Demo RSX-1065 for 1920$ US ?

[Jonas78]

I got an offer here in Canada to buy a demo RSX-1065 for 1920 US$
Is that a good price? I get the full 5 year warranty.

[thyname]

Have you checked audiogon and ebay first? This is for USA however, you can check the equivalent of audiogon in Canada, called cannuckaudio or something similar..

[Jonas78]

Have you checked audiogon and ebay first? This is for USA however, you can check the equivalent of audiogon in Canada, called cannuckaudio or something similar..

Yes, I checked the www.canuckaudiomart.com website and I could not find 1065 or 1067.
Found the 1067 though on audiogon but it sounded like a scam $1650.00 and alot of capital letters and !!!! marks.

[thyname]

I have the impression that you can get a better discount for a store demo unit, considering that you can get some 10% off msrp of Rotel brand new gear. Others correct me if I am wrong.

[gd]

You are wise to be wary of that 1067 seller on a-gon (American Theatre Systems)... I have no experience myself, but there has been considerable controversy, on a few levels, surrounding that seller.

You might check The Pawn Shop section of this forum... or if you have a Rotel dealer nearby, inquire for a demo or used receiver.

1065's and 1067's don't show up often on the used market... but 1056's appear infrequently... they're really not so far removed from the 1067, and more up-to-date than the 1065.

[Jonas78]

I have the impression that you can get a better discount for a store demo unit, considering that you can get some 10% off msrp of Rotel brand new gear. Others correct me if I am wrong.

Yeah, I get the feeling that it might not be as good of a bargin as the dealer says. But on the other hand, I have no idea what the retail price was before the 1067 came out.

You might check The Pawn Shop section of this forum... or if you have a Rotel dealer nearby, inquire for a demo or used receiver.

1065's and 1067's don't show up often on the used market... but 1056's appear infrequently... they're really not so far removed from the 1067, and more up-to-date than the 1065.

Just checked the pawn shop area and it's currently empty when it comes to 1065 and 67. I got the price (1920$ US) from a Rotel dealer, and I tried to get in touch with some other ones but they dont have the old 1065.
Regarding the 1056: I was thinking of getting one of those but the dealer said for my speakers I was better of with the 1065. (Audience 52, Audience 122C and Audience 42 as surround)
Do you think the 1056 would be sufficient to run that 4 ohm system?

[gianni]

What speakers are you using? I've been powering my 4 ohm M&K's for almost 2 years now with my RSX-1055 with no problems. Of cousre the fact that I'm not driving full range speakers helps too.

For the money you will put into a 1067 you could also do a 1056 with some outboard amps and arguably out perform the 1065/1067 as well as having much more flexibility in the future.

[Jonas78]

What speakers are you using? I've been powering my 4 ohm M&K's for almost 2 years now with my RSX-1055 with no problems. Of cousre the fact that I'm not driving full range speakers helps too.

For the money you will put into a 1067 you could also do a 1056 with some outboard amps and arguably out perform the 1065/1067 as well as having much more flexibility in the future.

Front:Dynaudio Audience 52
Surround:Dynaudio Audience 42
Center: Dynaudio Audience 122C
(Click links for speaker specs)

What outboard amps/configuration would you then recommend?

BTW: $3000 US is pretty much the "attic" of my price range.

[tboooe]

Hi, just curious about the controversy with American Theatre Systems? I read the feedback and the majority was positive. I am not affiliated or anything but if I was to ever buy anything from them it would be good to know.

[gianni]

Front:Dynaudio Audience 52
Surround:Dynaudio Audience 42
Center: Dynaudio Audience 122C
(Click links for speaker specs)

What outboard amps/configuration would you then recommend?

BTW: $3000 US is pretty much the "attic" of my price range.

The good news is you have choices. Going with Rotel you could run the 1075 for 5.1 and redirect 2 of the 1056's amps if you want 7.1.

Or, you could run a 1075 and a RB-1050 for the rears.

Also, consider a 1075 and 1070 with the 1056.

Lastly, if you do not mind used you could easily find a 1075 and 1080 for the mains combo to go compliment the 1056. This would be my first choice however the 1075/1070 would be right there too.

If 7.1 is not in your near future plans, I would then start out with a 1075 and go from there. This combo will give you better amplification than you would get from the 1065/1067 at a similar price. The 1075 as well as the 1070 have a track record of being pretty trouble free.

With a little bargaining, the 1095 may also be a consideration. I'll bet now you are thoroughly confused.

[Kevin D]

If you haven't figured it out yet, this isn't a good deal at all. Are you sure it wasn't a demo 1067? Retail on the 1065 was $1999. So you are getting a $79 discount. Typical first time discounts are about 5% so that would be $1900. On a demo piece it should be easy to get 10%, or $1800. Since it's been on demo for a good while, I don't see why 15% off would be out of the question..

Sounds to me like the dealer is trying to move the piece at close to retail by taking advantage of the newer models price increase.

Kevin D.

[gd]

Hi, just curious about the controversy with American Theatre Systems? I read the feedback and the majority was positive. I am not affiliated or anything but if I was to ever buy anything from them it would be good to know.

Again, I've no direct experience with them, but have read some disturbing posts on them on the AVS forum, where you can do a search of ATS or Audiogon.

If what I read is accurate, it seems that the feedback software on Agon can be hacked and manipulated... nobody at Agon is forthcoming about it... by and large, I think Audiogon is fine (I've had two good transactions there) if you do your homework and stick to individual sellers rather than advertising resellers.

But no guarantees... guarantees only come with authorized retailers and higher prices.

[Jonas78]

The good news is you have choices. Going with Rotel you could run the 1075 for 5.1 and redirect 2 of the 1056's amps if you want 7.1.

Or, you could run a 1075 and a RB-1050 for the rears.

Also, consider a 1075 and 1070 with the 1056.

Lastly, if you do not mind used you could easily find a 1075 and 1080 for the mains combo to go compliment the 1056. This would be my first choice however the 1075/1070 would be right there too.

If 7.1 is not in your near future plans, I would then start out with a 1075 and go from there. This combo will give you better amplification than you would get from the 1065/1067 at a similar price. The 1075 as well as the 1070 have a track record of being pretty trouble free.

With a little bargaining, the 1095 may also be a consideration. I'll bet now you are thoroughly confused.

Thanks for all those ideas , two question though: Would I still have all the configuration options as I would with a 1067 ie. configure each speaker volume seperate etc? (Would I loose any functions?) As you can tell I have no experience whatsoever when it comes to outboard amps.
Second question: What would be the great advantage of getting the RSP-1068 over the RSX-1056?

If you haven't figured it out yet, this isn't a good deal at all. Are you sure it wasn't a demo 1067? Retail on the 1065 was $1999. So you are getting a $79 discount. Typical first time discounts are about 5% so that would be $1900. On a demo piece it should be easy to get 10%, or $1800. Since it's been on demo for a good while, I don't see why 15% off would be out of the question..

Sounds to me like the dealer is trying to move the piece at close to retail by taking advantage of the newer models price increase.

Kevin D.

I agree to ceartin point. I'm not saying you are wrong in any way but consider this:
1. It's an Canadian dealer (I'm living in Canada) and I would suspect that the prices might be slightly higher here. (For all I know it might be cheaper aswell, just guessing)
2. Lets calculate on the canadian dollar and taxes:
Price I got without taxes: 2000 CAD
Price with tax: 2000 x 1.15 = 2300 CAD
3. Some retail prices in CAD for reference:
* RSX-1067 - 3299 CAD
* RSX-1056 - 2000 CAD
(On these prices add 15% in tax for the end consumer ) :cry:

You might still be right that this is not a good deal at all, but I just wanted to supply all the information that I have.

And again, thanks for all your input and suggestions. Keep them coming and hopefully I might become a happy Rotel owner soon :T

[thyname]

MSRP for RSX-1067 in USA is USD2300. Considering 10% discount you can get it brand new for less than USD2100, which makes your RSX-1065 deal of almost USD2000 not a very good deal for a demo unit, AND for an older version.

Besides, if you are seriously thinking to spend USD2000+, I would strongly suggest RSP-1068/RMB-1075 combo with msrp USD2700 (or around 2400 if you consider discount). Otherwise RSX-1056 is a great receiver for the price (msrp usd1300)

[Jonas78]

MSRP for RSX-1067 in USA is USD2300. Considering 10% discount you can get it brand new for less than USD2100, which makes your RSX-1065 deal of almost USD2000 not a very good deal for a demo unit, AND for an older version.

Besides, if you are seriously thinking to spend USD2000+, I would strongly suggest RSP-1068/RMB-1075 combo with msrp USD2700 (or around 2400 if you consider discount). Otherwise RSX-1056 is a great receiver for the price (msrp usd1300)

Thanks! I think I made up my mind... will try and find a used RSP-1068/RMB-1075 combo (or seperate) So if anyone is selling Im buying