RSP-1098 vs. Anthem AVM 20

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  • LEVESQUE
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2002
    • 344

    #46
    Sorry Andrew. ops:

    But seeing you in AVS and Hometheater posting link to the Club Rotel did inspire me...

    Just kidding. :LOL:
    To spend more $$$ on electronics without first addressing room acoustics is fruitless IMO.

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    • Andrew Pratt
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Aug 2000
      • 16478

      #47
      But seeing you in AVS and Hometheater posting link to the Club Rotel did inspire me...
      True but I pick my places and don't post in the long pro Anthem thread on HTF to listen to the 1098 b/c I think its better




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      • LEVESQUE
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2002
        • 344

        #48
        If I understand you well, I'm posting in a pro RSP-1098 thread? Provoquing those RSP-1098 users? But posting my opinion on the Anthem AVM20 in Club Rotel is exactly the same has him posting the same question in the Anthem AVM20 thread... What's the difference? Here it's full of Rotel RSP-1098 owners, there it's full of Anthem AVM20 owners... I think it's fair, and will help him make a decision.

        I'm sorry, I should have told him to post that question in the amp section of Hometheaterforum... but the outcome would probably be the same.



        8O :?:
        To spend more $$$ on electronics without first addressing room acoustics is fruitless IMO.

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        • LEVESQUE
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2002
          • 344

          #49
          Double post? Sorry.
          To spend more $$$ on electronics without first addressing room acoustics is fruitless IMO.

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          • Andrew Pratt
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Aug 2000
            • 16478

            #50
            If I understand you well, I'm posting in a pro RSP-1098 thread?
            While we try to be open to all brands this is Club Rotel so yes I'd say it is a pro 1098 thread. He did ask for oppinions on both units though so you are right in posting the benefits of the Anthem. I guess to be fair to both this thread should likely be in the home theater area and not in Club Rotel. I will say though that I wouldn't wear a Maple Leafs jersey in the montreal forum and not expect a little badgering from the local fans (not that you'd catch me wareing a leafs jersey :twisted: )




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            • LEVESQUE
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2002
              • 344

              #51
              I will say though that I wouldn't wear a Maple Leafs jersey in the montreal forum and not expect a little badgering from the local fans (not that you'd catch me wareing a leafs jersey :twisted: )


              LOL. :LOL: :LOL: That,s a good one. Really good analogy. Beeing a hockey fan I can relate.

              Imagine. My dedicated HT should be done in 2 months, so I will enjoy my games on a 108 inches screen with a DII-LA pj !!!
              To spend more $$$ on electronics without first addressing room acoustics is fruitless IMO.

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              • craigdcan
                Member
                • Dec 2002
                • 42

                #52
                Hmm, strange vibe on this. I'm not sure that Club Rotel translates into "only positive things anbout Rotel can be spoken". As I recall, Levesque, was, and is a fan of Rotel. He has recently bought an Anthem and a Bryston to which he loves them both. I also remember that when he had the 1066 and tried the AVM20, that he didn't notice a difference between the two. Now the story has changed....the Bryston was once said to be no differnece, but now it brings out more definition. I can't argue either way, but I do know his opinion has changed....Fact? Imagination? Pride of Ownership?

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                • LEVESQUE
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 344

                  #53
                  Fact? Imagination? Pride of Ownership?

                  I don't know where you can see pride of ownership when I change my equpment every 6 months. I'm soon to change everything again, and will probably go with completely different companies this time. I can afford those new toys, and enjoy trying different companies and mix of equipment. So no pride here, because I don't need to defend or justify what I buy, because they usually give me the equipment, or sell it to me at the cost.

                  I change my TV every 6 to 8 months, and going with a D-ILA PJ in 1 month or 2.

                  Fact? Imagination? No... My opinions were post too fast because of sheer joy and my reviews were post too soon. After living for 2 months with the Anthem AVM20 and the Bryston combo, I can tell you that you didn't read me well... For HT, I did say, and say it again, that the difference is minimale, like we all know. But for 2ch stereo, the difference between the RSP-1066+RMB-1095 and the Anthem AVM20+Bryston 4BSST is night and day for me. And I don't talk about DVD-A and SACD, where the difference is so HUGE, with the BM done in the Anthem AVM20 directly.

                  Before coming here doing a psycho-analysis on my opinions, you should re-read my posts again. I did say that my habits did change. With the Rotel combo, I was doing around 90% HT and 10% 2 ch stereo. With the Anthem-Bryston combo, I'm at around 70% 2 ch stereo and 30% HT. That's why I didn't hear the differences at first, but after 2 months AND changing my listening habits, I clearly chage my mind, and I did explain it. Do you really thing that listening to a DVD, you could hear a big difference between a Mark Levinson and a Rotel combo ? Don't think so. But put a good 2 ch recording, and you won't believe the difference.

                  I will say it again. The Anthem AVM20 + Bryston 4BSST combo beats the Rotel RSP-1066+RMB-1095 by a wide margin for 2 ch stereo, and gives me better separation of the surrounds, and a better use of the surrounds with HT. But the difference is not that big. I think that I did experience what RSP-1066 owners that went with the RSP-1098 did experiences for HT. More agressive, better use of the surrounds. I didn't hear the RSP-1098, but I think the performance is up there with the Anthem AVM20. i didn't say one is better then the other, but for me, the Anthem was more filling my particular needs for my personnal tastes.

                  My dealer just gave me a price on the upcoming Anthem director D-1, but I'm not sure I won't go with the next pre-pro from Bryston. It's not pride of ownership, but OPINIONS.

                  I'm not telling peoples that I know the truth, or that I found the Holy Grail. I'm just giving MY opinion, and I alwaYs clearly state it. You can't comment my shift of opinions, because hearing habits, what we ear, and how we judge a piece of audio equipment is all PERSONNAL, and opinions are like ideas, they change really fast, because they are opinions...

                  If you don't like what I say, or you don't like my opinions, then just don't read my posts! But don't try to analyse everything I say, because if I need to do this, I will hire a psychologist. I you don't like the "vibe" of what my opinions, or my shifts of opinions, sound likes, then don't read them...

                  Just skip my post if you don't like my opinions. That's the fun of the internet. You can read what you want, and go where you want...

                  We are here to have fun. Don't try to take me, or anyone posting here or anywhere on the net, to seriously. We are not professionnal reviewers. It's just a hobby, and we come here only to share opinions.
                  To spend more $$$ on electronics without first addressing room acoustics is fruitless IMO.

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                  • Sithlord10
                    Member
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 89

                    #54
                    Now to a commercial break... 8)

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                    • tominizer
                      Member
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 60

                      #55
                      What's wrong with the Leafs !??!?!?? Just because they suck and can't GET IT DONE, shouldn't mean anything. They have no idea on how to play INTENSE hockey and as I've heard, if you're a professional player playing a sport, you should always be intense. Someone should dump all these bums. I have a collectors series of brown bags one wears to the games................ a new one for every game. I think I'm up to 5 billion bags now. (wait a minute................this isn't going in the right direction ops: )

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                      • Andrew Pratt
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Aug 2000
                        • 16478

                        #56
                        Well it could be worse you could be a canadiens fan :LOL: Actually my beef with the leafs is more that on TSN it seems like the T stands for Toronto since its always a leafs game then someone elses...I'd rather watch the senators play if they have to show an ontario game. Then again my Jets left years ago :cry:




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                        • Scarp
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 632

                          #57
                          Saying that one machine is better than another is quite useless actually. The only thing that you can say is that in *YOUR* ears and in *YOUR* system a certain machine may or may sound more pleasing to *YOU*.

                          Also *combinations* of different equipment is so much important that a Mark Levinson of $45.000 might sound crap in some very expensive systems, but with other components it is may sound beautifull.

                          Build quality of nearly all equipment is good in these price ranges.
                          The sound is different for each brand and can match certain equipment or not.

                          The most important of a music or surround hobby is that you search and find what sounds pleasing to *you* and then start buying movies and music to enjoy. Leave others in their values about their opinions, except when they claim false facts offcourse.

                          Comparing the Anthem here in Holland is difficult, since they are hardly sold. Also in the price range of the 1066 there is nearly no competion, so it more or less beats any pre/pro in its price range.

                          Anyway ... everybody should just enjoy the stuff they have. We are lucky bastards anyway to be talking about equipment at these prices at all.

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                          • Danbry39
                            Super Senior Member
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1584

                            #58
                            Anyway ... everybody should just enjoy the stuff they have. We are lucky bastards anyway to be talking about equipment at these prices at all.
                            :T




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