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  • MacUser
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 19

    Rotel product "spoiler" - what's next?

    As far as I know there will be (soon) some new products:

    - RSX-1058 (upgraded RSX-1057 with Scaler & HDMI, price est.: 2300 Euros)
    - RSX-1068 (upgraded RSX-1067, price est.: 3000 Euros)
    - RSP-1069 (upgraded RSP-1068, price est.: 2500 Euros)
    - RSP-1099 (upgraded RSP-1098, price est.: 4500 Euros)
    - RMB-1082 (smaller version of the 2 channel Class-D amp (RMB-1092), price est.: 1500 Euros)
    - RMB-1065 (5 channel version of the 7 channel Class-D (RMB-1077), price est. 2000 Euros)

    Anyone heard anything else? Let's make a list ...
  • Aussie Geoff
    Super Senior Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 1914

    #2
    Hi,

    Also (a little later than the others on the list) think of a replacement / higher end stereo pre-amp above the RC-1090 in quality...

    Oh and while the RCD-1072 is very good, in their labs is the successor but this is far from production ready so I'd be thinking well into 2007.


    Rotel have been very busy :T

    Geoff

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    • Pez
      Senior Member
      • May 2004
      • 472

      #3
      Something doesnt seem right about those prices. For example, the rsp-1069 would be almost double the price compared to the rsp-1068 in USD (using the current exchange rate), can that be right???

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      • Aussie Geoff
        Super Senior Member
        • Oct 2003
        • 1914

        #4
        Pez,

        They pay much higher in Europe (especially the UK) anyway. For example the RSP-1098 is about 3650 Euro... Still I agree some of the prices look a little steep.... Anyway the products are real and indended to be price competative in each country... So wait and see what is anounced...

        Geoff

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        • MacUser
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 19

          #5
          Well ... the prices in Europe - esp. here in Germany - are "equal" (in numbers) to the prices in the US (regardless of the much higher rated currency Euro ...)

          So, eg. the RSP-1098 is 3499,- (Euros), the RSP-1068 is 1699,- (Euros).

          And you're right - the new models will have a huge price increase - not only here in Euroland (as mentioned: the numbers are always almost equal) ...

          8O

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          • mjb
            Super Senior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 1483

            #6
            Originally posted by MacUser
            And you're right - the new models will have a huge price increase - not only here in Euroland (as mentioned: the numbers are always almost equal)
            Not to mention our upcoming VAT (MwSt) increase in Germany :cry:
            - Mike

            Main System:
            B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
            Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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            • AM4966
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 12

              #7
              Well I sure hope that the new equipment will have a few more bell's and whistle's in addition to the great sound. Since the increase in price needs to be justified.....

              AM

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              • Andrew M Ward
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 717

                #8
                Originally posted by AM4966
                Well I sure hope that the new equipment will have a few more bell's and whistle's in addition to the great sound. Since the increase in price needs to be justified.....

                AM
                Historically Rotel does not "feature load" their products... I would guess any added feature would be related to handling the video, other than that, I would not be expecting new feature sets...

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                • Pez
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2004
                  • 472

                  #9
                  That would be a major bummer if the 1069 is a lot more than than the 1068 was. I always considered the 1068 to be one of the rare "affordable" pre/pros (along with Outlaw and Sherwood Newcastle). If it goes up signifacntly in the US I may not be able to upgrade. A small price increase seems reasonable but above that are they trying to go after a different demographic?

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                  • Andrew M Ward
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 717

                    #10
                    I'm not sure I would take the pricing off this forum as
                    "final approved Rotel pricing"

                    8)

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                    • JDH
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 270

                      #11
                      I must admit if the RSP-1068's replacement increased by 50% without a substantial increase in build quality, sound quality and features, I'd probably end up using a mid level Yamaha/Denon AV reciever as an AV pre-amp with my 7ch power amp in conjunction with a 2ch pre-amp with HT bypass from another manuafacture. This would also allow me to sell off my tuner and zone 2 amp that I don't use very often.
                      Bits of HT & 2ch Stuff: Rotel, Pro-ject, Oppo, Bel Canto, Elektra Audio, Benchmark, Panasonic, DSPeaker, Epson, Slim Devices, Belkin, Philips Pronto, Harmony, URC, Sennheisser, AKG, HTPC under development, KEF, Whatmough, Definitive Technology & Pardigm Signiture speakers

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                      • mike c
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 307

                        #12
                        any news on the RB1082 as per its wattage?

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                        • Ferry
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2003
                          • 19

                          #13
                          Keep in mind that all prices in Europe are including sales tax/VAT (16-20%).

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                          • MacUser
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 19

                            #14
                            The RB-1082 will have 2 x 200W ... following the RB-1080.

                            Likely.

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                            • rattmann316
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 24

                              #15
                              pricing will always be subject to change and after they release the new products, market reaction could further dictate final price.
                              RB-1070
                              RC-1070
                              RCD-1072
                              B&W-DM602 s3

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                              • resperc
                                Member
                                • May 2004
                                • 54

                                #16
                                If they do another multi-channel amp I hope it is higher wattage than the RMB-1077 (maybe 5x200 or 250 into 8 ohms).

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                                • scanido
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Apr 2006
                                  • 548

                                  #17
                                  when are these new products expected to come out?

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                                  • Kevin D
                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 4601

                                    #18
                                    You can take any new product news with a grain of salt. Rotel has been known to develop products that never get released. I would expect the new processors to be released 2nd or 3rd quarter 2007, no word on the amps.

                                    Kevin D.

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                                    • voxy
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jan 2005
                                      • 113

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MacUser
                                      The RB-1082 will have 2 x 200W ... following the RB-1080.

                                      Likely.
                                      I want a "RMB1085" aka 250w @ 8ohms x 5 !!!
                                      Anyone knows if there is one on the horizon cos I will be buying 250 watters ICEpowered monoblocks soon. I will delay the purchase if Rotel is launching one.

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                                      • gianni
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 524

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by voxy
                                        I want a "RMB1085" aka 250w @ 8ohms x 5 !!!
                                        Anyone knows if there is one on the horizon cos I will be buying 250 watters ICEpowered monoblocks soon. I will delay the purchase if Rotel is launching one.
                                        Try emailing or calling Rotel, maybe they can tell you a little more about when these products might show up.

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                                        • Blindamood
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 899

                                          #21
                                          Tried emailing Rotel the other day about upcoming processors. No response!
                                          Brad

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                                          • gianni
                                            Senior Member
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 524

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Blindamood
                                            Tried emailing Rotel the other day about upcoming processors. No response!
                                            In the past, I've actually had better luck over the phone. It may be that they are aware that an email can be widely circulated - not good for something which is not ready for primetime yet. I'd try calling and see if you can talk to Shane or a tech guy. One more thing, expain your possible pending purchase, your willingness to wait and see for new Rotel stuff and ask real nice.

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                                            • jim777
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Mar 2005
                                              • 831

                                              #23
                                              What?? A 1057 upgrade?

                                              The RSX-1057 is still marked as "new" on Rotels website!

                                              A/V changes too fast for me

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                                              • gianni
                                                Senior Member
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 524

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jim777
                                                What?? A 1057 upgrade?

                                                The RSX-1057 is still marked as "new" on Rotels website!

                                                A/V changes too fast for me
                                                Yup. Thats why I like to go for good functionality, quality and performance. This way don't have to chase the latest tweaks or gizmos each season. Buy something good and you can sit out a couple of product cycles even though the companies you may be buying from are in a way pressured by the market to offer these incremental upgrades.

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                                                • shadow 8
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 153

                                                  #25
                                                  Other brands like Denon and Yamaha change models every year, so I see nothing wrong with a replacement for the 1057. Besides, as has been documented on this web site, the 1057 is identical to the older 1056 with only the addition of HDMI inputs and output, which do no audio nor video upconversion. Thus, the 1057 is in much need of a replacement IMO.

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                                                  • Kevin D
                                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 4601

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jim777
                                                    What?? A 1057 upgrade?

                                                    The RSX-1057 is still marked as "new" on Rotels website!

                                                    A/V changes too fast for me
                                                    One thing I do know, the 1058 will be a new model along side the 1057. It's not going to replace it. Unless of course the 1058 doesn't come out for another 8 months; then we'll see.

                                                    Kevin D.

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                                                    • gianni
                                                      Senior Member
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 524

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by shadow 8
                                                      Thus, the 1057 is in much need of a replacement IMO.
                                                      Shadow,

                                                      Keep in mind, there are many still using the rsx-1056 and even older 1055 who are still perfectly happy with them as there have been no significant upgrades in sound quality.

                                                      Not only have many of us not 'bought in' to disappointing HDMI so far, we also don't want or need video switching through our audio gear. So while a new model (1058 ) may appeal to some who think they need a certain feature, the 1057 is by no means outdated unless you talk to folks in marketing with companies such as Denon, Yamaha, etc.

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                                                      • rick c
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 430

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by gianni
                                                        Shadow,

                                                        Keep in mind, there are many still using the rsx-1056 and even older 1055 who are still perfectly happy with them as there have been no significant upgrades in sound quality.

                                                        Not only have many of us not 'bought in' to disappointing HDMI so far, we also don't want or need video switching through our audio gear. So while a new model (1058 ) may appeal to some who think they need a certain feature, the 1057 is by no means outdated unless you talk to folks in marketing with companies such as Denon, Yamaha, etc.
                                                        happy rsx1056 hear.Only way i MAY upgrade to another would be HDMI 1.3.

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                                                        • adamd123
                                                          Junior Member
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 8

                                                          #29
                                                          I hope that the RSP-1099 will support audio over HDMI! Does any one know if Rotel will be at CES in Jan?

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                                                          • Kevin D
                                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 4601

                                                            #30
                                                            If it's like last year they won't be at the show, but will have a private hotel room. I'll know more shortly.

                                                            Kevin D.

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                                                            • vmax88
                                                              Junior Member
                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                              • 8

                                                              #31
                                                              Was at the shop of the local Rotel agent for my country (Singapore) and was told by the salesman that they would be soon receiving shipment of a new Rotel video processor incorporating the Gennum VXP processor.

                                                              Any news of this in other countries?

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