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  • sikoniko
    Super Senior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 2299

    #46
    Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
    Where's the smiley?

    I do reviewing for fun and because I am as crazy about these things as most people around here. The pay is small but appreciated. After taxes, it roughly covers my garage rent.

    Kal
    Thanks for the candidness. < - there is the smiley.

    I always assumed the reviews were your day job.
    I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round...

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    • wettou
      Ultra Senior Member
      • May 2006
      • 3389

      #47
      Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
      I do reviewing for fun and because I am as crazy about these things as most people around here. The pay is small but appreciated. After taxes, it roughly covers my garage rent. Kal
      So do you actually buy every piece you review or do you get them on loan! What is your specialty as an MD? :T
      Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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      • misterdoggy
        Super Senior Member
        • May 2005
        • 1418

        #48
        Come on Kal,

        There's gotta be some perks somewhere

        A Happy Manufacturer, a deal here or there, something please

        Don't disappoint me, you're a smart guy

        Let me believe in Perks ;x( ;x( ;x(

        Its the American Way (also here in france)

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        • misterdoggy
          Super Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 1418

          #49
          Originally posted by wettou
          To be content with what one has is the greatest and truest of riches." Cicero
          Wettou

          Cicero Obviously didn't have a Stereo like yours

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          • DM3000 Owner
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 475

            #50
            Originally posted by misterdoggy
            Is anyone driving the 800D's with 501's or less power ?
            I have powered S800's with Bryston 7B ST's (500/800 wpc) and Classe CAM 350 (350/700 wpc) and have not had a want for more power. These amps are arguable more powerful than the 501's because the speakers is a low ohm load and the 501 uses transformers.

            You should be fine but we all know that if you are asking the question you will be going with the 1201's. ops:

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            • DM3000 Owner
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 475

              #51
              Try a pair of these with your 800's. Look at the scale of these. I am so use to seeing pics of the 33H's, the 33's are almost as big as the 800's.

              Try to sneak a pair of these into yoru livign room. My wife didn't even notice the Classe / Bryston swap but she would notice this.
              Attached Files

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              • Kal Rubinson
                Super Senior Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 2109

                #52
                Originally posted by wettou
                So do you actually buy every piece you review or do you get them on loan!
                Everything is on loan for the review and returned thereafter. A few are kept a bit longer and a few are purchased.

                To answer misterdoggy, the perks are inherent in the process. :T

                What is your specialty as an MD? :T
                Not an MD. Ph.D. Assoc. Prof. of Physiology and Neuroscience.

                Kal
                Kal Rubinson
                _______________________________
                "Music in the Round"
                Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                • wettou
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 3389

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                  Everything is on loan for the review and returned thereafter. A few are kept a bit longer and a few are purchased. Not an MD. Ph.D. Assoc. Prof. of Physiology and Neuroscience. Kal
                  Nice, where do you teach?:T
                  Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                  • Kal Rubinson
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2109

                    #54
                    NYU School of Medicine
                    Kal Rubinson
                    _______________________________
                    "Music in the Round"
                    Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                    http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                    • Gump
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 522

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                      NYU School of Medicine
                      Holy Cow! Forget the stereo stuff, let's talk about these headaches I've been getting lately...

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                      • Kal Rubinson
                        Super Senior Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2109

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Gump
                        Holy Cow! Forget the stereo stuff, let's talk about these headaches I've been getting lately...
                        You need 800Ds. :W

                        Kal
                        Kal Rubinson
                        _______________________________
                        "Music in the Round"
                        Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                        http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                        • RebelMan
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 3139

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                          You need 800Ds. :W

                          Kal
                          Have a taste of your own medicine. :rofl:
                          "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                          • Kal Rubinson
                            Super Senior Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2109

                            #58
                            Originally posted by RebelMan
                            Have a taste of your own medicine. :rofl:
                            I don't have headaches. :dance:

                            Kal
                            Kal Rubinson
                            _______________________________
                            "Music in the Round"
                            Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                            http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                            • RebelMan
                              Ultra Senior Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 3139

                              #59
                              Touché! ;zx
                              "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                              • wettou
                                Ultra Senior Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 3389

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                                NYU School of Medicine
                                Cool great school, I love Manhattan a bit expensive
                                Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                • misterdoggy
                                  Super Senior Member
                                  • May 2005
                                  • 1418

                                  #61
                                  Originally posted by Kal Rubinson

                                  To answer misterdoggy, the perks are inherent in the process. :T

                                  Kal
                                  Kal

                                  Thanks for restoring my belief in the American Way :T

                                  Neuroscience... We have come a long way haven't we ? Didn't the Mayan's or Roman's or some ancient civilisation Drill holes in people's skulls to fix neurological disorders.

                                  Now we just get an upgrade and voila cured :lol: :lol:

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                                  • Guy
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 107

                                    #62
                                    Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                    Kal

                                    Thanks for restoring my belief in the American Way :T

                                    Neuroscience... We have come a long way haven't we ? Didn't the Mayan's or Roman's or some ancient civilisation Drill holes in people's skulls to fix neurological disorders.

                                    Now we just get an upgrade and voila cured :lol: :lol:
                                    I think upgrades are just a temporary fix to a reocurring problem but if we found a cure to this problem then we would suffer from another problem called boredom xx)

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                                    • misterdoggy
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • May 2005
                                      • 1418

                                      #63
                                      Originally posted by Guy
                                      I think upgrades are just a temporary fix to a reocurring problem but if we found a cure to this problem then we would suffer from another problem called boredom xx)
                                      The human race is complex and we need to keep up the same cycles of Neurotic behavior of modern man.

                                      By channeling these ancient instincts from our primitive ancestors upgrading from a smaller Cave to a larger cave, we now can upgrade from a smaller speaker to a larger speaker.

                                      Freud says its all about the size of ones (blank) and we are filling up what we are missing in other area's. The larger ones speaker the ............

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                                      • sg2
                                        Member
                                        • Sep 2006
                                        • 56

                                        #64
                                        Hi MrD,

                                        Congrats for the 800D's, this is a move I might consider myself someday.

                                        If you consider selling the Mc501's, I may be interested so let me know. Annecy is an hour away from Lyon

                                        Regards,
                                        --
                                        Stéphane
                                        Regards,
                                        --
                                        Stéphane

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                                        • Briz vegas
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 1199

                                          #65
                                          sq2, going by the comments above don't you mean commiserations on the size of your 800s !

                                          On a more serious note, my experience tells me that you can achieve alot sound wise with some judicious room treatment. Even if the wallet is almost bare there are things you can do to close the gap to the big boys. Or do I mean small boys. Whatever!
                                          Mac 8gb SSD Audirvana ->Weiss INT202 firewire interface ->Naim DAC & XPS2 DR->Conrad Johnson CT5 & LP70S-> Vivid B1s. Nordost Valhalla cables & resonance management. (Still waiting for Paul Hynes PS:M)
                                          Siamese :evil: :twisted:

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                                          • sg2
                                            Member
                                            • Sep 2006
                                            • 56

                                            #66
                                            Briz,

                                            I am not sq2 but sg2 My 800's are 802D's.

                                            Regards,
                                            --
                                            Stéphane
                                            Regards,
                                            --
                                            Stéphane

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                                            • misterdoggy
                                              Super Senior Member
                                              • May 2005
                                              • 1418

                                              #67
                                              Originally posted by sg2
                                              Hi MrD,

                                              Congrats for the 800D's, this is a move I might consider myself someday.

                                              If you consider selling the Mc501's, I may be interested so let me know. Annecy is an hour away from Lyon

                                              Regards,
                                              --
                                              Stéphane
                                              Stephane

                                              You are reading my mind PM me

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                                              • sg2
                                                Member
                                                • Sep 2006
                                                • 56

                                                #68
                                                PM'd
                                                Regards,
                                                --
                                                Stéphane

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                                                • DM3000 Owner
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                  • 475

                                                  #69
                                                  Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                  Stephane

                                                  You are reading my mind PM me
                                                  Wow, that was faster than expected. :T

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                                                  • beden1
                                                    Super Senior Member
                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                    • 1676

                                                    #70
                                                    Originally posted by DM3000 Owner
                                                    Wow, that was faster than expected. :T
                                                    T'is the season for bug bites!

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                                                    • SRT-10 Viper
                                                      Senior Member
                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 253

                                                      #71
                                                      Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                      Is anyone driving the 800D's with 501's or less power ?
                                                      I am running my 800Ds with Lamm 1.2 Reference, 110W and they sound much better than the CAM/350s I used prior with the 800Ds.

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                                                      • beden1
                                                        Super Senior Member
                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                        • 1676

                                                        #72
                                                        Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
                                                        I am running my 800Ds with Lamm 1.2 Reference, 110W and they sound much better than the CAM/350s I used prior with the 800Ds.
                                                        Lamm M1.2 Reference monoblock amplifiers
                                                        Retail: $21,690 (fall of 2007)

                                                        I would hope they sound great for this sizeable investment.

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                                                        • SRT-10 Viper
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                          • 253

                                                          #73
                                                          yes they do, even at half that price (bought used) : )

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                                                          • misterdoggy
                                                            Super Senior Member
                                                            • May 2005
                                                            • 1418

                                                            #74
                                                            Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
                                                            I am running my 800Ds with Lamm 1.2 Reference, 110W and they sound much better than the CAM/350s I used prior with the 800Ds.
                                                            Wow its not all about watts

                                                            B&W does say anything from 50 to 1000 and I guess 110 fits right in there.

                                                            Depends what kind of Watts. Lamm 1.2 Reference isn't exactly a lightweight.

                                                            ;x( ;x( ;x( ;x(

                                                            I have not decided by a long shot or even put them up for sale, but if I was to sell them for what I paid I might make the jump. My friends tell me if you're gonna buy the 1201 might as well be the 1.2kw but its also a question of space.

                                                            Like I keep saying I will have to move out as the Hifi is taking all the space and rent an apartment so I can come by and visit my system. :rofl:

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                                                            • SRT-10 Viper
                                                              Senior Member
                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                              • 253

                                                              #75
                                                              HTM1D is in the house and installed.... All I can say is I now have a wall of sound. This is so much better than the HTM2D, no comparison. I was up late watching movies grinning ear to ear... I'll post pictures later on your HTM1D post.

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                                                              • misterdoggy
                                                                Super Senior Member
                                                                • May 2005
                                                                • 1418

                                                                #76
                                                                Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
                                                                HTM1D is in the house and installed.... All I can say is I now have a wall of sound. This is so much better than the HTM2D, no comparison. I was up late watching movies grinning ear to ear... I'll post pictures later on your HTM1D post.
                                                                Viper,

                                                                Post pics when you can

                                                                I know what you must be feeling !! I was just there a few weeks ago

                                                                MD

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                                                                • SRT-10 Viper
                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                  • 253

                                                                  #77
                                                                  Here's a couple quick shots... MD I am running Meridian Trifield right now... WOW what a sound!




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                                                                  • misterdoggy
                                                                    Super Senior Member
                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                    • 1418

                                                                    #78
                                                                    they dont work

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                                                                    • hifiguymi
                                                                      Super Senior Member
                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                      • 1532

                                                                      #79
                                                                      Try these out.





                                                                      SRT-10 Viper gave me these links to his pictures.

                                                                      Eric

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                                                                      • misterdoggy
                                                                        Super Senior Member
                                                                        • May 2005
                                                                        • 1418

                                                                        #80
                                                                        Viper,

                                                                        Very nice clean looking setup. I don't see no wires. Htm1D height is great. Can't make out the Amps are they Older Mark Levinsons. Do you have surrounds too, if so where are the amps for the center and surrounds ?

                                                                        I will have exactly the same speaker setup My wife would probably prefer your look

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                                                                        • SRT-10 Viper
                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                          • 253

                                                                          #81
                                                                          MD, Amps in the picture are the Lamm ML1.2s. The Front and surrounds (802Ns) are driven by a Krell TAS that is in a matching cabinet to left of the left speaker.

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                                                                          • misterdoggy
                                                                            Super Senior Member
                                                                            • May 2005
                                                                            • 1418

                                                                            #82
                                                                            Oh Yeah you mentioned the Lamm ML 1.2s before. I hear they are some fantastic sounding Amps. They look like the older Mark Levinson models.

                                                                            TAS is a 5 channel Krell. I've had one. Is it up to the task of the htm1d ?

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                                                                            • beden1
                                                                              Super Senior Member
                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                              • 1676

                                                                              #83
                                                                              Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
                                                                              MD, Amps in the picture are the Lamm ML1.2s. The Front and surrounds (802Ns) are driven by a Krell TAS that is in a matching cabinet to left of the left speaker.
                                                                              That's a great looking setup. I'm sure it sounds wonderful.

                                                                              It looks like you have the same problem as I do with having to run the wires for the surrounds under the oriental rug. I tried to have an electrician run the wires up through the ceiling, but he couldn't due to my 24' ceilings and a blockage in the walls at 12'. My floor is marble over concrete (unfortunately no basements in Florida).

                                                                              I was wondering if anyone found a solution to better hide the wires running from the system to the rug (on the bare floor sections), and how to organize/flatten them running under the rug? Ideally, I wanted to run bi-wires to my surrounds, but these would pose greater problems with seeing them run to and then under the rug.

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                                                                              • Tony1
                                                                                Member
                                                                                • Sep 2007
                                                                                • 32

                                                                                #84
                                                                                Beden1

                                                                                I had the same issue. I bought a thick carpet pad and cut it to the size of the rug. Next I made another cut in the carpet pad from the system to the sofa and ran the rear surround wires between the carpet pad. My system and sofa is right up to the carpet and you can't see the wires.

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                                                                                • misterdoggy
                                                                                  Super Senior Member
                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                  • 1418

                                                                                  #85
                                                                                  Originally posted by beden1
                                                                                  That's a great looking setup. I'm sure it sounds wonderful.

                                                                                  It looks like you have the same problem as I do with having to run the wires for the surrounds under the oriental rug. I tried to have an electrician run the wires up through the ceiling, but he couldn't due to my 24' ceilings and a blockage in the walls at 12'. My floor is marble over concrete (unfortunately no basements in Florida).

                                                                                  I was wondering if anyone found a solution to better hide the wires running from the system to the rug (on the bare floor sections), and how to organize/flatten them running under the rug? Ideally, I wanted to run bi-wires to my surrounds, but these would pose greater problems with seeing them run to and then under the rug.
                                                                                  Beden,

                                                                                  You can use nordost wiring. Its flat wire and invisible under the carpet. At their prices you won't get top of the tip, but for surrounds it should be OK.

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                                                                                  • beden1
                                                                                    Super Senior Member
                                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                                    • 1676

                                                                                    #86
                                                                                    Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                                    Beden,

                                                                                    You can use nordost wiring. Its flat wire and invisible under the carpet. At their prices you won't get top of the tip, but for surrounds it should be OK.
                                                                                    Thanks for the suggestion. I went to their website, and unfortunately, I just can't see spending this kind of money on speaker wires, especially since I would need about 15' for each speaker.

                                                                                    Nordost Frey Interconnects and Speaker Cables
                                                                                    Prices: Interconnects: $979 USD per meter pair; speaker cables, $2719 per eight-foot shotgun pair.
                                                                                    Warranty: Lifetime.

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                                                                                    • beden1
                                                                                      Super Senior Member
                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                      • 1676

                                                                                      #87
                                                                                      Originally posted by Tony1
                                                                                      Beden1

                                                                                      I had the same issue. I bought a thick carpet pad and cut it to the size of the rug. Next I made another cut in the carpet pad from the system to the sofa and ran the rear surround wires between the carpet pad. My system and sofa is right up to the carpet and you can't see the wires.
                                                                                      Thanks Tony,

                                                                                      I have a fairly thick pad under the carpet now. I'll look at it to see if this might be a possible solution using the wires I have now.

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                                                                                      • SRT-10 Viper
                                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                                        • 253

                                                                                        #88
                                                                                        Originally posted by misterdoggy
                                                                                        Oh Yeah you mentioned the Lamm ML 1.2s before. I hear they are some fantastic sounding Amps. They look like the older Mark Levinson models.

                                                                                        TAS is a 5 channel Krell. I've had one. Is it up to the task of the htm1d ?

                                                                                        MD, I have the HTM1D bridged with the TAS for the extra power since I am only using it for 3 speakers.

                                                                                        On the wires, I have the speaker wires under the carpet and they can't be seen. The 2 wires that are new (and currently under the rug) are HDMI cables that go to my projector in the back for the room. I haven't figured how to best hide them yet. Next time I change out my carpet.

                                                                                        Watched the movie 300 today, still amazed at the wall of sound.

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                                                                                        • SRT-10 Viper
                                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                          • 253

                                                                                          #89
                                                                                          Beden1 go to rivercable's website. They have flat speaker wires that are much more reasonable.

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                                                                                          • DM3000 Owner
                                                                                            Senior Member
                                                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                                                            • 475

                                                                                            #90
                                                                                            Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
                                                                                            MD, I have the HTM1D bridged with the TAS for the extra power since I am only using it for 3 speakers.

                                                                                            On the wires, I have the speaker wires under the carpet and they can't be seen. The 2 wires that are new (and currently under the rug) are HDMI cables that go to my projector in the back for the room. I haven't figured how to best hide them yet. Next time I change out my carpet.

                                                                                            Watched the movie 300 today, still amazed at the wall of sound.
                                                                                            If possible run them behind your baseboards.

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