A taste of the new Rotel 15 Series

[hifiguymi]

Here is an article that has a few of the new Rotel pieces that will be in the new 15 Series. This is what is going to be shown at CEDIA and there will be more to follow as time goes on.

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6590870.html

Eric

[Aussie Geoff]

Thanks,

Its good to see evidence of the big new Rotel product development comming on stream... For the last 2 years they (like many of the other smaller reciever and processor manufactueres have struggled to get into the new HDMI based sound codecs etc, largely being dependent on chipset manafacturers such as Cirus who were extremely late with key products etc...

Geoff

[artv4]

i am going to my audio shop here in virginia to pre-order the RSX-1550

[esaleris]

That's a lot of Class D. Summary of the press release, for easy reference:

RSP-1570 (Pre-Pro) - 7.1 channel, 4xHDMI 1.3a, 3U - $2,200
RSX-1560 (AVR) - 7.1 channel 7x100 Class D, 4xHDMI 1.3a, 4U - $2,600
RSX-1550 (AVR) - 7.1 channel 5x100 Class A/B, 4xHDMI 1.3a, ?U - $2,000

RB-1572 - 2x250 Class D, 2U - $1,300
RB-1562 - 2x100 Class D, 2U - $800
RB-1510 - 2x65 Class D, 1U - $500

RMB-1512 - 12x100 Class D, 3U - $3,000
RMB-1575 - 5x250 Class D, 3U - $2,800
RMB-1565 - 5x100 Class D, 2U - $1,300
RMB-1506 - 6x60 Class A/B - $1,000

[hifiguymi]

i am going to my audio shop here in virginia to pre-order the RSX-1550

My rep said product should be available in 30 - 60 days depending on model. There is a handful of products from the 10 Series that Rotel has run out of already.

Eric

[artv4]

My rep said product should be available in 30 - 60 days depending on model. There is a handful of products from the 10 Series that Rotel has run out of already.

Eric

my rep said rotel has not released any dates as of yet except for cedia

[mjb]

Will the 15 replace the 10 series? I guess not.
Still no news of a RSP-1099, or some such??

[Mark_C.]

Note that the RMB-1575 is 5x250 wpc at 4 ohms??? What does that translate to at 8 ohms, 100 wpc?

[Mikael]

I certainly don't hope that the new 15 series will be replacing the 10 series it's butt ugly.Old wine on new bottles,same facia but differents sides.(it's a Krell look-a-like)
Why not try a hole new design?

I do hope that we will see a RSP 1099 with the same specs as the 1570.
Just my 2 cents

[artv4]

here is another article

http://blog.svconline.com/briefingroom/2008/08/28/rotel-introduces-the-new-15-series-home-audio-components/

[markov]

Note that the RMB-1575 is 5x250 wpc at 4 ohms??? What does that translate to at 8 ohms, 100 wpc?

Based on the other specs and pricing I'm guessing its a missprint and actually 5x250 into 8 ohms. (based on artv4's linked article this is confirmed)

I like the new look and would love to see the black.

[artv4]

Based on the other specs and pricing I'm guessing its a missprint and actually 5x250 into 8 ohms. (based on artv4's linked article this is confirmed)

I like the new look and would love to see the black.

I CONCUR SEEING THE NEW PIECES IN BLACK. I WILL MISS THE HANDLES

[artv4]

one more link

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/28/rotel-debuting-15-series-of-receivers-amplifiers-and-more/

[hifiguymi]

Will the 15 replace the 10 series? I guess not.
Still no news of a RSP-1099, or some such??

Yes the 15 Series is replacing the 10 Series. All of the up coming models that are being announced at CEDIA are just the first wave. There are more coming (I don't know what they are as of yet) down the road. I would think you will see a replacement for the RSP-1098 in the future. I will try to find out more from my rep once CEDIA is done.

Eric

[Leef DaLucky]

there was a pdf on that engadgetHD report.
Pretty nice pic of the RSX-1550

http://www.nicollpr.com/ROTEL/Files/15%20Series/Rotel_15_Series_Press_Release.pdf

I'll miss the handles too, but I have to tell you i'm pretty excited to see what these can do.
Of course, i'm assuming they'll be offering up a CD and a Tuner pretty quickly.
Hmmm maybe even a Blu-ray...

[artv4]

there was a pdf on that engadgetHD report.
Pretty nice pic of the RSX-1550

http://www.nicollpr.com/ROTEL/Files/15%20Series/Rotel_15_Series_Press_Release.pdf

I'll miss the handles too, but I have to tell you i'm pretty excited to see what these can do.
Of course, i'm assuming they'll be offering up a CD and a Tuner pretty quickly.
Hmmm maybe even a Blu-ray...

i have also heard rumors of a blu ray player!!!!

[Nolan B]

I think I link the curret design better....I know I HATE the light purple light around the power over the blue the currently use.

[ICEMAN70]

I think I link the curret design better....I know I HATE the light purple light around the power over the blue the currently use.

Same here. I wonder why they got rid of the handles on the sides? It is easier for me to just pull them out of my Audio rack with the handles.

I have to go and see them in person...

[Tamas]

Where is the room eq, auto set up - ie; audyssey.

[markov]

Brochure for 15 series:

http://www.nicollpr.com/ROTEL/Files/15%20Series/Rotel_15_Series_Brochure.pdf

[Mig17]

I was right
the Rotel 1069 has very short life

[Nolan B]

check out slide 13 of the PDF...in one photo the light looks blue and in the other its clearly light purple.

[DL86]

Excellent. Will be looking to get the 15 series rotel pre-pro. Nothing is going to replace my 10 series analog amps

[kmcheng]

Unhappy camper

:M

I just got the RSP 1069 two weeks ago, and now it is obsolete. Talk about bad timing. I wonder if I can return it when the new processor arrives. I know I would not be able to take advantage of the trade-up program at my dealer, because the new processor has the same MSRP as the OLD 1069!!!

I think the 1069 rocks, but still...

[esaleris]

I have a RSP-1069 and I proud of the old-style facing, as opposed to the futuristic shiny toaster :B. Honestly, the new 15s don't look that bad, but I'm pretty content with my RSP-1069. Plus it matches with my 10 series RMB.

[Ron Reda]

As pretty as these are, I've been enjoying my Integra DTC 9.8 pre/pro for close to a year now while Rotel has been twiddling their thumbs. Not to mention, it was only $1500 vs. the $2200 for the new Rotel. Too little, too late IMO.

[Guybrush]

I think I will get an RSP-1069 since my PlayStation3 can output both dtsMA and Dolby Digital TrueHD via HDMI in LPCM.
The only concern with the RSP-1069 are the problems with video through HDMI, but I could get an HDMI splitter and connect my PS3 directly to my Optoma HD80. Any comments or suggestions ?

PS.
The main reason I am not likely to buy the new 15 series is that it won't match the look of my RMB-1075.

[scanido]

I am interested in the Pre/Pro.

What do you guys think of the new pre/pro coupled to a Mcintosh or Classe amp?

[garak]

I am interested in the Pre/Pro.

What do you guys think of the new pre/pro coupled to a Mcintosh or Classe amp?

I've not heard that sort of combo. I'm sure many here will tell you that mixing and matching won't give you the best results, but you should see if your dealer can setup that combo for you to have a listen.

I have had similar thoughts, though. I've got the Rotel 1069/1077, and was considering the Classe SSP-800/CA-5200. However, I'll definitely give the 15 series a listen/consideration.

This is what I'd probably do:

Classe SSP-800, CA-5200 = $17,000
or
Rotel 1570, 1575, 1572 = $6,300

That difference is obviously not trivial, and I'd really want to hear how big the difference between the 2 setups would be before blowing an extra 10K.

What a sick obsession this hobby is.

[sikoniko]

I am interested in the Pre/Pro.

What do you guys think of the new pre/pro coupled to a Mcintosh or Classe amp?

I think the amp will retain the characteristics of the Processor. Is it worth it? Dunno.

I have a Rotel 1085 for my surround and rear speakers hooked up to my SSP-800 and it blends well with my CA-3200 powering the front speakers.

[kmcheng]

I think I will get an RSP-1069 since my PlayStation3 can output both dtsMA and Dolby Digital TrueHD via HDMI in LPCM.
The only concern with the RSP-1069 are the problems with video through HDMI, but I could get an HDMI splitter and connect my PS3 directly to my Optoma HD80. Any comments or suggestions ?

PS.
The main reason I am not likely to buy the new 15 series is that it won't match the look of my RMB-1075.

Connecting the PS3 with the processor via HDMI -- that was exactly why I saved up and upgraded to the now obsolete 1069 two weeks ago.

All I want is to listen to the lossless tracks on the Blu-ray discs, and I'll admit that for this purpose alone the 1069 is entirely capable. I have had no problem with the video signal when using the PS3, probably because it was 1080p out of the PS3 already and I set the HDMI bypass to "Yes" in the 1069. I'll bet that you do not need a splitter when using the PS3 as source.

In terms of functionality, the biggest improvement in the 15 series are (1) the ability to decode Dolby TrueHD etc. internally, and (2) HDMI 1.3. However, my PS3 cannot bitstream the Dolby TrueHD and handles the decoding to PCM anyway. I also have not seen a software title that is deep color and hence requires HDMI 1.3. Given that Blu-ray is only lately catching on, I doubt that movies studios will produce deep-color blu-ray discs any time soon.

Therefore, in terms of practical functionality, I don't think the 1069 is lacking anything that the new 15 series processor offers. However, I still feel being cannibalized by Rotel. I like the looks of the current Rotel line with the black handles better than the new look that looks like Krell knock-offs. I also like the old BMW better than the "Bangalized" look of the current 3-series sedans, but clearly a 2008 BMW 3-series sedan is worth more than a 2005 model in the used market. :M

[style]

I hope the new "1099" will have a XLR I/O.....

I find strange that the whole series 15 is announced with watts to 4 ohm!

(especially if I use B & W speakers)

Commercial Strategy the to see high performance?


Omar

[mjb]

I hope the new "1099" will have a XLR I/O.....

I find strange that the whole series 15 is announced with watts to 4 ohm!

(especially if I use B & W speakers)

Commercial Strategy the to see high performance?
Omar

XLR (balanced) brings nothing for short cable lengths, and is not a feature I would deem important for the home.

The 4 ohm reference is very possibly a typo.

[style]

XLR (balanced) brings nothing for short cable lengths, and is not a feature I would deem important for the home.

It is true in part.
(the views are very different at this point)
Cables courts does not lead Unlike sound but certainly with XLR with have +6 db and the dynamics change much...

A power-amp with XLR and a pre/pro without (including 1 meter RCA) sounds differently at same with balanced cables


I dont will buy a new pre/pro without XLR.

[btf1980]

things just got very interesting!! I had the marantz av8003 on order, but i'll cancel and wait and see how the new rotel pre-pro shakes out. They are about the same price give or take a few bucks. Let's hope rotel doesn't bungle it up like they did with the rsp-1069.

[Leef DaLucky]

I love the old aesthetics.
I loved the handles.
And the faceplate Heatsinks, on most occasions.
Gave it that batman/Beasty/dontscrewwithme Look.
This is all B.S. anyways, because it's not like you look at your system too often right?
Especially when the lights are off...
at least that's what I'm telling myself while preparing to buy the new breed.
:roll:

Not sure about these front end amp cooling fins too.
looks like a dusting nightmare.

Hey Rotel, any way i can get the guts to the RSP-1570 in a good-old-fashioned RSP-1069 chassis/case/faceplate?!

[gd]

I love the old aesthetics...
And the faceplate Heatsinks, on most occasions.

The "heatsinks" looked nice, but the fact that they weren't functional always kinda bugged me... no matter, the 15 is handsome enough – reminiscent of the stately 9 series, with a touch of Krell added... as long as they don't lose the black!

Anxious to hear about genuine issues... me, I'm looking for bulletproof video bypass in HDMI, and also want to know make of processor chips, generation of ICE modules, etc.

Didn't see any mention of HDCD... deal-breaker for me.

Bring 'em on... it's about time Rotel came back to life.

[gianni]

I'm sure some will say I need some new feature of the 15 series. But to me, the 10 series is way better looking. Never say never but I may pick up 1 or 2 more 10 series and when the 10 lacks options or features, I may look at other brands. The looks and the bang for the buck of the 10 series was awesome.

So far the looks of the 15's leave me real flat. And yes, I realize looks is not everything.

[lotones]

Any word on if the RSP-1570 still has the Burr-Brown dacs?

[Mikael]

After I have looked through the brochure I'll take back the butt ugly comment,but I am still not impressed.I kind off like the power amps with the cooling rips in the front and the 15 series are better looking in black than the 10 series.IMO

[Mikael]

After I have looked through the brochure I'll take back the butt ugly comment,but I am still not impressed.I kind off like the power amps with the cooling rips in the front and the 15 series are better looking in black than the 10 series.IMO

[fordster]

I'm with Gianni, the 10 series is much better looking. Not that I'm in the market for any kit at the moment but if I was I suspect Rotel would no longer be on the list. I'll reserve final judgement until I see them in the flesh though.

[Dmantis]

Connecting the PS3 with the processor via HDMI -- that was exactly why I saved up and upgraded to the now obsolete 1069 two weeks ago.

All I want is to listen to the lossless tracks on the Blu-ray discs, and I'll admit that for this purpose alone the 1069 is entirely capable. I have had no problem with the video signal when using the PS3, probably because it was 1080p out of the PS3 already and I set the HDMI bypass to "Yes" in the 1069. I'll bet that you do not need a splitter when using the PS3 as source.

In terms of functionality, the biggest improvement in the 15 series are (1) the ability to decode Dolby TrueHD etc. internally, and (2) HDMI 1.3. However, my PS3 cannot bitstream the Dolby TrueHD and handles the decoding to PCM anyway. I also have not seen a software title that is deep color and hence requires HDMI 1.3. Given that Blu-ray is only lately catching on, I doubt that movies studios will produce deep-color blu-ray discs any time soon.

Therefore, in terms of practical functionality, I don't think the 1069 is lacking anything that the new 15 series processor offers. However, I still feel being cannibalized by Rotel. I like the looks of the current Rotel line with the black handles better than the new look that looks like Krell knock-offs. I also like the old BMW better than the "Bangalized" look of the current 3-series sedans, but clearly a 2008 BMW 3-series sedan is worth more than a 2005 model in the used market. :M

There are so many Blu ray players on the market that can't internally decode but can stream them out. This is where built in makes the most sense. Hows to say next year DSS or cable don't go Dolby HD? Not to mention they could also need processing on the other side. Maybe Xbox360 goes Dobly HD but needs decoding.

In my opnion a processor should process everything and not have the source do it's job.

I'm looking for Ipod control. With multiroom and video transfer. Some kind of setup mic would also be nice even if you have to use a laptop and external software like Creston does with the AMS AIP.

I'm a long time B&W fan and I really like all years. The new Turbo 3 series is badass. I'm way into the new x as well.
Dan

[TommyV]

I think they look sweet. I mean I love the look of the 10 series but I am very excited about these new products,

[Ferres]

It's a matter of taste I guess, but I like the new look. They look more robust, less delicate.

Visually speaking, if you put a series 10 amp against a series 15 amp with the same exact features, you'd think the 15 would have more grunt.