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  • gerardhn
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 352

    #1

    First test of 802 di

    Hi,

    Pls check this from good german magazine:



    Unfornately for many (not for me) in German,

    Conclusion: Dramatically better compared the old one, not expensive, requires less power than old one.

    But I wil not do the whole translation!
  • style
    Super Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1562

    #2
    Hoi gerardhn,

    I have the 803 Di powered from a Classe CA2200/CA3200 and SSP800.

    before I had the "old" 803D as front (center htm2d): with the new diamont from B&W the SSP dont give the same power intention on the rear.= the front is amazing vs. the rear before more "present"

    with the new B&W diamont the setting from the SSP800 must be changed to have a great surround : a great "surrround sensation like before.

    I dont know if you have the SSP and what for speakers you have but
    everybody have had the same "sensation???

    the new B&W are always 8ohm but need so fell power the give the best:
    the "old" 803D at this moment as the rear are wasted!: 805S with the results you get soooo good!

    A perfect match? a 804D or 805D!!!! :W


    groeten
    style

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    • gerardhn
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 352

      #3
      Hi Style,

      My link was meant for 802 X lovers!
      I dont have your experience. I only do stereo.
      BTW, you should be able to read the German text!

      Last month, there was/is a test in stereoplay of the 804D. Also superb. Did you see that?

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      • style
        Super Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 1562

        #4
        Hoi,

        yes, I read Stereoplay & Stereo too.

        Zeitungen wirklich gut gemacht: von Highend bis "entrylevel"

        Stereo is for the best from the 2....

        (I work in Switzerland for a Nederland Bedrijf :W )

        I have the new 803di and I can assure you the the new serie is - the al serie - very amazing.

        where are you in NL? ops:

        style

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        • emig5m
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 646

          #5
          I wish I could directly compare the 804S to 804Di....

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          • style
            Super Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1562

            #6
            Hy emig5m,

            I have compared the 803D and 803Di.... 8O

            the 804S is a good speaker but with all respect the new 804D win open hand!!

            never lisnte the new serei from B&W?

            at the first 10 days with the 803D and 803Di I had say ok, is better but now after a pair month I don't can listen the 803D with the 803Di.

            I had change the SSP setting becouse the 803Di with minus "power" sound muchmore open, soundstage, surgical, controlled sound in all frequencies

            The new series will amaze you! :W

            Style

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            • stuofsci02
              Super Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1241

              #7
              Originally posted by emig5m
              I wish I could directly compare the 804S to 804Di....
              I will be able to soon.. My Dealer just got the 805Di and I went and listened for 2 hours last Saturday. He should have the 804Di in soon..
              Main System:
              B&W 801D
              Emotiva USP-1 Pre-Amp
              Chord SPM-650 Stereo Amp
              Oppo BDP-105
              Squeezebox Touch


              Second System:
              B&W CM7
              Emotiva UMC-1
              Emotiva UPA-2
              Oppo BDP-83SE
              Grant Fidelity DAC-09

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              • garak
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 310

                #8
                Originally posted by style
                Hy emig5m,

                I have compared the 803D and 803Di.... 8O

                the 804S is a good speaker but with all respect the new 804D win open hand!!

                never lisnte the new serei from B&W?

                at the first 10 days with the 803D and 803Di I had say ok, is better but now after a pair month I don't can listen the 803D with the 803Di.

                I had change the SSP setting becouse the 803Di with minus "power" sound muchmore open, soundstage, surgical, controlled sound in all frequencies

                The new series will amaze you! :W

                Style
                Hi Omar,

                I'm glad you're enjoying your 803Di. I placed my order for 802Di last November, and I am still waiting - after my dealer said I should have them by February or March.

                I'm guessing the lighter magnets is what allows the new series to be run with less power. Less mass to move means less energy needed to move them. Perhaps this also leads to the greater control that you talk about - less mass also means more responsive.

                Brian

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                • ShadowZA
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1099

                  #9
                  Originally posted by style
                  ... I have the 803 Di powered from a Classe CA2200/CA3200 and SSP800. ...

                  style
                  Hi Omar, congratulations on your new 803Di's! :T

                  I have not yet listened to any of the new "Di" series but from what you have mentioned it would seem that a major advantage is that the Di's can perform way better than their previous brethren when driven by amplifiers that are not huge power/current beasts. I still cling to the belief that more power is better but the point that I want to make is that only now can I say that my 802D's are performing at their best - by being driven by a power/current beast of note.

                  Of course, this means that it will not be necessary for you to ever upgrade your amplifiers (given your present speaker preference) ... and that is a good thing indeed.

                  Wishing you the best of audio enjoyment!

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                  • Kal Rubinson
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2109

                    #10
                    Originally posted by garak
                    I'm guessing the lighter magnets is what allows the new series to be run with less power. Less mass to move means less energy needed to move them. Perhaps this also leads to the greater control that you talk about - less mass also means more responsive.
                    Since the magnets are fixed and not part of the moving structure, their weight (apart from any other changed parameters) will not change the moving mass, the control of it or the efficiency.
                    Kal Rubinson
                    _______________________________
                    "Music in the Round"
                    Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                    http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                    • style
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1562

                      #11
                      Hi Brian & Lucien,

                      I had to choice from a pir of B&W802 demo with 200 hr. or the new 803Di.
                      After a time of indecision i'm go with my "normal" dealer with the 803Di.

                      I can say/assure you thath the new serie is very amazing.

                      My SSP800 sound very different: the woofer of yes not so big & heavy.
                      the control of the LF is more easy and is surgical :W

                      all the setup in the SSP are to be change. the rear dont are so "present" like before": the front end is amazing.


                      Lucien: your Krell 403is to at home: very great set :T

                      Briam I had my 803Di with the held from my freind at the B&W: the second shipping in europa from B&W and I had the fortune to have the 803Di...
                      I hope you go have the 802Di very fast.
                      i dont' not if you go keep the 803D as rear with the 802Di....

                      I have at this moment the 803D and the 805S: the 803D are waste as rear!!
                      maybe I go with the 805S as rear....


                      I go send you some pictures as PM.

                      the Evo403 is very amazing amplifier 8O .

                      I had the Rosenut like my Htm2D : the piano black is very nice/beautiful but too delicate a speaker so important and is very easy to just move the signs him... ops: 8O


                      Omar

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                      • Pio
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 169

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                        Since the magnets are fixed and not part of the moving structure, their weight (apart from any other changed parameters) will not change the moving mass, the control of it or the efficiency.
                        Kal

                        When are you guys at the magazine going to get a review sample of the new 802'S??
                        Stereo: Revel F208, Parasound JC2, JC1's, Oppo HA-1, VPI, Dynavector, Moon

                        HT: B&W 802D2, 805S, HTM4, Marantz, OPPO BDP95, Velodyne DD-12's

                        HP / secondary system: Woo Audio W2, Carver Sunfire, Kef LS50, Denon, and too many headphones to list

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                        • Kal Rubinson
                          Super Senior Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 2109

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pio
                          Kal

                          When are you guys at the magazine going to get a review sample of the new 802'S??
                          They've been promised. When they arrive, they will be reviewed.
                          Kal Rubinson
                          _______________________________
                          "Music in the Round"
                          Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                          http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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