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  • William
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 194

    #1

    Speculation on backorder time for HTM1D

    I just made a deal to upgrade to a pair of 802Ds and an HTM1D. I have a pair of 803Ds that I'll be moving to the rear. I just got word that the 802Ds shipped but the HTM1D is backordered. I know there is no way to know but speculating what is the approximate time frame I'm looking at? Is there a boat on the water or are they cranking up the line to make HTM1Ds today and it will be several weeks? BTW my color is Cherry which sees to be less popular right now than Rosenut.
  • William
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 194

    #2
    Anyone had any experience with ordering 800 series (or any B&W speaker product) and having an item backordered? If so could you share an anecdote.

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    • htsteve
      Super Senior Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 1216

      #3
      William,

      I believe B&W has a big distribution point in the Buffalo area. If the item ordered is not there, then they'll have to get one from England. I would suspect a couple of weeks to get the HTM1D.

      In the meantime, enjoy those 802D's. And the 803D's as rears.

      What are you driving them with?



      Hope this helps.

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      • William
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 194

        #4
        Originally posted by htsteve
        William,

        I believe B&W has a big distribution point in the Buffalo area. If the item ordered is not there, then they'll have to get one from England. I would suspect a couple of weeks to get the HTM1D.

        In the meantime, enjoy those 802D's. And the 803D's as rears.

        What are you driving them with?



        Hope this helps.
        Don't have the 802D's yet either. They were shipped Wednesday from Buffalo. Hopefully they will be here first of next week. It's hard to cry too much since I'm just barely getting by with an HTM2D (sold) for my center right now but... Also right now I have 803Ds as mains (moving to rears) and 804Ns (sold) in the rears. I have an Emotiva XPA-5. I hope by the end of the year to move to 3 XPA-1's monoblocks (fronts) and a XPA-2 for the rears but for now the XPA-5 will do the trick.

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        • Mark-n-b
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2005
          • 188

          #5
          Originally posted by William
          Don't have the 802D's yet either. They were shipped Wednesday from Buffalo. Hopefully they will be here first of next week. It's hard to cry too much since I'm just barely getting by with an HTM2D (sold) for my center right now but... Also right now I have 803Ds as mains (moving to rears) and 804Ns (sold) in the rears. I have an Emotiva XPA-5. I hope by the end of the year to move to 3 XPA-1's monoblocks (fronts) and a XPA-2 for the rears but for now the XPA-5 will do the trick.

          That is a great system and I would love to see some more photos, especially after you have received your new components.

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          • William
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 194

            #6
            My 802D's are here (at least in ATL) and will be delivered tomorrow. My dealer said the HTM1D is "weeks" away. When pressed he, sounding pessimistic said about 3 to 4 which translates to 6 weeks or more. This is pretty ridicules that B&W is allowing their inventories to become completely depleted before even attempting to do a refill. It almost sounds like my HDM1D hasn't even been built yet. :M Of course it is hard to get much sympathy since I have a HDM2D to get by with but I have paid for the HDM1D.

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            • William
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 194

              #7
              Just got an update from my dealer and it is not good at all. It looks like it will be mid March at the earliest before I will have it. That is a ridiculously long time B&W is taking to replenish inventory.

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              • htsteve
                Super Senior Member
                • Sep 2004
                • 1216

                #8
                That does seem like a long time. Call B&W and ask them directly.

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                • wettou
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 3398

                  #9
                  Originally posted by William
                  Just got an update from my dealer and it is not good at all. It looks like it will be mid March at the earliest before I will have it. That is a ridiculously long time B&W is taking to replenish inventory.
                  They probably decided to reduce production as the market is slowing! Also let me know when you get the XPA-1 what you think.

                  How is the XPA-5 working out did you compare it to Classe CA-5200
                  Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                  • William
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 194

                    #10
                    Originally posted by htsteve
                    That does seem like a long time. Call B&W and ask them directly.
                    I called and was given the number for my regional salesperson (Chris). He called me back Sunday. He says that B&W keeps about a 4 month inventory on hand (seems reasonable) and the last one was sold just hours before my order was placed. What's odd is how rare the HDM1D is and they only keep 2 (I assumes 2 per (3) finish) on hand. So that would mean that B&W only sales a little over 1 HTM1D a month (all finishes combined). He said they sell "tons of 802D's and HTM2D's" which makes sense but I was surprised at how few people buy the HTM1D. He said that almost everyone pairs the 802D's with the HTM2D. Also he said a ship left England Friday bound for the US but it would be until mid March before I would get it. It seems like a long time for transit and processing but there is noting I can do except wait and cry.

                    So no one on this forum has an HTM1D?

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                    • Race Car Driver
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1540

                      #11
                      Makes total sense to me, a $9000 center isnt going to be as common as one that does a damn good job at half the cost.

                      Although I would love to have a 1d. Drool

                      6 weeks will go by quick.
                      B&W

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                      • htsteve
                        Super Senior Member
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1216

                        #12
                        Originally posted by William
                        I called and was given the number for my regional salesperson (Chris). He called me back Sunday. He says that B&W keeps about a 4 month inventory on hand (seems reasonable) and the last one was sold just hours before my order was placed. What's odd is how rare the HDM1D is and they only keep 2 (I assumes 2 per (3) finish) on hand. So that would mean that B&W only sales a little over 1 HTM1D a month (all finishes combined). He said they sell "tons of 802D's and HTM2D's" which makes sense but I was surprised at how few people buy the HTM1D. He said that almost everyone pairs the 802D's with the HTM2D. Also he said a ship left England Friday bound for the US but it would be until mid March before I would get it. It seems like a long time for transit and processing but there is noting I can do except wait and cry.

                        So no one on this forum has an HTM1D?
                        William,

                        I'm glad you at least have an answer now. There is one person on the forum I know of who has an HTM1D (misterdoggy). However, he is in France, so the distribution model is most likely different.

                        I figured the the HTM1D would be a rare item. Besides it big cost, the thing is HUGE. And unless you have a dedicated room where you can put that on the floor, it's tough logistically. Much smaller market to sell to.


                        It will be worth it in the end.

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                        • dknightd
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 620

                          #13
                          Is air shipment an option. Might be worth it if you do not want to wait for the ship to come in.

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                          • William
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 194

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dknightd
                            Is air shipment an option. Might be worth it if you do not want to wait for the ship to come in.
                            At about 250lbs shipping weight it would likely cost almost as much as the speaker. :B

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                            • dknightd
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 620

                              #15
                              Originally posted by William
                              At about 250lbs shipping weight it would likely cost almost as much as the speaker. :B
                              Probably much less than the cost of the speaker.

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                              • William
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 194

                                #16
                                Originally posted by dknightd
                                Probably much less than the cost of the speaker.
                                The :B means I was being facetious and not literal. However it would still be prohibitory expensive. I'm already paying (paid) for the speaker so why should I have to pay extra to have B&W deliver it? Now if B&W would air ship it that would be a different story.

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                                • beden1
                                  Super Senior Member
                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 1676

                                  #17
                                  I think dKnightd was referring to you contacting MisterDoggy to try and buy his HTM1D that is for sale on Audiogon. His asking price should still give you savings including shipping charges from Europe.

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                                  • jericho
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 280

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by htsteve
                                    William,

                                    I'm glad you at least have an answer now. There is one person on the forum I know of who has an HTM1D (misterdoggy). However, he is in France, so the distribution model is most likely different.

                                    I figured the the HTM1D would be a rare item. Besides it big cost, the thing is HUGE. And unless you have a dedicated room where you can put that on the floor, it's tough logistically. Much smaller market to sell to.


                                    It will be worth it in the end.

                                    I also have a HTM-1d already for two years!!

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                                    • misterdoggy
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • May 2005
                                      • 1418

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mark-n-b
                                      That is a great system and I would love to see some more photos, especially after you have received your new components.

                                      Nice looking Room !!

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                                      • wettou
                                        Ultra Senior Member
                                        • May 2006
                                        • 3398

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                        Nice looking Room !!
                                        MrDoggy, saw your ads in Audiogon, too bad I don't live in France very nice deals
                                        Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                        • misterdoggy
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • May 2005
                                          • 1418

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by wettou
                                          MrDoggy, saw your ads in Audiogon, too bad I don't live in France very nice deals
                                          With a name like Wettou you should live in France

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                                          • William
                                            Senior Member
                                            • Aug 2006
                                            • 194

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                            Nice looking Room !!
                                            Thanks misterdoggy,

                                            May I ask why you are selling your HTM1D (not unhappy with performance I hope)? What are/will you be using for a center?

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                                            • wettou
                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                              • May 2006
                                              • 3398

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                              With a name like Wettou you should live in France
                                              France hum that's a thought maybe in an other life :B
                                              Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                              • William
                                                Senior Member
                                                • Aug 2006
                                                • 194

                                                #24
                                                Talked to my dealer yesterday and he had a picture of the B&W boat on it way across the Atlantic. He said they only issued the crew 1 gallon of water and 5 candy bars with promises of food a plenty on arrival in hopes of speeding the crossing. Too bad they could only come up with 1 paddle.

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                                                • Kal Rubinson
                                                  Super Senior Member
                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                  • 2109

                                                  #25
                                                  But it's a Marlan boat and paddle.

                                                  Kal
                                                  Kal Rubinson
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                                                  • emig5m
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Aug 2008
                                                    • 646

                                                    #26
                                                    I hate how you can't just go down to Best Buy and get a HTM1D when you need one....

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                                                    • artv4
                                                      Senior Member
                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                      • 277

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by William
                                                      Anyone had any experience with ordering 800 series (or any B&W speaker product) and having an item backordered? If so could you share an anecdote.
                                                      i ordered another b&w vm6 to add to my system. i plan to go 7.1 to take advantage of the new surround formats. i was told that my vm6 is going to be backordered and could take 3 days to 3 months to ship........ what is going on?
                                                      GO Revel!!!!! (powered by ;x( Anthem)

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                                                      • SoundEngine355
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • Feb 2008
                                                        • 313

                                                        #28
                                                        Here in Australia the 803D's are on 8 weeks back order.
                                                        SoundEngine355

                                                        -------------------
                                                        [Music] B&W 800D | Classe CDP202 +M400s | Velodyne DD15

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                                                        • JargonGR
                                                          Member
                                                          • Feb 2009
                                                          • 95

                                                          #29
                                                          Here in Greece I got my 800Ds in three weeks and my HTM1D in two. Maybe I was lucky.

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                                                          • misterdoggy
                                                            Super Senior Member
                                                            • May 2005
                                                            • 1418

                                                            #30
                                                            I have an htm1d in France near Geneva if anyone wants to come and get it

                                                            No waiting ready to go

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                                                            • ray5
                                                              Senior Member
                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                              • 444

                                                              #31
                                                              802d

                                                              Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                                                              But it's a Marlan boat and paddle.

                                                              Kal
                                                              Just sent you a PM.
                                                              Ray

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                                                              • wettou
                                                                Ultra Senior Member
                                                                • May 2006
                                                                • 3398

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                I have an htm1d in France near Geneva if anyone wants to come and get it No waiting ready to go
                                                                I will wait for spring it's too cold right now :B

                                                                Question: What are you getting for your new home? It's going to be tough downgrading from 800D and HTM1D
                                                                Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                                                • misterdoggy
                                                                  Super Senior Member
                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                  • 1418

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by wettou
                                                                  I will wait for spring it's too cold right now :B

                                                                  Question: What are you getting for your new home? It's going to be tough downgrading from 800D and HTM1D
                                                                  I am serving 2 purposes. One is my wife has had it with the size of the system in the living room and the second is the extra cash will come in handy.

                                                                  I have downsized from:

                                                                  From McIntosh 2 x 1201's, Mc501 and Mc252 to............ 1 Mc205 (5x200watts)

                                                                  From 800D's, 804S', htm1D, ASW825 to........803S', 804S', Htm2D, ASW825

                                                                  From Meridian 861 to Denon AVP A1HDCI (this was a step sideways)

                                                                  and then created a second system in my office of

                                                                  Meridian 808i, McIntosh Mc252 and 804S' using a G5 As source server (and the Meridian for Cd's which I don't much use anymore) I will sell off the CD/Preamp/Dac meridian and just get a DAC ie: Bel Canto DAC3 or Cambridge Audio Dacmagic or something like that for using files off the computer.

                                                                  Not too shabby, very acceptable and freed up about $30k to boot

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                                                                  • wettou
                                                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                    • 3398

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                    I am serving 2 purposes. One is my wife has had it with the size of the system in the living room and the second is the extra cash will come in handy. I have downsized from:

                                                                    From McIntosh 2 x 1201's, Mc501 and Mc252 to.... 1 Mc205 (5x200watts)
                                                                    From 800D's, 804S', htm1D, ASW825 to....803S', 804S', Htm2D, ASW825
                                                                    From Meridian 861 to Denon AVP A1HDCI (this was a step sideways)

                                                                    Not too shabby, very acceptable and freed up about $30k to boot

                                                                    Yes not bad except going from D to S?

                                                                    But I can understand with using the cash for other things.. This hobby is a cash sink.....and the only ones who profits are dealers with obnoxious margins. :lol:
                                                                    Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                                                    • misterdoggy
                                                                      Super Senior Member
                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 1418

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by wettou
                                                                      Yes not bad except going from D to S?

                                                                      But I can understand with using the cash for other things.. This hobby is a cash sink.....and the only ones who profits are dealers with obnoxious margins. :lol:
                                                                      I actually was thinking about the 803d's but the guy at the store talked me out of them. He thought the 803s' were a better speaker, because the D's were a bit boomey in the bass. Too much bass. That the 803S was a great all round speaker.

                                                                      Anyhow, the most important was the center speaker as thats were all the voices are and I decided to stay with a D I got a great deal on a Demo €2100 new demo with guarantee.

                                                                      If you buy in the UK right now with Euros you can buy for like 40% of European pricing.

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                                                                      • jack d
                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                        • Sep 2006
                                                                        • 184

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by William
                                                                        So no one on this forum has an HTM1D?
                                                                        Sure. I have an HTM1D. Tremendous speaker. Excellent combination with my 802Ds. As noted, the thing is huge. It's very hard to move around for placement. I would make sure that when it arrives you have the delivery guys take it out of the box for you and place as close as possible to where you want it.

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                                                                        • misterdoggy
                                                                          Super Senior Member
                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                          • 1418

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I got one

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                                                                          • wettou
                                                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 3398

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                            I actually was thinking about the 803d's but the guy at the store talked me out of them. He thought the 803s' were a better speaker, because the D's were a bit boomey in the bass. Too much bass. That the 803S was a great all round speaker. Anyhow, the most important was the center speaker as thats were all the voices are and I decided to stay with a D I got a great deal on a Demo €2100 new demo with guarantee. If you buy in the UK right now with Euros you can buy for like 40% of European pricing.
                                                                            Very nice 40% off I would love that. I have 803S and was thinking of upgrading to 803D 8O Even if you set your speakers to small and have the crossover at 60HZ
                                                                            Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                                                            • wettou
                                                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                              • 3398

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                              I got one
                                                                              What a beast :B Just looking at it hurts my back
                                                                              Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                                                              • misterdoggy
                                                                                Super Senior Member
                                                                                • May 2005
                                                                                • 1418

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by wettou
                                                                                What a beast :B Just looking at it hurts my back
                                                                                I had Sciatic nerve damage after moving it ...

                                                                                No joke.. A week to recover and it was painful

                                                                                From now on only speakers I can lift alone :T

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                                                                                • misterdoggy
                                                                                  Super Senior Member
                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                  • 1418

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by wettou
                                                                                  Very nice 40% off I would love that. I have 803S and was thinking of upgrading to 803D 8O Even if you set your speakers to small and have the crossover at 60HZ
                                                                                  If you need an address in the UK I can PM you his phone. B&W just put up their UK prices by 20%, but there are still some stock you can buy at the old prices. That together with the weak Pound adds up to about 40% off Euro prices.

                                                                                  I just saw a Demo 802D sell for 5K£. Thats a good deal

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                                                                                  • wettou
                                                                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                                    • 3398

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                                    I had Sciatic nerve damage after moving it ...No joke.. A week to recover and it was painful. From now on only speakers I can lift alone :T
                                                                                    Sorry to hear that I would never try to lift that thing, some with 802D or 802N.
                                                                                    Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                                                                    • William
                                                                                      Senior Member
                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 194

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Just got an update. My HTM1-D made it into port. It's been loaded on a custom B&W bullet train and headed for Buffalo. It should only be a matter of months now before I get it. 8O



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                                                                                      • beden1
                                                                                        Super Senior Member
                                                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                                                        • 1676

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                                        I actually was thinking about the 803d's but the guy at the store talked me out of them. He thought the 803s' were a better speaker, because the D's were a bit boomey in the bass. Too much bass. That the 803S was a great all round speaker.
                                                                                        No boomey bass here with my 803D's. In fact, they have very balanced bass with clean attack.

                                                                                        That's the first time I ever heard this from anyone about the 803D's?

                                                                                        After hooking up my SSP-800, I now don't even think about upgrading to the 802Ds. My system sounds very balanced and wonderful. :B

                                                                                        If you get the 803S with the HTM2D, your front end will not blend well. I had the reverse going on with the 803D's and an HTM1 center. Now all blends perfectly with the addition of the HTM2D.
                                                                                        Last edited by beden1; 21 February 2009, 21:52 Saturday.

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                                                                                        • William
                                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                          • 194

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Just got word that it has shipped from Buffalo. Hopefully I may have it this weekend.

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