802d and 802di a/b test

[Highroller]

Has anyone had a chance to do this test?

[aarsoe]

NO - but I have upgrade my 802D's with new Mundorf cross over caps from their silver/gold/oil range. In my opinion that is the single biggest improvement over the D model.
SO the result? Much improved clarity, better focus, more depth. The sound stage have been moved 3 feet forward and is more engaging.
So I assume my observations would be true for the diamond series as well... OR...?

[wettou]

Has anyone had a chance to do this test?

Yes I went to my dealer and he had both so I asked him if he could do that for me. I spent an hour comparing the two with same equipment (Marantz, pre-pro, monoblocks and SACD) I tried all sorts of music from Classical, Rock, Blues, Jazz and vocals.

To make a long story short, the result is that the 802Di seemed a little bit better but definitely not worth upgrading from 802D. He even told me unless you have money to burn don't bother as the 802D are excellent and it would not be a smart expense!! Talk about an honest dealer:T

I am thinking about the 805Di for surround to replace my 802 Nautilus that would be awesome.

[wettou]

NO - but I have upgrade my 802D's with new Mundorf cross over caps from their silver/gold/oil range. In my opinion that is the single biggest improvement over the D model.

SO the result? Much improved clarity, better focus, more depth. The sound stage have been moved 3 feet forward and is more engaging.
So I assume my observations would be true for the diamond series as well... OR...?

How did you do that? Where can I find these new Mundorf?

[aarsoe]

You can try parts connection.

[Jonzie]

Well, I A/B'ed 804Di and 803D (old). The 804 was much much clearer. I don't know how people in here have been testing, but my experience is that the transparency of the new speakers has been impressively improved. But it also means that they are not AS allround in terms of electronics as the old, as they might become too sharp for very transparent systems. But again, that is beginning a discussion on taste, and then we'll never be home for dinner

[vlasis]

How did you do that? Where can I find these new Mundorf?

http://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/index_en.htm?/hifi/cond_mun_en.htm

http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/m_cap.html

http://www.madisound.com/manufacture...capacitors.php :T :T

[BowersMcIntosh]

NO - but I have upgrade my 802D's with new Mundorf cross over caps from their silver/gold/oil range. In my opinion that is the single biggest improvement over the D model.
SO the result? Much improved clarity, better focus, more depth. The sound stage have been moved 3 feet forward and is more engaging.
So I assume my observations would be true for the diamond series as well... OR...?

There is 2 crossover boards (HM/L) in 802D and they are in the bottom of the speaker box, which is easier to modify. Does anyone knows or had experiences in modifying 803D? 803D has 3 separated crossover boards H/M/L all over the speaker. I would like to try those MCAP too...

[Jonzie]

Hello!

Do a google translate on this one. You might find it interesting. It's an A/B test of the 802D vs. 802 Diamond.

http://www.elfbi.com/phpBB2/viewtopi...t=1859&start=0

[dan87951]

I listen to the same setup 804Di and 803D's and found the 803D's much better! The 804Di's sound thin and definitely couldn't fill out the lower end compared to the 803D's.

[JesperA]

I listen to the same setup 804Di and 803D's and found the 803D's much better! The 804Di's sound thin and definitely couldn't fill out the lower end compared to the 803D's.

Thats pretty obvious, its a big difference between the old 804D and 803D, the 803Di sure can fill out equal or even more then the 803D

[stuofsci02]

I listen to the same setup 804Di and 803D's and found the 803D's much better! The 804Di's sound thin and definitely couldn't fill out the lower end compared to the 803D's.

Can you elaborate on what tonal qualitys made you feel the 803D was "much" better then the 804Di?

I think it is a given that the 804Di will not compete with the 803D when it comes to lower end. It is just a function of air volume. For those of us who are not as interested in bottom end or who will use subs to augment the bottom end, can you add anything to your comparison in terms of soundstage, midrange, treble etc?

Thanks,

Stuart