Will Rotel 1095/1098 drive B&W N803 and N804?? URGENT

**jimmyp58** · 26 June 2005, 08:20 Sunday

I just sent you a PM....

**Leef DaLucky** · 26 June 2005, 08:28 Sunday

whoa chill..
well, 1065 = 100w/channel
1098/1095 = 200w/channel

I'd say relax. You're looking good with the upgrade. Lots of people have and love that particular combination. It's no secret the N series take a little more power to drive properly than the 700 series. I'm assuming you would have expected that when you bought the new speakers.
No worries. If the rotel system doesn't float your boat, i'd talk to Jim as well and get some contigency plans going.

cheers, and good luck.
Mikey

P.S. now can someone wipe out his other 2 threads?

**chinets** · 26 June 2005, 08:48 Sunday

I thank you Leef DaLucky for your comforting comments. So you really believe I'll be set? For the same price combo they offered me the Denon AVC-A1xv instead of the Rotel 1095/1098..What is your opinion. ?What I really need is to be able to get the high ends and low ends to give me dynamic sound at low volumes instead of blasting my speakers with Rotel 1065 to get the speakers singing. Will the 1095/1098 get the N803/N804 singing at low volumes like I am suggesting or not? I hate high volume just to hear the speakers properly. Thanks for all your kind help and attention. I appreciate all your comments. How do I get in touch with Jim as you stated? sorry for all the trouble. God bless you!!!

**jimmyp58** · 26 June 2005, 08:55 Sunday

Chinets:

He is referring to me....check your PM.

Jim

**chinets** · 26 June 2005, 09:05 Sunday

Sorry I'm New here...what is PM and where do I check it?? Sorry sounds silly but I have no clue!! Thanks again for your troubles.

**jimmyp58** · 26 June 2005, 09:11 Sunday

Toward the top right-hand corner there is a box that says "Welcome, chinets"

underneath it is a line that says "Private Messages" which is underlined and a link to the PM section.

**chinets** · 26 June 2005, 09:13 Sunday

God Bless you and Thanks a million. Sorry for the inconvenience I have caused you. Have a wonderful day!!!

**Taito** · 26 June 2005, 09:28 Sunday

Woah.... speed is BAD ok

! Congrats on the new system. Enjoy!

**chinets** · 26 June 2005, 09:42 Sunday

Taito.. what speed is bad. You mean that I am rushing into things?? Well I have ordered the 1095/1098 and will have to pay for it unless i decide on some other Amp. combo soon. The dealer will take my Rotel 1065 at full value because it is only 2 weeks old and all the orders are from the U.K. and they will make me pay for the Rotel 1095?1098 if i don't make up my mind very soon. Thaks for the congrats..and thanks for your kind words!!!!

**Taito** · 26 June 2005, 09:55 Sunday

Chinets, my speakers are worth a little under half what 803s are, so I really can't tell you whether or not a 1098/1095 combo will drive them to your satisfaction. What I can tell you is that a have an RB-1080 (200WPC more or less a stereo 1095) powering a pair of JM Lab Cobalt 826S's, and I think that it is an excellent amplifier.

As to the speed is bad comment, I mean that you sound like you need to take a deep breath or two. I know it is a very big purchase, but you should be enjoying it. Agonising over expensive decisions isn't much fun. Have you listened to the 803's when powered by a 1095? Certainly it will do a better job than a 1065. Have you tried asking in club B&W? lots of B&W owners use Rotel.

Good luck, Ben

**chinets** · 26 June 2005, 10:11 Sunday

Ben, Thanks for your valuable comments. However, no I have not tried a 1095 Amp. Unfortunately, where I am, the dealer would not let anyone try any amplifier so that is why I am rushing to make a quick decision because they will be billing me very soon. I don't mind to spend a couple of K's more if I will be assured that the Amp. will let me hear all the Highs and lows of the B & W N803 ans N804 at low volumes that my family could enjoy. I have posted on the B & W forum but nobody is relaxed with Rotel with the B&W N800 series ,what is the problem.?? They all site Krell, Bryston, Denon, Parasound , Classe and others I have never heard of. Am I going in the wrong direction ,because I really thought B&W speakers matched Rotel well. The price is not the issue, the problem is that the dealer will take my two week old Rotel 1065 for full value and give me the Rotel 1095/1098 combo which I ordered and pay the difference. However, if I can pick an Amp. today form the dealer he will give me the Processor and exchange the 1065 with any other model in 5.1 channel of course. Thanks for all your kind help and I appreciate all your comments with respect..chinets

**Adz** · 26 June 2005, 10:25 Sunday

Do you have to buy from your dealer and thus stuck with only what he carries? You mention Krell which is generally a few thousand more (or several thousand more) than the Rotel at equal wattage. You might want to consider Earthquake's Cinenova 5 channel amp. Its rated at 300 watts per channel, mine tested at 351 per channel and it gets stellar reviews. It'll certainly take those B&W's to the Next Level (no pun intended, Jimmy). Further, it doesn't come with the Rotel quality control problems so many others have encountered. We all know what its like to have to make a quick decision, and don't want to make the wrong one.

**lvhung** · 26 June 2005, 19:39 Sunday

Don't buy audio gears in urgent

gd · 26 June 2005, 20:38 Sunday

Mods -- please close down or consolidate the other 'N803 / URGENT' threads.

chinet -- it's regrettable that your situation is 'urgent'... there's a real potential to make an ill-advised choice for considerable money if you're pressed for time like this.

Please know that nobody here can make such a precise prediction of sound characteristics of equipment, much less as a quick response... I'm particularly concerned about your specific concern of hearing 'wide dynamics' at low levels on your particular speakers... while a more powerful 1095 amp should theoretically help in this regard, there is also a very real possibility that the same Rotel + B&W sound characteristics will come through on the upgrade... the likelihood is that you're still familiar with the sound of your older gear, and not yet used to the R+BW 'sound'... maybe it will turn out OK -- I hope so, since it seems that you're kind of trapped with your retailer.

It's nearly impossible to make a snap prediction without knowing the kind of room your gear is in, or your personal preferences... it's different for everybody, and our descriptions for the same thing can often be contradictory.

If there's any way to stall them, I'd recommend that you do so, and find ways to audition equipment -- especially speakers! -- before you commit to buying.

I hope you get lucky with your purchase and will soon be able to relax and enjoy.

**pembroke** · 26 June 2005, 21:04 Sunday

Chinets - I have the 803's, HTM-1 and a pair of CDM9's for the rear channels.
The amp driving the 803's is a Bryston 4BSST, the center and rear are powered by the 1095. To free up space I tried eliminating the Bryston and using only the Rotel, it has enough power but does not have the control and musical sound as the Bryston. The 1095 has about 90% of the quality and is great value for money, but as a 50:50 music:HT listener the Bryston is better. For only HT use I would stick with the 1095, but as music is critical I will be getting rid of the Rotel.
My dealer has also recommended the Classe, he's normally right!

Bottom line is that Nautilus speakers deserve a higher quality amp than Rotel if you can afford it. If not the 1095 drives them fine but cannot bring out their finer qualities.
Trust this helps

**riwi** · 27 June 2005, 14:21 Monday

Hi Chinets,

I also have the N803 (with HTM1 and 9NT rears like previous poster). I was using the 1095 for all speakers but went to biamping the N803 with the 1095 and powering the rears with my older Rotel RB991. This has been quite an improvement in both bass and control.
Recently I heard an older Classe Seventy stereo poweramp on my N803. Stereowise this made an improvement over bi-amping with the 1095. A more friendly, smoother stereo image was present although the bi-amped 1095 gave more punch and power, especially with movies the 1095 beats the Classe.

If I upgrade I will want the same amp for all speakers. I would consider a 5 channel Classe CAV180 or the likes. Also Theta dreadnaught2 comes to mind but not within my budget.

Good luck with your decision.

Will Rotel 1095/1098 drive B&W N803 and N804?? URGENT

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