&W Signature 7NT (x6) | B&W FPM6 (center) | Velodyne MiniVee
                                                        Panasonic TH-46PZ800U | Panasonic DMP-BD55
                                                        Apple TV

                                                        Kitchen / Dining
                                                        Rotel RB-1510 (RSX-1560 providing source)
                                                        B&W CCM 65 (x4)

                                                        Control
                                                        URC MX-880 w/ MRF-350

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                                                        • Nolan B
                                                          Super Senior Member
                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                          • 1792

                                                          #29
                                                          I like the idea of slot loading.


                                                          Any chance Rotel will make a BD player?

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                                                          • Kevin D
                                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 4601

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by B&W_Group_Fan
                                                            Hi Kevin,

                                                            My question was mostly one of curiosity. Rotel features the RT-1510 heavily on their website in many of the 15 series pictures. Some examples:

                                                            I just found it curious that they would feature it in their own photographs and then abandon it.

                                                            For sure, people shouldn't count on anything as being fact until the official product announcements are released. A bit of speculation can be fun, though, if not taken too seriously

                                                            I'll have to dig into the history of the RVE-1060/1070 as I'm not familiar with it.
                                                            If you look closely, you'll see it has the exact same information on the screen as the PR photo Jalyra posted. Had the exact same information on the display unit I saw at CES (with only a power plug on the back).

                                                            Chances are, it's one of a few pieces floating around made up just for looks. I would imagine a lot of the 15 series pieces in the photos are fake as well.

                                                            If I were to guess, since Sirius/XM is in a state of flux and the first dual tuners a little ways off (they just showed the first model at CES), they might have ditched including satellite radio for internet radio (or maybe both).

                                                            Kevin D.

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                                                            • Kevin D
                                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 4601

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Vancouver
                                                              Any chance Rotel will make a BD player?
                                                              I highly doubt it anytime soon. Looks like Classe is skipping it for now as well.

                                                              Kevin D.

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                                                              • Antlerlaner
                                                                Junior Member
                                                                • Jan 2009
                                                                • 1

                                                                #32
                                                                This is the only pics of what seems to be the RCD-1520 CD player that I have found.



                                                                I have a Sunfire Symphonic Reference Amp that I would like to keep while adding a new pre and CD player. I am looking at the new Rotel 2 channel. Anyone have any experience with Sunfire/Rotel combination. New speakers will be B&W/804 or paridigm as it stands today.

                                                                Thanks for any direction..

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