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  • yourtoys7
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 169

    #1

    The 804S are singing w. Bryston 4B-SST...

    I did find for good deal localy for Bryston 4B-SST, couple of hours ago recieved and my 804S are singing like never thought they would :B , I just love it.
    They are little on the bright side, but still love it, WOW. I'm going back to enjoy them little more bofor my 1year old son goes to bed
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  • KRC
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 166

    #2
    I read the thread on power for the 804's and am interested in your opinions before a purchase. I am running an Arcam 200 receiver (75x5)....LCR 60, ASW 600 and 600 S3 for surrounds. At a local dealer there is a real good deal for a pair of 804's. From the previous thread on this subject, some were writing like the amp would blow being run on this speaker. What is with this..just a mismatch....would it work just not loud? Would a quality speaker like this be a waste of money for my other equipment....just pick up a pair of 703's??

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    • audioqueso
      Super Senior Member
      • Nov 2004
      • 1933

      #3
      Glad to hear a good review from a B&W owner. I'm actually looking to sell my Parasound and get a used Bryston 3B-ST or 5B-ST for my N805s.
      B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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      • joetama
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 786

        #4
        Wow.... That kid must be lucky... LOL...
        -Joe

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        • sikoniko
          Super Senior Member
          • Aug 2003
          • 2299

          #5
          Originally posted by yourtoys7
          I did find for good deal localy for Bryston 4B-SST, couple of hours ago recieved and my 804S are singing like never thought they would :B , I just love it.
          They are little on the bright side, but still love it, WOW. I'm going back to enjoy them little more bofor my 1year old son goes to bed
          I think the brightness you are experiencing might be characteristic of the 804s's. I know I always felt my N804's were rather bright. They just aren't as full as their bigger bro's.
          I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round...

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          • rmht
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 15

            #6
            I have had a 5BST running my N804's and HTM1 and a 3BST running my SCM1's and could not be happier. Good choice, the brightness might be tamed with placement or treatments....they are bright but not too much...

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            • Briz vegas
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 1199

              #7
              804s is not bright, I could accept brilliant at a stretch, but not bright.

              I love the highs on my 804s as they are so smooth and natural. Its all a matter of getting the right electronics to achieve the sound you are after, and many say that cables can also make a big difference to the highs as well - I am running Nordost blue heaven and some slightly older DH Labs Silver Sonic interconnects (just for info - not providing an opinion on their characteristics). Even running through my Marantz receiver the 804 is not what I would call bright, when my pre/power is back on line (amp is in the shop) they are a wonderfully natural sounding speaker.

              Oh, and did I mention that they don't sound the slightest bit bright. I did, good!!!
              Mac 8gb SSD Audirvana ->Weiss INT202 firewire interface ->Naim DAC & XPS2 DR->Conrad Johnson CT5 & LP70S-> Vivid B1s. Nordost Valhalla cables & resonance management. (Still waiting for Paul Hynes PS:M)
              Siamese :evil: :twisted:

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              • sikoniko
                Super Senior Member
                • Aug 2003
                • 2299

                #8
                Originally posted by Briz vegas
                804s is not bright, I could accept brilliant at a stretch, but not bright.
                listen to it and then compare it to a pair of 802's. You'll see what I mean. I am not saying there is anything wrong with the 804s. but, everyone has their own opinion...
                I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round...

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                • audioqueso
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 1933

                  #9
                  Or it could be the Bryston. I've only listened to it a few times, but from the reviews I've read on audioreview, most owners say that if you choose to use a Bryston amp, you should match it to a warmer sounding pre-amp and source or it will seem bright. I'm in the market for a Bryston, so lately I've been reading a lot of reviews on audioreview.com.
                  B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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                  • yourtoys7
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 169

                    #10
                    Thanks guys, I'm really, really happy the more I listen. When I said little bright, maybe not too properly worded. When aditioning the 804S before purchase, they werer going throught Pathos Classic amp. and I really liked how they made 804S sound.
                    Bryston maybe little on bright side (I do mean little), but I like it more than through Pathos! Here is why: the highs are more defined and lots more clear, the sound stage seams more defined/ acurate. The sound more in front of you, wright between the speakers, compare to like come from behind the speakers.
                    I do want to play around with placemant and finding tilting speakers up little gives you more plasent sound, maybe not as forward.
                    Some day the 802 will be added to the setup (I'm stoping every day at thrift store :B
                    Sony AT 150" 16x9 screen
                    PSB T6,
                    Velodyne SPL 1000R
                    Rotel RSX-1057
                    Rotel RB-1070
                    OPPO 103
                    Apple TV
                    [

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                    • Briz vegas
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1199

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sikoniko
                      listen to it and then compare it to a pair of 802's. You'll see what I mean. I am not saying there is anything wrong with the 804s. but, everyone has their own opinion...
                      Ah, very true grasshopper, but why should the frog hop to a bigger lilly if he could be happy on his current one after a little finessing. :B It was the "characteristic of the speaker" that I was reacting to. Also the N804 and 804s are different in tweeter and crossover characteristics which means different high frequency performance/prominence.

                      A little off track, I walked into a way too small demo room where a pair of 802Ds were playing only a couple of weeks ago. Very ordinary sound with too much bass. I was tempted to suggest that they knock out the wall between the two demo rooms so the things could breath a little. There will not be too many customers buying 802D from that shop if they can't make the things sound amazing.
                      Mac 8gb SSD Audirvana ->Weiss INT202 firewire interface ->Naim DAC & XPS2 DR->Conrad Johnson CT5 & LP70S-> Vivid B1s. Nordost Valhalla cables & resonance management. (Still waiting for Paul Hynes PS:M)
                      Siamese :evil: :twisted:

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                      • chinets
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 855

                        #12
                        I hear you loud and clear!!!
                        A Happy camper!!!!!!!!! God Bless!!
                        Enjoy your precious set-up with a toast!!!
                        CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!
                        Cheers!!!

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                        • Briz vegas
                          Super Senior Member
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1199

                          #13
                          A simple "you are right and I am unworthy" would have done nicely.

                          Of course I am happy, I just spent a fortune on 2 upgrades in as many months. IfI want to get any more hits I will have to start holding up service stations in my spare time - and I would rather spend that time listening to CDs as I am now.

                          "hmmm, precious, the preciouses is mine" :twisted: (apologies to LOTR fans, my golum in not that good, in fact I'm not even sure how to spell golllum)

                          :twisted: ;x( ;x( ;x( ;x( ;x(
                          Mac 8gb SSD Audirvana ->Weiss INT202 firewire interface ->Naim DAC & XPS2 DR->Conrad Johnson CT5 & LP70S-> Vivid B1s. Nordost Valhalla cables & resonance management. (Still waiting for Paul Hynes PS:M)
                          Siamese :evil: :twisted:

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                          • sikoniko
                            Super Senior Member
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2299

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Briz vegas
                            Ah, very true grasshopper, but why should the frog hop to a bigger lilly if he could be happy on his current one after a little finessing. :B It was the "characteristic of the speaker" that I was reacting to. Also the N804 and 804s are different in tweeter and crossover characteristics which means different high frequency performance/prominence.
                            I have demo'd all of the new series speakers, and my opinion is still the same. But, its my opinion, and I was just sharing it. My opinion is, that the 804 line is bright. It doesnt have the bottom end to balance it out. You may disagree. That is fine.

                            The 804 is a great speaker, enjoy it!
                            I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round...

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                            • Briz vegas
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1199

                              #15
                              Fair enough!

                              I pick up my power amp from the service dude tomorrow so I will certainly take your advice on the enjoyment thing. Barely played any CDs this week cos the sound was just not doing it for me.
                              Mac 8gb SSD Audirvana ->Weiss INT202 firewire interface ->Naim DAC & XPS2 DR->Conrad Johnson CT5 & LP70S-> Vivid B1s. Nordost Valhalla cables & resonance management. (Still waiting for Paul Hynes PS:M)
                              Siamese :evil: :twisted:

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                              • Pedro
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 303

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sikoniko
                                listen to it and then compare it to a pair of 802's. You'll see what I mean. I am not saying there is anything wrong with the 804s. but, everyone has their own opinion...
                                804S could be personally bright for you. But have auditioned it with 703 model, and the 804S sounds much more smooth than 703 that was little terrific at the top ends. For me the top end of 804S is enough :T

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