About the new processors and receivers

[Alfonso]

This is my first post, i would like to say hello to all the people on this great forum.

I´m upgrading my home theater and plan to buy some Rotel components, the thing is i find Rotel equipment short of what other brands are offering about video switching, upscalling 480i to 1080p and so on.

I have been reading on the net about the new series of processors and receivers and would like to get some information about them in case is better to wait a couple of months for more features.

The first thing i´m getting is a 1075 amp, i already ordered one and will use my current H/K AVR as processor and wait for Rotel´s specs on the new line of equipment.

Thanks for your help :T

[renpar61]

This is my first post, i would like to say hello to all the people on this great forum.

I´m upgrading my home theater and plan to buy some Rotel components, the thing is i find Rotel equipment short of what other brands are offering about video switching, upscalling 480i to 1080p and so on.

I have been reading on the net about the new series of processors and receivers and would like to get some information about them in case is better to wait a couple of months for more features.

The first thing i´m getting is a 1075 amp, i already ordered one and will use my current H/K AVR as processor and wait for Rotel´s specs on the new line of equipment.

Thanks for your help :T

Welcome to the forum and the Rotel Owners Circle 8)

We are all waiting to have info on the new series, mostly the RSX-1058, which seems to be sort of a mistery right now...

My $0.02 :

As much as it can be speculation, the new receiver is supposed to ship as soon as Rotel "fixes" a software/firmware issue. It could be simple wrinkle-ironing, or it may very well be that Rotel realized their cost/feature ratio is out of whack. Supposedly the 1058 won't decode the new audio formats, it will offer audio through HDMI (as a proud owner of a RSX-1057 I think is about time...) and a built-in video scaler. Everything else appears to be the same as the 1057). Upconversion to HDMI has never been confirmed. Now, IMHO Rotel is missing the point: they have a very good product with the 1057, with the 1058 there is basically no upgrade on the audio side. The added video scaler doesn't sound so appealing. I believe consumers with this level of gear has mostly 1080i sources (satellite, cable, upconverting DVD, HD-DVD, Bluray). Do we really need to upconvert any 480 signal? Froma a VCR? Hard core videophiles who "NEED" a video processor badly, won't settle for a built-in scaler, they will buy the standalone last generation stuff.
I would be itching with the upgrade bug (although my 1057 is only a few months old) if the 1058 had something more consistent to offer: new audio processing, maybe increased power, something for digital music...

Sorry for the rant. I believe everyone here praises Rotel for the quality of their audio products, and yet the "new" device offers some questionably appealing video feature, and remains behind the competition on the audio side, with a product that will cost twice as much as the one it replaces.

[hifiguymi]

As much as it can be speculation, the new receiver is supposed to ship as soon as Rotel "fixes" a software/firmware issue. It could be simple wrinkle-ironing, or it may very well be that Rotel realized their cost/feature ratio is out of whack. Supposedly the 1058 won't decode the new audio formats, it will offer audio through HDMI (as a proud owner of a RSX-1057 I think is about time...) and a built-in video scaler. Everything else appears to be the same as the 1057). Upconversion to HDMI has never been confirmed. Now, IMHO Rotel is missing the point: they have a very good product with the 1057, with the 1058 there is basically no upgrade on the audio side. The added video scaler doesn't sound so appealing. I believe consumers with this level of gear has mostly 1080i sources (satellite, cable, upconverting DVD, HD-DVD, Bluray). Do we really need to upconvert any 480 signal? Froma a VCR? Hard core videophiles who "NEED" a video processor badly, won't settle for a built-in scaler, they will buy the standalone last generation stuff.
I would be itching with the upgrade bug (although my 1057 is only a few months old) if the 1058 had something more consistent to offer: new audio processing, maybe increased power, something for digital music...

Sorry for the rant. I believe everyone here praises Rotel for the quality of their audio products, and yet the "new" device offers some questionably appealing video feature, and remains behind the competition on the audio side, with a product that will cost twice as much as the one it replaces.

The RSX-1058 is different than the RSX-1057. They share the same chassis and amplifiers but that is about it.

No, the RSX-1058 will not decode DD+ or dtsHD, but there are currently no players that output it. They all decode those tracks (of which very few discs currently have) and output it as an uncompressed multi-channel PCM. Most discs have that as the audio track right now anyway.

The processor in the RSX-1058 is new. It is a more powerful one than what is in all of the current receivers and preamps. As to it's performance, I would hope it would be (and it should be) better, but we'll have to wait and see.

It will upconvert analog video to digital (HDMI). That is part of the scaler. You can send any signal into it, analog or digital, and go out 720P, 1080I, or 1080P.

One thing it adds that will only be a befefit for some is three additional zone outputs instead of one. For some customers that will be a huge addition and others not so much.

Lastly, it is not replacing anything. It's an addition to the line. The RSX-1057 and RSX-1067 are still current. There will be a replacement for the RSX-1067 later this year to the first of next year but nothing has been announced yet.

Eric

[renpar61]

Eric,

thank you for the clarification. It definitely sounds much better than I had described. Do you have any more detailed information about the processor? How exactly is more powerful?

[hifiguymi]

Eric,

thank you for the clarification. It definitely sounds much better than I had described. Do you have any more detailed information about the processor? How exactly is more powerful?

Today is my day off so I'll try to post it tomorrow when I'm back a work. I have the info there.

Also, I talked to B&W/Rotel today to verify the shipment of an order and asked about the RSX-1058. They are finally taking orders and will ship them in 10-14 days.

Eric

[Alfonso]

Thank you guys. I can´t wait to hear from hifiguy tomorrow.

[Alfonso]

Any news ?

[hifiguymi]

Sorry it took me a couple of days to post. The end of last week was very busy.

The RSX-1058 has a TI Aureus DSP engine and Burr Brown 24 bit/192kHz DAC's. I don't have the exact model of the DAC's but that is what it has.

Rotel has added a couple of features on it as well. The RSX-1058 has input attenuation for each source (I'm assuming analog only) and a PC setup and archive program. I don't have the details on that yet so film at 11:00.

Eric

[nash]

My dealer called me today as they are able to order now and should receive the units next week. I'll be picking mine up ASAP

[Alfonso]

Can we get the manuals somewhere online ? I would like to see what´s inside of the new processors and recievers plus all the bells and.....
Good luck with your purchase Nash let us know when you set up the equipment and please take some pictures of it.

Thanks again.

[hifiguymi]

Can we get the manuals somewhere online ? I would like to see what´s inside of the new processors and recievers plus all the bells and.....
Good luck with your purchase Nash let us know when you set up the equipment and please take some pictures of it.

Thanks again.

Very soon. Rotel has a big update coming to their web site - they are changing the look - and I would guess that is when the RSX-1058 will be on it.

Eric

[Alfonso]

Any news ?

Sorry but i just want to get the new processor....

Thank you guys ! :T

[hifiguymi]

Rotel is shipping the RSX-1058 in silver now. Black is 3-4 weeks out but silver is now.

Eric

[Nuthed]

Rotel is shipping the RSX-1058 in silver now. Black is 3-4 weeks out but silver is now.

Eric

My dealer says he has 2 on back order, he was told by Rotel to expect delivery towards the end of the month. He says he'll find out what it can and can't do with the lossless formats when he gets it in.

[hifiguymi]

My dealer says he has 2 on back order, he was told by Rotel to expect delivery towards the end of the month. He says he'll find out what it can and can't do with the lossless formats when he gets it in.

If he has silver on order he'll get them soon, if it's black then it will be next month. The silver ones have started shipping and are on the way to dealers (I'm a dealer and spoke to Rotel today) and they will have them soon.

As far as the lossless formats, the RSX-1058 does have audio support for the HDMI inputs but does not have decoding for DD TrueHD or dts HD Master Audio. That is a non issue for Blu-ray and HD-DVD however. All of the new audio formats (DD+, DD TrueHD, dtsHD, and dtsHD Master Audio) will be decoded in the players and sent out as multi-channel PCM. As long as the receiver and/or preamp can decode 96/24 PCM, which the RSX-1058 will do, that is all you need. Here is a great link that explains it all.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_FAQ/Joshua_Zyber/High-Def_FAQ:_Is_HDMI_1.3_Really_Necessary/853

Eric

[Kevin D]

If any one is near a Home Theater Store, they'll have your black ones. Seems they purchased almost the entire stock they had in black.

Kevin D.

[gd]

Everyone knows the black ones sound better.

[renpar61]

Everyone knows the black ones sound better.

That's great! you gave me another good reason to upgrade my silver 1057!!

[Alfonso]

Any news ?

[hifiguymi]

Any news ?

On what?

Eric

[Alfonso]

Did Rotel ship the receivers ?
If you have them can you take some pictures, please ?

Thanks again

[hifiguymi]

Yes Rotel is shipping the RSX-1058. I haven't received mine yet because I'm waiting on black. They will start shipping black in 2 weeks or so.

Eric