I caved and got a 1068--help with SQ

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  • ds22030
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 109

    #1

    I caved and got a 1068--help with SQ

    Well, I was hoping to hold out longer but I couldnt resist when a local acquaintence offered the 1068 to me to replace my HK230 serving as pre/pro. Unit is absolute mint. I hooked it up the past weekend and have an issue with the sound quality.

    The good: Upon substituting the 1068, the clarity went up a bit, detail went up a bit and its hard to explain but the background noise is reduced so that the notes seem to stand out more. Also, I like all the flexibility and options on this thing. Those were the positives...that and the good looks.

    The bad: However, to put it bluntly, the unit is extremely bright sounding on my gear which is:Polk LSi15, Rotel 1080 and Music Hall MMF-25 CD player. The brightness was also noted with a Yamaha 2300 universal as well although to a lesser degree, and also using a digital feed to the 1068. None of these components are known to be bright sounding. In fact, speakers are described as laidback, 1080 as neutral/warm and CD as airy...

    With my HK serving as pre/pro, the sound was warm, full and "organic", but also airy and detailed, granted may be a little less than the 1068. In contrast, the 1068 sounds synthetic and bright. I was listening for about 1 hr and my ears started to hurt....listening fatique. About 20 minutes later, out of the blue, my wife says "my ears hurt. Its the high notes...they are hurting my ears." I was not imagining the brightness as I did not mention anything to her except that the 1068 sounds different. I replaced the interconnects and speaker cables with copper ones (I had silver coated between the pre and the amp and speaker wires were silver coated). This helped a bit, but not to the extent desired. The sound is not "integrated" as much as I would like and its still too bright.

    Does anyone have any other ideas as to what is going on and what I can do?

    I did turn down the HF settings for all speakers and that has helped as well but has not addressed the lack of full and organic sound.

    I really want to keep this 1068 but I am not enjoying the results. Thanks for any insights that you can share with me.
  • soundhound
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 816

    #2
    Have you gone in and set it up to you're speaks and room? Set the size's, delays? Are the contour controls set to flat (0)? Are you using bypass as the mode? My denon dvd brightens up a tad while listening to 2 channel music if I use the digital out as aposed to the analog. There are numerous things that could cause this, I would recomend starting from the top, browse the owners manual, get it dialed in to you're enviroment, and take it from there. These things are machines, people assume they can just wire em up, plug em in, and wha-la, and if you read various posts you will see that this is not allways the case.

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    • NewBuyer
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 122

      #3
      Hi ds22030,

      From what I've heard and read here, some owners of the 1098 have claimed that the 1098 is quite a major sonic upgrade from the 1068, particularly better with respect to the things that you are describing about your 1068. Is the 1098 completely outside of your budget? If not, you might really want to consider upgrading to the 1098. A less expensive but promising alternative might be the new Outlaw Audio 990...or if budget is not an issue at all, perhaps have a look at the Anthem D1....

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      • ds22030
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2004
        • 109

        #4
        Soundhound, yea I went through all the menus and set things up...I only have 2 floor stander speakers now so it wasnt that hard......I have been playing with different cables the last 3 hours....they make a notable difference and I have found a combo out of hte cables I have to minimize the brightness...but its not there yet....

        NewBuyer, I did not know that...not that it matters as the 1098 is wayyyyy over budget for me....thanks for the suggestion tho....I was considering the Outlaw but you know, IMHO, the thing is just ugly. I would rather have a Sherwood....

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        • Azeke
          Super Senior Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 2123

          #5
          SPL meter for test tones?

          Regards,

          Azeke

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          • Mark_C.
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2003
            • 386

            #6
            Sometimes with new gear, it just takes time to get used to it compared to what you had. You're used to a certain sound. Give it a week or so. See if it's still getting on your nerves then. Don't rush to judgment.

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            • csuzor
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2004
              • 413

              #7
              I agree, you are probably hearing more neutral sound now than you were getting with the HK, which was probably too warm. It will take some time to get used to this extra clarity. Reduce the HF by a few dB, but gradually you should find yourself resetting the HF gain to 0.
              Many people find vinyl warm and friendly, but in fact most setups are just dulling the sound (old cartridges, old vinyl disks, low-qual phone amp, etc).
              Of course, if the sound is not right for you, after a few weeks, there are a lot of buyers looking for 1068 at a good price.

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              • Stevebez
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2003
                • 458

                #8
                Do you have the EQ on or off ??? I have mine "on" most of the time unless I really want a detailed rendition of whatever I am listening too. When "off" the 1068 sometimes gets a bit bright for me ... especially when listening for long periods.

                Rgds Steve.

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                • ds22030
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 109

                  #9
                  Thanks for the suggestions. I dont think SPL is applicable here....at least I dont see how it can be. It may be true that I am used to the warm HK sound. Yesterday, I ended up yanking some interconnects from my third system and running it between the amp and the preamp which is different than the copper ones I have been trying which has helped some more. I will abide by the advice here and give it about a week, if not more to see if things change.
                  Stevebez, I have the EQ off. Not exactly sure what it does but I thought EQ was for HT...I will give that a shot.

                  Does anyone know what system Lex has? Does he own rotels? May have to talk to him about some wires....

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