Pictures of your B&W Set-up

[Prof]

@FredFishBelgium - amazing. The speakers are beautiful works of art. I could only wish...

@iSaint - I wish my room was as aesthetically pleasing as yours. Lovely set up.

I'm interested to know everyone's opinion re: 800di's and amplification.

My Nemo powerblocks have four outputs each (two terminal pairs per amp). I could easily run bi-cable, but I have chosen biwire, so one pair of terminals on each amp will not be used. I could also bi-amp if I wanted to be silly and buy another pair of Nemo's which I think would be a stupid waste of money and would not make any difference whatsoever.

What do others do - single cable? Bi-wire? Bi-cable? or Bi-amp (and therefore Bi-cable)?

Does the crossover in the B&W speakers "recognize" when they are bi-wired or bi-cable? I doubt it. And therefore I guess it won't make a difference.

I emailed Electrocompaniet and asked them what is the recommended strategy and got a stupid reply (might be a stupid question) -they just said biwire don't worry about it. If so, why do they put four terminals on each amp!!!!

I haven't asked B&W what they "recommend". I know this is a controversial area, but what do others do? Do B&W have a recommended strategy

[hardy]

@FredFishBelgium - amazing. Superb Setup.
@iSaint - Great Setup

First I had 2 CA-M400 and 802D with single wire.
After that I had 2 CA-M400 802D with bi-wire
Then I had 4 CA-M400 and 800Di in bi amping
The next step was 2 CA-M600 and 800Di with bi cable
and my last step was 4 CA-M600 with 800Di in bi-Amping.

every step was a kind of great evolution. ;x(
Now I am very satisfied with my setup.

Hardy

[ninja12]

Regards

iSaint

Swwweeeeeeetttttttt!!!!!!!! :T :T :T

[stuofsci02]

@FredFishBelgium - amazing. The speakers are beautiful works of art. I could only wish...

@iSaint - I wish my room was as aesthetically pleasing as yours. Lovely set up.

I'm interested to know everyone's opinion re: 800di's and amplification.

My Nemo powerblocks have four outputs each (two terminal pairs per amp). I could easily run bi-cable, but I have chosen biwire, so one pair of terminals on each amp will not be used. I could also bi-amp if I wanted to be silly and buy another pair of Nemo's which I think would be a stupid waste of money and would not make any difference whatsoever.

What do others do - single cable? Bi-wire? Bi-cable? or Bi-amp (and therefore Bi-cable)?

Does the crossover in the B&W speakers "recognize" when they are bi-wired or bi-cable? I doubt it. And therefore I guess it won't make a difference.

I emailed Electrocompaniet and asked them what is the recommended strategy and got a stupid reply (might be a stupid question) -they just said biwire don't worry about it. If so, why do they put four terminals on each amp!!!!

I haven't asked B&W what they "recommend". I know this is a controversial area, but what do others do? Do B&W have a recommended strategy

If you opened your amp you might find that the terminals are simply jumped on the inside. In that case "biwire" = "bicable". But then again it is my opinion that non of it makes a difference anyways.

[wettou]

Regards

iSaint

Very nice, they look great in Piano black but not for me a bit too shiny with Front projection

You might want get rid of the coffee table as the glass makes the sound bounce Try it without the coffee table and you will see:B

[iSaint]

Very nice, they look great in Piano black but not for me a bit too shiny with Front projection

You might want get rid of the coffee table as the glass makes the sound bounce Try it without the coffee table and you will see:B

Thanks! I'm using a carpet over the table when there is serious listening - that works well

iSaint

[iSaint]

Swwweeeeeeetttttttt!!!!!!!! :T :T :T

Thanks

iSaint

[DeepEndX]

Nice design and the speakers match perfectly to the house. My house is also modern design. When I do some serious listening, I will put some pillows behind my speakers to reduce boom/bounce effect.

[cwall99]

Gorgeous!!! ;x(

[FredfishBelgium]

look at this link...

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=38648

Fred ;^)

[BWLover]

So...I moved to Victoria BC. Here is my new set up













Just some quick shots on my Nikon D700 (if anyone cares lol) I still need to hide the wires from the tv and move the Shynyata power outlet over to the right. I have the acoustic panel on the right velcro'd to the edge of the wall. Its in the same position as the left one but I can take it down when I'm not seriously listening as the curtains provide enough dampening for tv and such. And yes it does drive me nuts that my power conditioner is not silver like its brothers and sisters. My CD player is sitting on a piece of slate (for weight) thats on Solid Tech Feet of Silence vibration absorption

And as you can see its almost identical as my previous set up in Edmonton AB

[SPACEMANRICK]

Nice setup and great shots from your camera....I also love the view from your balcony :T

[Mikael]

Hi
nice and clean looking setup, bet it sounds as good as it looks.

[audioqueso]

BWLover,

Man.. great looking room and setup! Nice view too!
I like how your room treatment match your coffee table almost perfectly.
Congrats!

[htsteve]

BWLover,

Very nice and clean setup!

[leej]

That window presents some reflection and light to deal with, but that view makes it worth it. Nice room!

[BWLover]

Thank you very much guys. Im on the 18th floor its an awesome view

That window presents some reflection and light to deal with, but that view makes it worth it. Nice room!

The side reflection point has acoustic paneling as you can see which cuts the reflections dramatically from the right speaker off the window. I listen with the curtains closed and it actually is pretty dampened. I'd like to get darker and heavier curtains soon though

I forgot to take a photo with the grills on I only take them off for serious listening. I think they look nice and streamlined with them on.

[Prof]

The poor people below you!!!!

Love your setup. I have a lot of windows too, see prior post. What are the differences you notice with/without your sound panels. Is it very obvious or subtle (I'm considering something similar but my system sounds so good I can't imagine it any better).

Bill

[sg2]

Hi BWLover,

Very clean & nice setup !

Where do those acoustic panels come from ?

[BWLover]

The poor people below you!!!!

Love your setup. I have a lot of windows too, see prior post. What are the differences you notice with/without your sound panels. Is it very obvious or subtle (I'm considering something similar but my system sounds so good I can't imagine it any better).

Bill

I'm actually not completely done the acoustic treatment yet.

When I first bought them I noticed a huge difference. I started with the first refection points (beside the speakers) then to the ceiling then the back/front wall. I noticed the biggest difference with the first reflection points. I was in a basement when I got the panels so no windows. It definitely makes a huge difference on the accuracy of the sound stage that's for sure. Take a look at there website. There is a lot of diagrams showing you what happens to the sound in a room with no treatment. I've always herd and said that half your stereo is your room. The most expensive stereo in the world is still going to sound like shit in a shit room. I've been in stereo shops that have blown thru $50 000 on room treatment alone for a $350 000 stereo. The treatment I have is also pretty affordable as well. But ya, if anything take care of the first reflection points.

And I am blessed. My building being a high rise is make of concrete. So my neighbors dont really hear much. Also I'm in a corner suit so there is nothing on the other side of the wall that the stereo is on.

Hi BWLover,

Very clean & nice setup !

Where do those acoustic panels come from ?

Here is there website

http://www.primacoustic.com/

[bigburner]

I am going to compare my Chord Amp (130 wpc) against the UPA-2 (125 wpc). At 1/10th the price I am interested to see how it does.

Hi Stuart,

How did it do?

Nigel.

[nirvana_1911]

Hi Stuart,

How did it do?

Nigel.

Surprisingly well from my understanding.

[stuofsci02]

I haven't got around to doing it yet... Just no time I am afraid.. I will still do it at somepoint.

[dukester]

Finally got around to taking some shots of my set-up, let me know what you think. I haven't messed with sub placement, and I have a feeling it's a bit cramped in the corner but it sounds/feels good so i'll keep it there for now. I've got some toe-in, mains are 8.5' apart, 11' fm sweet spot, and 1.5' from rear wall. The shutters do a good job of deflection, and reflection on left wall is minimal thanks to the fireplace. My great room is not ideal and is 14Lx15Wx20H, so acoustic treatments would result in my wife killing me. The dining room opens up to the right, not sure if any probs there. There's a quite a bit of air to move for my sub but it does it's job and then some. For HT, the width of my cabinet seems to make my 52" LCD look small but at night its fine (although that upgrade is high on my list). Thanks for any feedback

[htsteve]

dukester,

Sweet setup. Looks excellent. And I imagine it sounds very good.

What is your sub?

[dukester]

dukester,

Sweet setup. Looks excellent. And I imagine it sounds very good.

What is your sub?

Thanks Steve. Its a REL G1.

[scanido]

Finally got around to taking some shots of my set-up, let me know what you think. I haven't messed with sub placement, and I have a feeling it's a bit cramped in the corner but it sounds/feels good so i'll keep it there for now. I've got some toe-in, mains are 8.5' apart, 11' fm sweet spot, and 1.5' from rear wall. The shutters do a good job of deflection, and reflection on left wall is minimal thanks to the fireplace. My great room is not ideal and is 14Lx15Wx20H, so acoustic treatments would result in my wife killing me. The dining room opens up to the right, not sure if any probs there. There's a quite a bit of air to move for my sub but it does it's job and then some. For HT, the width of my cabinet seems to make my 52" LCD look small but at night its fine (although that upgrade is high on my list). Thanks for any feedback

Awesome setup! I've got the same cabinet and love it!

How are you liking the MC302 on the 803di?

[dukester]

Awesome setup! I've got the same cabinet and love it!

How are you liking the MC302 on the 803di?

Thanks. The cabinet is solid...and very effective at keeping toddler hands at bay. Surprised by how much space the door latches take up...but other than that, pretty sweet.

Sidenote: I installed one active cooling rear panel but saved tons by installing the CabCool 802 Lite Dual 80mm Fan Cooling Kit ($30 on Amazon) on one other panel...in case you were considering.

I went from using my T785/150 wpc, to the Mac's 300. At first the difference weren't as obvious. Then after about 200hrs of break in, I switched back to the T785...differences were blatant. The Mac enhanced the presence of every instrument as well as detail; soundstage grew and became more liquid and slightly raised. Biggest difference is in the bass...much quicker/more authority...like going from the mezzanine to front and center, if that makes any sense.

[Nuz1]

Would you share your impressions of the REL G1? I'm considering adding a sub and have been looking at the G1 and JL Fathoms. Did you happen to do any comparison listening between the two?

[dukester]

Would you share your impressions of the REL G1? I'm considering adding a sub and have been looking at the G1 and JL Fathoms. Did you happen to do any comparison listening between the two?

I did do a comparison with the JL 113 but unfortunately not in the same dealership...which made it difficult to discern the differences. Both were very, very good subs and to be honest, as far as sound, was a toss up for me. Very DEEP, yet quick bass. The main reason I went with the REL is it seemed more musical to me (I mainly listen to 2 ch music)...connections are made directly to the speaker binding posts of the amp. So in a sense, it's more an extension of my mains (seamless), never drawing attention to itself. It has added another dimension to my music, yet rattles the floors in HT mode (the JL brought the pain too). It has a remote (used mostly for HT) which makes on the fly adjustments pain free but unfortunately is the only method of adjustment (no remote, no adjustments). My plan is to eventually have multiple subs and the G1 can be daisy chained, making multiple pre/pro or rcvr sub-outs a non-issue. However, a single G1 is more than enough for me, for now. In the end, it came down to music...and for me, the REL seemed best suited for it. Can't go wrong with either but if music is first, recommend the G1.

[htsteve]

Nuz1,

First of all, welcome to the forum! :T

The best thing to do is to demo the two subs in the same environment, if possible. Whether at home or at a dealer.


I have a Fathom F112. It's the best sub I've ever had. Very musical to me and quite visceral when called for.


Hope this helps

[jericho]

I've got a pair of new DB-1's!!! Just great

[Nuz1]

Thanks for the welcomes and the thoughts on both subs. I know this is supposed to be a picture thread, so I'll keep my reply brief.

I've been lurking for a while and read great things about both brands. Unfortunately, there are no dealers close to me that carry either brand--let along both. So I've been trying to read up before I make a trip to listen to them.

I have a connection to REL and can get a great price, but was leaning towards JL...at least until I read about the G1. Unfortunately, it's new enough I haven't found many actual G1 owners. Like Dukester, mine would go in a 2 channel set-up for now. And I think the G1 would be a great match. But I'm also starting to stockpile gear for a home theater set-up. In fact, my 703s are packed up and waiting for theater duty. I'm planning to partner them with CMs for center and surround. So I'll post pictures when I get it assembled.

Thanks again for your replies.

[Miketr75]

Gone down to 2 channel. Love it!

Hi,
May I ask ? what happened to to your Marantz AV8003 and MM8003 ? I have the same Marantz set up.
Thanks
Mike

[btf1980]

Hi,
May I ask ? what happened to to your Marantz AV8003 and MM8003 ? I have the same Marantz set up.
Thanks
Mike

I went back down to stereo. I mostly listen to music. If I watch a movie twice a month, then that's a busy month.

[Miketr75]

I went back down to stereo. I mostly listen to music. If I watch a movie twice a month, then that's a busy month.

Do you still have the AV8003 and MM8003 ?

[btf1980]

Do you still have the AV8003 and MM8003 ?

The MM8003 has been sold. I use the AV8003 for HDMI switching for video games and the occasional blu-ray movie.

[Miketr75]

Thanks. btf1980
I got the BAT VK-6200 and sold my MM8003 too. I use the AV8003 for movies and music videos, but 2 channel music with the AV8003 not so great. I'm thinking about to sell the AV8003 and get some Processor that would work great with the BAT-VK6200 for movies and 2 channels music. I'm looking at the McIntosh MX120 and MX136, can't afford for the MX150.
My system is: 802D Front, HTM2D center, 804S back with Marantz AV-8003 processor and BAT VK-6200 AMP
Any suggestion is greatly appreciate it .
Thanks
Mike

[aarsoe]

Why not just keep the AV8003 and get a decent two channel pre-amp with home theater pass-through? Much easier to find at a decent price compared to a good sounding pre/processor.

[Miketr75]

Why not just keep the AV8003 and get a decent two channel pre-amp with home theater pass-through? Much easier to find at a decent price compared to a good sounding pre/processor.

Yes good point, I was thinking the same thing.
I heard great reviews about the Emotiva's gears and check out their web site. I was reading about their two channels preamp, the USP-1 was going to full the trigger to try it out but still think that my 802D may be still hunger for more power ( my BAT VK-6200 is a 5 channels at 200w per). Therefor I was debated between getting the USP-1 preamp or getting another 2 channels amp to bi-amp for the 802D because the Marantz AV8003 has the bi-amp option (speaker C switch) and I've tried with the MM8003 bi-amp running 5.1 channel, sounded great with more dynamic.
I called Emotiva, talked to Vincent. He suggested that I should go with my second option with additional two channels amp, the XPA-2.
Any suggestion is greatly appreciate it .

Thanks
Mike

[Miketr75]

I will move my CM7 down from the living room upstairs for the time being. I am looking for a set of used 805s.

How are the Emotiva Ultra 12 Subs ? Thanks for your feedback. I'm thinking to get two of them to replace my B&W ASW650

Mike

[stuofsci02]

I think the Ultra 12s are definately a big bang for the buck.. I got them when they first came out and were on sale.. I think I got them for $369 each..

I prefer two subs and with the ultra 12 it is easy to afford. I cannot compare them in my system to any other subs...

[Miketr75]

I think the Ultra 12s are definately a big bang for the buck.. I got them when they first came out and were on sale.. I think I got them for $369 each..

I prefer two subs and with the ultra 12 it is easy to afford. I cannot compare them in my system to any other subs...

Thanks for your reply. Good pick, you have a big HT room there so running two subs is the best solution and the Ultra 12 definitely best bang for the buck. I just placed an order for the XPA-2 to bi-amp with the BAT VK-6200, it should be here by Friday, then Ultra 12 may be next. Thanks again.
Mike

[Isaac]

Finally!!! I have this powering my B&W's. Big improvement.

[Rod#S]

Some pics of my re-arranged room, scaled back from 7.1 to 5.1 with the 802 Diamonds