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  • i_amadeo
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 110

    #1

    hi...big problems 1095

    hi all

    i truly wish we could have met under better sounds i own a rmb 1095 and sometimes when i am in the middle of watching a movie the monster gives a loud click and then the front right , surround right led lights shine and the sound is no more only when i turn it off and on again does it work

    sometimes nothing happens for a hole show and everything is ok

    i spent alot on it ...and i am realy pissed i want to break it with my speakers
    i brought it to hear it purr but instead it coughs a hair ball..

    what is up is it natural

    another thing for any 1095 owners do you turn the beast off or do you leave it on (and when i say do you turn it off i mean from the front button that sais power)

    any way thanks
    Last edited by i_amadeo; 04 May 2005, 17:26 Wednesday. Reason: spelling
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  • Radec
    Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 86

    #2
    Are you sure you don't have any wires touching each other that shouldn't be? I'd make sure it is the Amp's problem, not something else like the wire or a speaker. I'd recommend switching the right and left channels (both front and rear). See if the problem stays on the right side. It is possible there is a short either in the wire or the speakers causing the amp to poop out.

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    • Dallasdave
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 28

      #3
      Always leave my 1095 on, it has over heated twice since I've had it (one year) but I was pushing it really hard each time over several hours, reset and resumed perfect operations, let cool only 10 to 15 min. I bet if I added a fan none of this would have happened. Sometime loud is the only way to go!

      No other problems to report, I also pulg directly to a outlet and haven't had any problems with noise. I love this amp, it powers all my B&W speakers in surround mode.
      Last edited by Dallasdave; 05 May 2005, 09:02 Thursday.

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      • PewterTA
        Super Senior Member
        • Nov 2004
        • 2900

        #4
        Are you really pushing the 1095? Turning it up really loud?

        Also what speakers are you driving with the amp? I've cranked mine up and it's gotten really hot but never to the point where it shut off.

        I would agree check all the connections to see if anything is touching or grounding out to cause it. If it is getting really hot (to the point where you can't touch the 1095) then you might need to move the amp or invest in some type of cooling system (put fans on top of it like I did).
        Digital Audio makes me Happy.
        -Dan

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        • martino
          Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 92

          #5
          stay calm

          and read the manual..re-wire your kit...don't be lazy...somthing is amiss. I have mine 1095 plugged into a line contitioner which i power off when not in use.

          Good luck
          take time to troubleshoot!

          Martin

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          • csuzor
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2004
            • 413

            #6
            I am going to guess that you are having power glitches (spikes or drop-outs).

            Either get a power surge/spike filter, or even better, get a UPS. A good UPS, designed for personal computers, such as from the company APC, will ensure that the power is always at the right level, no spikes or drop-outs. It will protect all of your hifi, may even increase sound quality. And it's so much cheaper than even just the 1095 alone.

            Let us know what you find out.

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            • Dallasdave
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 28

              #7
              PewterTA

              Yes, I would say I was pushing it hard over several hours more like all day, the amp placement in my cabinet is not the best for the amp and I know this. But when it did overheat it was in the summer in Texas which is also a factor many of you don't have deal with. 703's B&W speakers and the wire setup is correct. If it happens again I will add fans, but until it does this again I see no need to invest in fans.

              All my other equipment is connected to a surge protecter Monster strip, and I have a surge and spike protection filter at the breaker box installed as well. I don't believe in those expensive power conditioners, I even demo one from my dealer and couldn't tell that there was any improvement it sound.
              Last edited by Dallasdave; 05 May 2005, 18:26 Thursday.

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              • rhoffman000
                Member
                • Sep 2004
                • 36

                #8
                Yeah, I've only sent my 1095 into protect mode once. I was utilizing 4 channels for loud party music and after about 4-5 hours it went into protect. Given a packed living room, I guess it probably wasn't the coolest inside (although the amp sits on the top of my audio rack fully exposed on all sides). I opened the window right by the amp and just shut it off and turned it right back on. The thing lasted for the rest of the party with no problem.

                It sounds like your wires are crossed somewhere.....

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                • i_amadeo
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 110

                  #9
                  i am screwed ......i checked all the wiring and every thing is fine i think i am going to commit murder ...(this was out of a box and the sales man swore that it was in perfect condition ) it may be is i dont now but i checked all the wiring and everything looks ok

                  sometimes nothing hapens and sometimes click ....no sound
                  come into the light

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                  • PewterTA
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2900

                    #10
                    Is it after you've been playing/using it for a long time, or does it happen sometimes with in the first few minutes of use?

                    Also, does it happen with just 5.1 channel mode (all speakers being driven -- hence all channels in use) or does it also happen in 2ch mode (disconnect all the other cables except left and right).

                    It's going to be a guessing game until you can narrow down a little more as to when it happens and what all is connected.
                    Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                    -Dan

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                    • i_amadeo
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 110

                      #11
                      it has no specific time .....some times i use it for hours running hard with nothing wrong .... some times after half an hour some times its continues meaning when it clicks i have to close it and open it and after a few minutes it clicks again but then again as i said the next day i use it indefinatly with everything ok ...

                      and i dont think its any thing to do with dts or digital because sometimes i put a music cd ...to be specific gwen stefani Love angel music baby and click (and its mostly the FR and SR that lights up with no sound on that side )

                      i dont know .... i think i have to call the dealer but with my luck when my dealer comes to my house i bet nothing will happen and he will give me that look that i am one of those customers that am alwayse complaining ...

                      and just when he leaves CLICK

                      as i said i am screwed

                      but thanks for your help any way
                      come into the light

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                      • PewterTA
                        Super Senior Member
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 2900

                        #12
                        Hey, you can show him this thread and be like, see, it's happening, I've documented it happening before.

                        The only other thing that comes to mind real quickly is that you speakers are dropping below 2 Ohms and is causing the amp to go into protection mode...
                        Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                        -Dan

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                        • i_amadeo
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2005
                          • 110

                          #13
                          i just hope ther is no malfunction with the power amp thats all

                          the whole world can be on fire but i want my rotel to be ok...

                          is that to much to ask...sniff
                          come into the light

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                          • rhoffman000
                            Member
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 36

                            #14
                            Have you tried leaving only the front L & R channels active and removing the cables from the center and surrounds? Do this and see if it happens again. That could start the process of identifying the problem.

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                            • Desotti
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 10

                              #15
                              Did you remember to check connections at your speakers also? Some speakers have very close binding posts and only one tiny wire of a speaker cable touching the other pole may cause a short.

                              If you use bare wire instead of banana plugs, it's not uncommon the terminals to became loosen as the cables became compressed over the time so check them out periodically and retight if necessary.

                              Have you reported the problem to Rotel by e-mail?

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                              • windshear
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 243

                                #16
                                What speakers are you using, maybe the impedance is consitantly dropping below 4 Ohms and causing the protection to shut down.

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                                • i_amadeo
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2005
                                  • 110

                                  #17
                                  jbl xti 80 for the fronts

                                  jbl xti 20 for the surrounds

                                  both are rated 6 ohm and i removed the xti 20 for paradigm surrounds but the same thing happens

                                  i think the problem is with electrical surges or because i have my tv + vcr + dvd + satelite + pre amp (yamaha 1400)+ rotel 1095 all connected to the same socket via a
                                  connecter ( idont know what you call it its wher you can plug 4 or 5 electric appliances to it and conect that to the wall)

                                  and that is because i have only one outlet
                                  come into the light

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                                  • i_amadeo
                                    Senior Member
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 110

                                    #18
                                    but then again if it is from electric surges why only the fr and the sr that light up

                                    thanks for your help again....
                                    come into the light

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                                    • arrow
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 54

                                      #19
                                      When you turn off your system do you notice that the fr and sr light hit first then trikle the fl and sl and center. I would day they are the first circuit on the power chain and are absorbing the power spike from all that stuff in one outlet. If they are the first to recive power from the xformer then they should be first to react to a power issue Just speculation that is all

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                                      • i_amadeo
                                        Senior Member
                                        • May 2005
                                        • 110

                                        #20
                                        ok guys the technicians came and at first glance told me what is wrong with my rmb 1095

                                        my speakers they suck ....big time now they didnt say that exactly but they might as well have

                                        when they were testing all the eqipment and wiring and so furth they were like the db levels are bad one of the drivers in this speaker is faulty the output is not that great and oh my god was i so embaraced when they saw my puney paradigm surrounds they were like these have to go right now they practicaly whanted to throw them in the trash on the spot ..and replace them with my precence jbl speakeres which in there standards sucked too ...

                                        now these are high end dealers for high end gear no middle or low class bull shit
                                        in Jbl they have the tik ...kefs reference and other exotic beuties ,,,

                                        so there first impression was why the hell did this piece of#@$% get the 1095 and hook it on his system ...what a waste

                                        i told them that i am on a total upgrade and i actualy am thats why i started with the 1095 :T

                                        anyway thanks and will post pics of my total new system in the near future

                                        now i am busy hammering ripping and tearing my old speakers

                                        thank God my 1095 :T is ok thats all ..
                                        come into the light

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                                        • i_amadeo
                                          Senior Member
                                          • May 2005
                                          • 110

                                          #21
                                          sanchez hi...read and learn
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