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  • gbowers
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1

    #1

    Why Rotel when Nad is better SQ amplification

    Please explain why B&W speaker owners buy Rotel when Nad amplification sounds just as clean with substantially better dynamics, bass, detail and more importantly, musical presence.

    When auditioning B&W 804s and 803s speakers, only Classee and Nad M3 integrated amps made speakers sing as designed. Rotel separate amps sounded dry, nuetral and not musical - B&W speakers SQ compromised with Rotel amplification.
  • btf1980
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 705

    #2
    Everything you said is subjective. I will respectfully disagree.
    A camera, passport, good music, good food and good company is all I need.

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    • Alaric
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 4151

      #3
      May I ask why you chose to trash a well respected brand with your first post here? While I respect NAD , their amps always sounded a little "dark" to me. I had the opportunity to hear a RB1090 with Paradigm S8s a few years ago , and that amp did NOT fit your description. Are you referring only to the Class D amps of Rotel? Even so , "substantially better dynamics , bass , detail.." doesn't describe any Rotel I've ever heard compared to a NAD amp.
      Are you a frustrated NAD salesman?
      Lee

      Marantz PM7200-RIP
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      Schiit Modi 3
      Marantz CD5005
      Paradigm Studio 60 v.3

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      • Allegiance
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 247

        #4
        Originally posted by Alaric
        May I ask why you chose to trash a well respected brand with your first post here? While I respect NAD , their amps always sounded a little "dark" to me. I had the opportunity to hear a RB1090 with Paradigm S8s a few years ago , and that amp did NOT fit your description. Are you referring only to the Class D amps of Rotel? Even so , "substantially better dynamics , bass , detail.." doesn't describe any Rotel I've ever heard compared to a NAD amp.
        Are you a frustrated NAD salesman?
        +1, I agree. Wierd way to introduce him/her self.

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        • Nolan B
          Super Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 1792

          #5
          Originally posted by gbowers
          Please explain why B&W speaker owners buy Rotel when Nad amplification sounds just as clean with substantially better dynamics, bass, detail and more importantly, musical presence.

          When auditioning B&W 804s and 803s speakers, only Classee and Nad M3 integrated amps made speakers sing as designed. Rotel separate amps sounded dry, nuetral and not musical - B&W speakers SQ compromised with Rotel amplification.

          I disagree.

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          • HDBLU
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 311

            #6
            Musical Fidelity will blow Nad & Rotel away.
            2ch Setup
            Krix Neupohonix
            Musical Fidelity M6i
            Musical Fidelity M6CDP
            Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

            Cables I Use
            MIT

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            • Allegiance
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2006
              • 247

              #7
              Originally posted by HDBLU
              Musical Fidelity will blow Nad & Rotel away.
              Classe will blow Musical Fidelity away :P

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              • Opus007
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 454

                #8
                To each his own.Classe (Classee ?) in my opinion is in a league of it's own.Rotel on the other hand can not be compared to Nad.It is a complete different sound.Rotel blends very nicely with B&W.Both made by the same company.I have audition Nad with B&W and found it to be very bass heavy and lacking in dynamics and sound stage.I actually felt that Nad muddled the music.You say you auditioned integrated amps.The only current Rotel integrated I am aware of is the RA-1062 which is only 60watts x2.So if you where auditioning the B&W 804's and 803's with the 1062 I would say you where under powering the B&W's.Just my 2 cents worth.

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                • Opus007
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 454

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HDBLU
                  Musical Fidelity will blow Nad & Rotel away.
                  Must disagree here also.I auditioned a Musical Fidelity A3.5 with a set of B&W 703's and thought it was very dry.Only my 2 cents worth....

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                  • HDBLU
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 311

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Allegiance
                    Classe will blow Musical Fidelity away :P
                    What about the New Musical Fidelity Titan Power Amplifier & Primo Pre-amp :B And I have a Rotel Amplifier and they are very nice Amplifier for the price range.
                    2ch Setup
                    Krix Neupohonix
                    Musical Fidelity M6i
                    Musical Fidelity M6CDP
                    Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

                    Cables I Use
                    MIT

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                    • audioqueso
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1933

                      #11
                      Sadly, I think the original poster accomplished what he was seeking to do: bash something on the first post, and watch the chain reaction by others.
                      B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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                      • lvhung
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 301

                        #12
                        Rotel stereo is very very good and depending on the speakers

                        but sorry BW is over priced and the sound is very lacking of presence and air

                        I am a Rotel lover but not BW

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                        • specialized
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 332

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lvhung
                          Rotel stereo is very very good and depending on the speakers

                          but sorry BW is over priced and the sound is very lacking of presence and air

                          I am a Rotel lover but not BW

                          B&W need matching electronics to get most of them.. I had a chance to try my B&W 803s connected to Rotel RB-1080 (which i listen for almost year), and Marantz Tube Preamp Model7.. Woooooooow.. I realized that i never had a chance before to check what 803s can do.. Wonderfull.. So try B&W with proper electronics and give them a chance again U wont regret

                          Darko

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                          • mjb
                            Super Senior Member
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 1485

                            #14
                            Lots of bold statements here - at the end of the day its all a matter of choice.
                            - Mike

                            Main System:
                            B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
                            Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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                            • altanpsx
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 63

                              #15
                              If you don't drive a B&W with Classe, you are not listening B&W....(classe owner )

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                              • HDBLU
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 311

                                #16
                                I think DALI Speaker are better then B&W
                                2ch Setup
                                Krix Neupohonix
                                Musical Fidelity M6i
                                Musical Fidelity M6CDP
                                Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

                                Cables I Use
                                MIT

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                                • Isaac
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2006
                                  • 151

                                  #17
                                  Coby amp and Insignia speakers rock!

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                                  • GregLett
                                    Senior Member
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 755

                                    #18
                                    My dad can beatup your dad!
                                    Greg

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                                    • wkhanna
                                      Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
                                      • Jan 2006
                                      • 5674

                                      #19
                                      Maybe, But my mom can take your dad!
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                                      Bill

                                      Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
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                                      • GregLett
                                        Senior Member
                                        • May 2005
                                        • 755

                                        #20
                                        Lmao..
                                        Greg

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                                        • Nolan B
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • Sep 2005
                                          • 1792

                                          #21

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                                          • dknightd
                                            Senior Member
                                            • Mar 2006
                                            • 620

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gbowers
                                            Please explain why B&W speaker owners buy Rotel when Nad amplification sounds just as clean with substantially better dynamics, bass, detail and more importantly, musical presence.

                                            When auditioning B&W 804s and 803s speakers, only Classee and Nad M3 integrated amps made speakers sing as designed. Rotel separate amps sounded dry, nuetral and not musical - B&W speakers SQ compromised with Rotel amplification.
                                            Buy whatever makes you happy

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                                            • RobP
                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 4747

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by gbowers
                                              Please explain why B&W speaker owners buy Rotel when Nad amplification sounds just as clean with substantially better dynamics, bass, detail and more importantly, musical presence.

                                              When auditioning B&W 804s and 803s speakers, only Classee and Nad M3 integrated amps made speakers sing as designed. Rotel separate amps sounded dry, nuetral and not musical - B&W speakers SQ compromised with Rotel amplification.

                                              Congratulations on your first post, seems that you have made quite the entrance here, nice job.
                                              Robert P. 8)

                                              AKA "Soundgravy"

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