B&W MSRP (USA)

[zpanky]

Does anyone have the USA MSRP for the 800 series speaker line?

Also, Are there any Washington State dealers that people have had good success negotiating with?

Thanks

[Aldo]

Take a look here:

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=10031

[joetama]

I usually go here to look up prices...

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/

[hifiguymi]

B&W has raised prices across the board on all of their speakers in the US. Here are some of the "highlights"
800D $23,000.00pr
801D $18,000.00pr
802D $14,000.00pr
803D $ 9,000.00pr
803S $ 6,000.00pr
804S $ 4,500.00pr
805S $ 2,800.00pr
HTM1D $9,000.00
HTM2D $4,500.00
HTM3S $2,800.00
HTM4S $1,500.00
DS8S $3,300.00pr
SCMS $2,500.00pr
ASW825 $2,750.00
ASW855 $3,500.00

I'll post a full line retail price list on here when I can.

Eric

[joetama]

B&W has raised prices across the board on all of their speakers in the US. Here are some of the "highlights"
800D $23,000.00pr
801D $18,000.00pr
802D $14,000.00pr
803D $ 9,000.00pr
803S $ 6,000.00pr
804S $ 4,500.00pr
805S $ 2,800.00pr
HTM1D $9,000.00
HTM2D $4,500.00
HTM3S $2,800.00
HTM4S $1,500.00
DS8S $3,300.00pr
SCMS $2,500.00pr
ASW825 $2,750.00
ASW855 $3,500.00

I'll post a full line retail price list on here when I can.

Eric

WOW...

That is getting a bit high...

[wgriel]

WOW...

That is getting a bit high...

I wonder if that's a reflection of the weak US dollar?

It could be that other items are going to start costing more, too...

[joetama]

I wonder if that's a reflection of the weak US dollar?

It could be that other items are going to start costing more, too...

Probably...

This country isn't what is used to be... :roll:

[Kevin D]

I wonder if that's a reflection of the weak US dollar?

That's what the letter accompanying the price increase sheet said..

Kevin D.

[Ted]

B&W has raised prices across the board on all of their speakers in the US. Here are some of the "highlights"
800D $23,000.00pr
801D $18,000.00pr
802D $14,000.00pr
803D $ 9,000.00pr
803S $ 6,000.00pr
804S $ 4,500.00pr
805S $ 2,800.00pr
HTM1D $9,000.00
HTM2D $4,500.00
HTM3S $2,800.00
HTM4S $1,500.00
DS8S $3,300.00pr
SCMS $2,500.00pr
ASW825 $2,750.00
ASW855 $3,500.00

I'll post a full line retail price list on here when I can.

Eric

WOW...

That is getting a bit high...

The weirdest thing just happened... I read this post and instantly, I mean instantly my 703s sounded even better than the moment before... I can't believe it! :W

[joetama]

The weirdest thing just happened... I read this post and instantly, I mean instantly my 703s sounded even better than the moment before... I can't believe it! :W

I'll have to go listen to mine now... :rofl:


What is the new MSRP on the 703?

[Ted]

I'll have to go listen to mine now... :rofl:


What is the new MSRP on the 703?

Tama,

What did you think, did you hear it too, or am I crazy?? :crazy:

I'd be interested to know if they went up too...

[hifiguymi]

Here are the retails for the 700, CM, 600, and XT Series speakers.

700 Series

703 $3,300.00pr
704 $2,400.00pr
705 $1,650.00pr
DS7 $1,650.00pr
HTM7 $850.00
ASW700 $1,400.00
ASW750 $1,750.00

CM Series

CM1 $1,000.00pr
CM7 $2,000.00pr
CMC $650.00

XT Series

XT4 $2,750.00pr
XT2 $1,200.00pr
XTC $850.00
PV1 $1,600.00

600 Series

683 $1,500.00pr
684 $1,100.00pr
685 $650.00pr
686 $480.00pr
HTM61 $650.00
HTM62 $425.00
DS3 $850.00pr
ASW608 $500.00
ASW610 $650.00

How do your speakers sound now Ted?

Eric

[joetama]

Tama,

What did you think, did you hear it too, or am I crazy?? :crazy:

I'd be interested to know if they went up too...

Oh indeed I heard it... :B


Especially since I got mine for $2700... WOOT!

[wgriel]

Oh indeed I heard it... :B


Especially since I got mine for $2700... WOOT!

Heh, I noticed my 703s are sounding sweeter, too

Bill

[Ted]

Here are the retails for the 700, CM, 600, and XT Series speakers.

700 Series

703 $3,300.00pr
704 $2,400.00pr
705 $1,650.00pr
DS7 $1,650.00pr
HTM7 $850.00
ASW700 $1,400.00
ASW750 $1,750.00

CM Series

CM1 $1,000.00pr
CM7 $2,000.00pr
CMC $650.00

XT Series

XT4 $2,750.00pr
XT2 $1,200.00pr
XTC $850.00
PV1 $1,600.00

600 Series

683 $1,500.00pr
684 $1,100.00pr
685 $650.00pr
686 $480.00pr
HTM61 $650.00
HTM62 $425.00
DS3 $850.00pr
ASW608 $500.00
ASW610 $650.00

How do your speakers sound now Ted?

Eric

Eric,

All the better, thanks for asking. Boy I don't know if this is coincidence or not, but my CM-7 and CM-C just got better too! This is like winning the lottery or something, what a great weekend!! arty:

[Ted]

Oh indeed I heard it... :B


Especially since I got mine for $2700... WOOT!

No kidding, you gotta love your dealer! I'm glad to hear it wasn't just me! :T

[din2531]

Don't I feel glad! I just bought a new pair of 805s from an audiogon member just last week for $2000. They arrived factory sealed and when I called the local dealer for the stands, that's when I learnt about the price increase for the b&w series.

[joetama]

No kidding, you gotta love your dealer! I'm glad to hear it wasn't just me! :T

What do you mean?

[Race Car Driver]

My $300 Nautilus 802s sound immensely better all of the sudden......



:lol:

[Ted]

What do you mean?

Sorry, you're right that wasn't very clear. ops:

You've got to love working with your audio dealer and getting a deal, as I received a deal on mine as well.

I'm glad I wasn't "crazy" in thinking my 703's were sounding much better all the sudden.

That's all, my two comments sort of ran together there, sorry! Have a great night and keep enjoying those 703's! :T

[joetama]

Sorry, you're right that wasn't very clear. ops:

You've got to love working with your audio dealer and getting a deal, as I received a deal on mine as well.

I'm glad I wasn't "crazy" in thinking my 703's were sounding much better all the sudden.

That's all, my two comments sort of ran together there, sorry! Have a great night and keep enjoying those 703's! :T

I thought you were saying I over paid...

Maybe everywhere else in the US you can get dealers to lower the price, but in Cincinnati and surrounding area they like to tow that MSRP.

My dad got a killer deal, I don't recall exactly but it was less than $3500 on his 804S. All I got was a thanks for setting up the deal.. ops:

[Ted]

I thought you were saying I over paid...

Maybe everywhere else in the US you can get dealers to lower the price, but in Cincinnati and surrounding area they like to tow that MSRP.

My dad got a killer deal, I don't recall exactly but it was less than $3500 on his 804S. All I got was a thanks for setting up the deal.. ops:

Sorry about the miscommunication! I've always heard that anywhere between 10-20% is pretty standard (usually on closer to the 10% side), but I'm only going by what I've heard.

[atchudy]

My $300 Nautilus 802s sound immensely better all of the sudden......



:lol:

$300?.... How does that work?

[Hdale85]

Look in the super deals thread here somewhere on the forums. Pretty sure he posted about it but he got some 802's for 300 bucks.......makes me sick

23k just seems like a crazy amount of money for speakers...at least from B&W I mean I know they sound great...but 23,000 dollars great? Thats half 1/4 the price of a 4 year college education...get a lot more out of that! Or easily the price of a super sport bike. Or a great downpayment on a house. Or...hell around here you can buy a forclosed home for that!

[Rosso_Corsa]

Yes, price increases reflect the state of the US Dollar.

Canadian prices have DROPPED instead. But we are still paying more.

For example, 803D is 9k in US now. It is 10k in Canada, with Canadian dollar being stronger right now, which is a double whammy. It used to be $11k in Canada!

I bought my 803D just before the price change, and I paid OLD US price. This is why I bought my 803Ds at the time I did (last month). I'm glad I did!

[jack667]

You still have it cheaper than the UK, and thats where the damn company is based. Here are US retail prices, with UK retail prices, then currency conversions (XE.com).

800D $23,000.00pr (UK Price: £13,000 / $26,600)
801D $18,000.00pr (UK Price: £10,500 / $21,500)
802D $14,000.00pr (UK Price £8,000 / $16,390)
803D $ 9,000.00pr (UK Price: £5,500 / $11,270)
803S $ 6,000.00pr (UK Price: £3,800 / $7,785)
804S $ 4,500.00pr (UK Price: £2,700 / $5,530)
805S $ 2,800.00pr (UK Price: £1,600 / $3280)

... and so on

[aquaanox]

interesting, i just paid $2450 for my XT4's last week. maybe the prices havent gone in effect yet.

[greenhorn]

My Dealer

Here are the prices from my local dealer, looks like they've gone up 5% - 10% :E . CM-1 were $900 when I got mine a while back, I think the CM-7's were $1800, I'd have to check on that. They do give 10% (I think it is 10%) regular customer discount.

From B & W Bowers & Wilkins Loudspeakers:

M-1 Mini Theatre Speakers $450.00/pair
683 Floorstanding Speakers $1,500.00/pair
684 Floorstanding Speakers $1,100.00/pair
685 Bookshelf Speakers $650.00/pair
686 Bookshelf Speakers $480.00/pair
HTM61 Center Channel Speaker $650.00
DM604 S3 Floorstanding Speakers $1,400.00/pair
DM601 S3 Bookshelf Speakers $450.00/pair
LCR600 S3 Center Channel Speaker $500.00
XT4 Floorstanding Speakers $2,650.00/pair
XT2 Compact Speakers $1,200.00/pair
XTC Center Channel Speaker $850.00
CM1 Bookshelf Speakers $1,000.00/pair
CMC Center Speaker $650.00
CM7 Floorstanding Speakers $2,000.00/pair
705 Bookshelf Speakers $1,650.00/pair
704 Floorstanding Speakers $2,400.00/pair
703 Floorstanding Speakers $3,300.00/pair
HTM 7 Center Speaker $850.00
804S Floorstanding Speakers $4,500.00/pair
HTM3S Center Speaker $2,800.00
HTM4S Center Speaker $1,500.00
ASW-750 Active Subwoofer $1,750.00
ASW-700 Active Subwoofer $1,400.00
ASW-675 Active Subwoofer $1,000.00
ASW-610 Active Subwoofer $650.00
ASW-608 Active Subwoofer $500.00

[scanido]

Man, i'm kicking myself for not getting the SCMS while i had a chance!

Are these prices effective now?

[audioqueso]

No price changes in Japan yet. :T

[hifiguymi]

Man, i'm kicking myself for not getting the SCMS while i had a chance!

Are these prices effective now?

Yes. It happened November 1st.

Eric

[hifiguymi]

No price changes in Japan yet. :T

I don't know if it will happen in Japan. The price increases are because of the US dollar being so weak right now.

Eric

[skuzzyb]

This includes VAT

You still have it cheaper than the UK, and thats where the damn company is based. Here are US retail prices, with UK retail prices, then currency conversions (XE.com).

800D $23,000.00pr (UK Price: £13,000 / $26,600)
801D $18,000.00pr (UK Price: £10,500 / $21,500)
802D $14,000.00pr (UK Price £8,000 / $16,390)
803D $ 9,000.00pr (UK Price: £5,500 / $11,270)
803S $ 6,000.00pr (UK Price: £3,800 / $7,785)
804S $ 4,500.00pr (UK Price: £2,700 / $5,530)
805S $ 2,800.00pr (UK Price: £1,600 / $3280)

... and so on

Yes, but the UK prices include VAT while the US prices do not include sales taxes which range from 0% in Oregon I believe to over 8.5% in some states so net , net is very close even with the weak North American rupee, oops, I mean the US dollar. Unless of course you buy it over the internet (if you can) or ship it out of state, then sales taxes may not apply, but you are left with the shipping costs.

[Indytown]

Look in the super deals thread here somewhere on the forums. Pretty sure he posted about it but he got some 802's for 300 bucks.......makes me sick

23k just seems like a crazy amount of money for speakers...at least from B&W I mean I know they sound great...but 23,000 dollars great? Thats half 1/4 the price of a 4 year college education...get a lot more out of that! Or easily the price of a super sport bike. Or a great downpayment on a house. Or...hell around here you can buy a forclosed home for that!

yes, yes, yes and yes. :B

[Briz vegas]

We will obviously never see you "mob of whingers" in Australia. We just sell our unwanted organs, smile and put in our 800 series orders. I think it is 89 US cents to the Aussie dollar.

http://www.tivolihifi.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=&products_id=105

[Rosso_Corsa]

No price changes in Japan yet. :T

What are Japanese prices like? I hear they are cheaper in Japan, even cheaper than in the U.S.

Give an example? Say 802D and 803D?

[Rosso_Corsa]

I am hearing of an impending U.S. price increase as of January 2008.

Yes, another increase? Is this true?

Hifiguymi?

[Kevin D]

No other price increase for the US is scheduled right now (just talked to my rep today).

Kevin D.

[hifiguymi]

Kevin is right, there isn't a second one coming. One is enough!!

Eric

[Rosso_Corsa]

Thanks, guys!

[dan87951]

B&W prices expecially for the 800 series have gotten pretty laughable over the years. I guess they would rather sell smaller quanties at a higher price. The N802's were 8k a pair back in 2003-2004 new and when the new diamond series came out they boosted up $4k because of a new tweeter and woofer design. Now they boosted up another $2k. LOL no thanks! Thats why I love audiogon. Used 802D's can be had for $8000 on there.

[cug]

B&W prices expecially for the 800 series have gotten pretty laughable over the years. I guess they would rather sell smaller quanties at a higher price. The N802's were 8k a pair back in 2003-2004 new and when the new diamond series came out they boosted up $4k because of a new tweeter and woofer design. Now they boosted up another $2k. LOL no thanks! Thats why I love audiogon. Used 802D's can be had for $8000 on there.

At least Canadian prices are more on par with the US prices now ... Not that I like the high prices, but I hated that they were so much cheaper a couple of miles in the south ...

[nikos]

in-wall prices

can someone please provide the in-wall and outdoor speaker pricing?

if possible the old pricing and then the new.

as to have a reference to the old models for used offerings now and then...

Im having a real hard time locating these online.

thanks,

nikos

[sikoniko]

B&W prices expecially for the 800 series have gotten pretty laughable over the years. I guess they would rather sell smaller quanties at a higher price. The N802's were 8k a pair back in 2003-2004 new and when the new diamond series came out they boosted up $4k because of a new tweeter and woofer design. Now they boosted up another $2k. LOL no thanks! Thats why I love audiogon. Used 802D's can be had for $8000 on there.

The matrix 802's used to sell for $2k each... so there was a big jump between that and the nautilus line.

I've tried to work backwards on the pricing to figure it out.

$14k for 802d:
I am guessing dealer cost around $6k-$7k
Import and shipping: $500-$1k
That means b&w gets rougly $5k-$6k for an 802d.
I estimate their costs somewhere around half that: $3k.

So, for every pair of 802d they sell at 14k$, I am guessing their profit is only around $3k...and the dealers make around $6k, excluding overhead costs of the sale.

[dan87951]

Yes but the matrix and nautilus line are different speakers completely where the N802 and 802D are not. For the 802D's they added a new tweeter and woofer design and jacked it up $4k. lol

The matrix 802's used to sell for $2k each... so there was a big jump between that and the nautilus line.

I've tried to work backwards on the pricing to figure it out.

$14k for 802d:
I am guessing dealer cost around $6k-$7k
Import and shipping: $500-$1k
That means b&w gets rougly $5k-$6k for an 802d.
I estimate their costs somewhere around half that: $3k.

So, for every pair of 802d they sell at 14k$, I am guessing their profit is only around $3k...and the dealers make around $6k, excluding overhead costs of the sale.