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  • RNKC
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 197

    #1

    ASW 855 - review

    My system:

    N802
    (Nautilus) HTM2
    N805

    Mark Levinson 432 powering the N802
    Proceed Amp3 for everything else
    Proceed AVP2

    Mark Levinson 390s CD transport
    Magnum Dynalab FT101 FM tuner
    various consumer-grade DVD players, Blu-ray etc
    Revo internet radio (great little device!)


    I listen primarily to 2-channel audio but the setup is obviously there for movies as well. I know intellectually that for movies I've been missing a bit on the deep bass stuff, but an explosion is an explosion and I don't much care about that stuff. But 2-channel audio is a completely different matter to me. I simply adore hearing the slightest bit of detail when the strings pluck or when the woodwinds breathe. I admire how the best orchestras in the world can play as one when they go from a delicate pianissimo to a full, thundering forte.

    And it's here that I sensed, on a handful of recordings, that my trusty and much-loved N802 weren't reproducing everything that was on the CD. For casual listening it wasn't a big deal. But when I was listening, I mean really listening, I could just tell that there was something not quite there.

    Finally, after years of running a 5.0 surround system (again, most of that in 2.0) I decided that it was time to get that .1 channel. Courtesy of Audiogon I came across an ASW855 for sale.

    I was challenged to get the 855 installed. It's big! It's much bigger than I thought it would be. Now that it's been here for about a month, I have to admit (sheepishly) that it's probably a little too big. It's about half the height of my N802 and it's much bigger around the waist. This is one serious sub.

    But looks aside, what matters most is the sound. And here I have to say, I'm absolutely delighted with my new sub. It sounds exactly as I would expect an 800-series speaker to sound.

    What's interesting is that it seamlessly integrates (sonically) with the rest of the system. I don't hear the sub but I do notice there's much more bass now. The sound is detailed and quite musical. It can be loud without ever becoming boomy. And when I have the movies going - yup, those explosions really can shake the walls. (Literally!!)

    I have the processor setup now to send everything below 30Hz to the sub. That means it actually doesn't come on very much. But most of the time I can't tell if it's on or off; so seamless is the sonic integration of the system. I have a recording of Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique (Berlin Philharmonic under Maris Jansons). In the final movement, the big bass drum sounds like it's coming from where it really was for that recording - slightly left of centre at the rear of the orchestra. My sub is on the left of my left N802 yet the sound is coming from the other side!

    Sub.....N802(left)....Sound....N802(right)

    I have another recording of the organ at St. Suplice in Paris. When the organist hits that low C, well let me tell you, that is one fine instrument they have at St. Sulpice! And this is one fine sub that the crew at B&W have crafted.

    If I had to do it again I would probably go for the ASW825 simply because of the size. But I'm very happy with the 855. I think in fact, that the 855 is the first and last sub I'm ever going to buy.

    Now if I could just win the lottery so I can upgrade the N802 to the Nautilus snail ...
  • sikoniko
    Super Senior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 2299

    #2
    Originally posted by RNKC
    If I had to do it again I would probably go for the ASW825 simply because of the size. But I'm very happy with the 855.
    you know, its funny you say that, because I said the same thing after buying the 850. The only best thing than an 855 is 2 855's. Trust me, it does get better and equalizes the pressure in a room nicely!
    I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round...

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    • Race Car Driver
      Super Senior Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 1540

      #3
      Originally posted by sikoniko
      you know, its funny you say that, because I said the same thing after buying the 850. The only best thing than an 855 is 2 855's. Trust me, it does get better and equalizes the pressure in a room nicely!
      I had an 825, sold it for the 855. Like I have mentioned before I was much happier with the 825. Im sure I would have been happier with the 855 if I had a bigger room.

      Like the OP, I had N802s, HTM1, SCM1 rear and ASW855.
      B&W

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      • sikoniko
        Super Senior Member
        • Aug 2003
        • 2299

        #4
        Originally posted by Race Car Driver
        I had an 825, sold it for the 855. Like I have mentioned before I was much happier with the 825. Im sure I would have been happier with the 855 if I had a bigger room.

        Like the OP, I had N802s, HTM1, SCM1 rear and ASW855.
        850/855's are huge subs in comparison and are harder to place than the 825's.
        I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round...

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        • bigburner
          Super Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 2649

          #5
          Originally posted by RNKC
          I have the processor setup now to send everything below 30Hz to the sub.
          Forgive me RNKC, but I think that's a complete waste of a great sub. You're not getting any music at those frequencies, just background rumble. Please experiment with upping that frequency - right up to 120Hz, particularly if you're listening (or watching) live music. Go on. What have you got to lose?

          Nigel.

          PS Great for movies though (dinosaurs, earthquakes etc).

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          • nikos
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 172

            #6
            Originally posted by bigburner
            Forgive me RNKC, but I think that's a complete waste of a great sub. You're not getting any music at those frequencies, just background rumble. Please experiment with upping that frequency - right up to 120Hz, particularly if you're listening (or watching) live music. Go on. What have you got to lose?

            Nigel.

            PS Great for movies though (dinosaurs, earthquakes etc).

            I tend to agree with Nigel...

            and to add experiment with your settings and set the main speakers as small on your pre/pro and crossover the sub in increments up to 120Hz. I prefer 80Hz.

            Enjoy.
            Classe SSP-800, Classe CA-5200, B&W 803D, B&W HTM2D, JL Audio Fathom f113 Subwoofer, Rotel RMB-1077(for sale), Oppo DV-983H, Panasonic PT-AE900U Xbox360, Sony PS3, Samsung 8000 Series 55" LCD, Klipsch promedia 5.1 ultra for PC

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            • RNKC
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 197

              #7
              No offence taken. I'm still fiddling with my settings but I don't want to change them too frequently. I like setting, then listening for a week or so. I take my time with these things.

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              • bigburner
                Super Senior Member
                • May 2005
                • 2649

                #8
                Originally posted by nikos
                I tend to agree with Nigel...

                and to add experiment with your settings and set the main speakers as small on your pre/pro and crossover the sub in increments up to 120Hz. I prefer 80Hz.

                Enjoy.
                nikos, I generally prefer 80Hz too but some music DVDs benefit from going up to 120Hz on my system. It reproduces the live environment better.

                Nigel.

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                • RNKC
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 197

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sikoniko
                  The only best thing than an 855 is 2 855's. Trust me, it does get better and equalizes the pressure in a room nicely!
                  After a few months of use, I can see where you're coming from. As much as the 855 is a serious physical presence in the room (but never sonically overwhelming) I find that I don't really hear the sub itself. There's just more bass coming in ways that still delight me. But because of my room configuration, I am unfortunately forced to sit too close to my speakers.

                  As a result, I do tend to feel the sub. The pressure changes in the room are subtle, but noticeable to me. I'm confident that 2 855's would nicely rebalance the room pressure. But alas, there's no way I could physically fit 2 of these beauties in my current room.

                  On the topic of crossover, I've continued to slowly play with various settings and I agree with previous posters - 80Hz is the sweet spot.

                  At this point, I think my line in the sand has been drawn. This is the system that will keep me going for a long long time. Upgrade-itis will always be there of course, but I'm content with this system and don't see myself making any more changes (unless I am suddenly and dramatically financially enriched via lottery winnings).

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                  • emig5m
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 646

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RNKC
                    At this point, I think my line in the sand has been drawn. This is the system that will keep me going for a long long time. Upgrade-itis will always be there of course, but I'm content with this system and don't see myself making any more changes (unless I am suddenly and dramatically financially enriched via lottery winnings).
                    You and me both. :rofl:

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                    • 97disco
                      Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 93

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RNKC
                      After a few months of use, I can see where you're coming from. As much as the 855 is a serious physical presence in the room (but never sonically overwhelming) I find that I don't really hear the sub itself. There's just more bass coming in ways that still delight me. But because of my room configuration, I am unfortunately forced to sit too close to my speakers.

                      As a result, I do tend to feel the sub. The pressure changes in the room are subtle, but noticeable to me. I'm confident that 2 855's would nicely rebalance the room pressure. But alas, there's no way I could physically fit 2 of these beauties in my current room.

                      I also have been running its predecessor (the ASW 850), and I think I will ever change it. Its a phenomenal music sub, and fills a room that is 16x28 quite well. The only thing that could be better is two 850's which would make the music more balanced. (But another sub is WAY at the bottom of the upgrade list).

                      PS: The rest of the system is 704's up front with the HTM7 and 303's as rears.

                      Enjoy your beautiful sub!
                      B&W 704's
                      B&W HTM7
                      B&W DS7's (rears)
                      B&W 850 Subwoofer
                      Rotel RSP 1066
                      Rotel RMB 1075
                      Rotel RDV-1060
                      B&W Zepplin

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                      • ray5
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 444

                        #12
                        HI! I too am looking at the same sub. But hear a lot about the room equalization features of the Velodynes and JL audio's. Does anyone with the B&W's feel the lack of it?
                        Ray

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