DTS titles needed!

[Markj]

I am adding DTS to my Casablanca today. Not because I need it, but just trying to help out the economy. So, what DTS DVDs will show the difference from DD. I have listen to DTS systems before but didn’t hear much of a difference if any, so with having it in my system I want check out what DTS can do.

[Huskerduck]

T2 Ultimate and Saving Private Ryan are a must ( Die Hard Trilogy another Huge favorite of mine!), there are many, many others here DTS out of 60 DVDs , 1/2 of them are DTS or I wouldnt own them




Mark


Ducks Meager Theater

[John Holmes]

One of my favorite DTS title is Galaxy Quest. I have never heard the DD version but, I know this is an excellent soundtrack. I like the movie too! I also think that the Bone Collector is one of the best mixes ever done for a soundtrack. The level of attention on this track is very detailed.




"I came here, to chew bubble gum and kickass. And I'm all out of bubble gum!!!" My DVD's

[KennyG]

If you really want to hear the difference, get some of the older full bit rate DTS transfers, the newer ones aren't much different than DD
A few of these would be: Dragonheart, 12 monkeys, the Jackel, Antz and Apollo 13.
However the best DTS soundtrack is without a doubt "the Haunting", alot of people didn't like this movie, but visually it's awesome, and the ST will shake the foundation of your house...be warned it has some frequencies that drop to below hearing, and have caused alot of sub bottoming and vent noise.

[Markj]

Thanks for the responses. I have T2 and gave that a spin last night. Great suggestions. SPR is one I don’t have so that will go on my list.

The older DTS DVDs seems like the ones I should see if I can still get. How do I know if the DTS track is the full bit rate? I will try the Ken Crane’s wed site I think they have a search for DTS.

Thanks again and if there are any other titles you think of post them.

[Buzz Goddard]

If you really want to hear DTS at its best, look into their music discs, which are significantly better then a standard CD and sometimes rival SACD and DVD-A (plus you can enjoy full bass management and time alignement). I'm not so enamored with the older quad releases, but the newer 5.1 mixes can be quite stunning.




Buzz Goddard
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[Buzz Goddard]

If you really want to hear DTS at its best, look into their music discs, which are significantly better then a standard CD and sometimes rival SACD and DVD-A (plus you can enjoy full bass management and time alignment). I'm not so enamored with the older quad releases, but the newer 5.1 mixes can be quite stunning.




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[Markj]

Thanks Buzz that a great idea. The store that I got my upgrade gave me a DTS CD. I like it and will definitely get some more.

Just got back from the Ken Cranes web site. Dragonheart and Apollo 13 are out of stock. Are these titles out of print?

Looking through the DTS titles I notice I have several discs because they contain both DD and DTS and I assume that these DTS sound tracks are the lower bit rates, correct?

I already have Jurassic Park and Lost world. Is it worth getting the DTS versions?

Here is my wish list.

12 Monkeys
Bone Collector
Haunting
Saving Private Ryan

My wife is going to kill me because she hates scarry movies.

Thank,
Mark

[Lex]

Well, get in line for 5th Element DTS.

If you want to help the Economy, I hear buying CAT Cables is a great way to start, lol.

Lex

[KennyG]

Delete!

[Lex]

Kenny, perhaps you have lost your sense of humor. that was a joke, pure and simple!!!

I cannot separate the fact that I own CAT, and that I own part of HTGuide. Anyone that doesn't accept that, well, what can I say?

Mark, I think took that as the joke it was intended, and I am sorry that you apparently didn't.

Doug

[Markj]

Yes, I took it as a joke.

If I had a need for new cables I would look at Cat!

Btw my wife looked at the list and said NO! So I am modifying it to be:
SPR
12 Monkeys.
DragonHeart.

I live close to Ken Crane (DVD Planet) so tonight I will stop by and see what they got.

[Lex]

Thanks Mark for keeping your sense of humor! That 12 Monkey's movie is a strange animal. I watched it a few times, but really haven't had the urge to view it in a long time. You might want to rent it first.

Well, my joking capability must be getting worse, because Kenny took it pretty hard. He's no longer with us as a moderator over this or some cumulative build up.

In fact, I am going to post a message about something, right now in the forum.

Lex

[Markj]

Sorry to hear about Kenny leaving but I wish him the best.

Back to the movies, 12 Monkeys is the only DTS title I could find so I got it. If I don’t like it I can always sell it. The DTS intro is a lot of fun but I did not watch the movie.

Thanks for the suggestions. Hopefully I will find some more DTS only titles.

[pf]

Mark, welcome back. Glad you enjoy your CB2. I agree the older DTS DVD's (w/ higher bit rates) such as SPR & Haunting are awesome but believe it or not I only own the DD version of both & never bother to get the DTS ones. That may be 'cause my Onkyo/Millennium combo doesn't cut it as well as the CB (I've been using mine exclusively as a stereo preamp for it's excellent analog direct).

Doug, haven't heard from you for a while & hope things are still working out for you. Sorry to hear about Kenny's resignation but I don't think what you've been doing with Cats on this forum are overbearing at all. In fact like other Cats fans I find it handy to find first hand info & give feedback on this forum. As for non-Cat fans, just ignore it like everything else.

Hopefully in a week or two I will have better idea about the cables but I can give you some hint - XLR.

Cheers.

PF

[pf]

Mark, welcome back. Glad you enjoy your CB2. I agree the older DTS DVD's (w/ higher bit rates) such as SPR & Haunting are awesome but believe it or not I only own the DD version of both & never bother to get the DTS ones. That may be 'cause my Onkyo/Millennium combo doesn't cut it as well as the CB (I've been using mine exclusively as a stereo preamp for it's excellent analog direct).

Doug, haven't heard from you for a while & hope things are still working out for you. Sorry to hear about Kenny's resignation but I don't think what you've been doing with Cats on this forum are overbearing at all. In fact like other Cats fans I find it handy to find first hand info & give feedback on this forum. As for non-Cat fans, just ignore it like everything else.

Hopefully in a week or two I will have better idea about the cables but I can give you some hint - XLR.

Cheers.

PF

[John Kotches]

SPR and the Haunting are 768kb/s DTS, which is "half bit rate".

The first round of titles with DTS were full bit rate (Eagles: Hell Freezes Over, Joni Mitchell) and some others that escape me off the top of my head (probably Dragonheart).

Regards,




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Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity
My Home Theater
NEC LT-150 specific page.

[pf]

Thanks for the correction John. I've given up on my only player with the bit rate meter I believe the Toshiba but even then I didn't bother to access for it esp since I didn't have these title to start out.

PF

[Huskerduck]

Some others that are in my collection that test your system are U-571, Pitch Black, Cape Fear 1991, 7even, and Fight Club and I would say if you want a test to tell who wins the 5.1 battle between DTS and DD then buy the Saving PR in both and then sell your DD version about 20 minutes later, 1/2 bit rate or not




Mark


Ducks Meager Theater

[John Kotches]

PF,

Keep in mind the bit rate meter is displaying data rate for all audio and video streams simultaneously. For the typical disc, that's about 1-2mb/sec just for the various audio tracks.

The Superbit versions of discs (5th Element, Crouching Tiger etc) will still utilize 768kb/s encoding as well, not 1.5mb/s. The video stream has less compression so that (in theory) the picture should be improved.

My understanding is that they are pushing the limits for bit rate, with averages around 8 mb/s.

Regards,




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Editor, PC/Home Theater
Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity
My Home Theater
NEC LT-150 specific page.

[Markj]

This is great stuff and what I was looking for. I am trying to get a copy of SPR and Dragonheart but so far have not found them locally. I will look for some of the other titles mentioned here also. Interesting info about the super bit discs as I just assumed that the DTS would be the full bit rate.

[John Kotches]

Mark,

You know what they say about assumptions :

With DD @ 448kb/sec, and DTS@1.5mb/sec that would impact the last little bit of video resolution.

I have superbit discs on order, and they should arrive on my door the day they're "released" if DVD Planet does their usual treatment.

Regards,




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Editor, PC/Home Theater
Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity
My Home Theater
NEC LT-150 specific page.

[pf]

The impression from DVDTalk on the superbit DVD at least for '5th Element' is that the picture is better but sound wise still isn't quite up to the DTS version.

PF

[Markj]

Yea, John I know. You would think I would learn.:O I would be interested of your opinion of the superbit discs when you have a chance to post them.

So will DTS produce full bit rate discs again or is that history?

PF thedigitalbits review supperbit 5th Element also. In their report they said that the picture was a little better but the DTS sound track was much better. I am on the fence whether to buy this new release of the movie, since I already have it. I need to think about it some more.

OK how about the Jurassic Park movies. They have the DTS only version. Maybe when III is released I will pick up the DTS box set.

[John Kotches]

Mark,

As long as you realize I am not the best video expert on the planet, and temper your expectations accordingly that's fine

While these reviews are nice, they missed out completely on some details that are crucial.

Take for example, the seamless layer break. This is (technically) a violation of the DVD standard. Some players MIGHT puke on it. We'll see soon on this one.

Then there's the whole bandwidth issue.

Stacey will be working on a review / primer on Superbit sometime in the next week or so. It should make for interesting reading.

Regards,




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Editor, PC/Home Theater
Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity
My Home Theater
NEC LT-150 specific page.

[Markj]

John I understand and my expectation is that of getting info from a follow HTGuide member. Heck, I like to read anything HT by anyone that posts.

[Lex]

You guys been busy here in this thread.

I am here Po-ming, been a bit busy lately, that's all. Say, you need cables?

Got something to introduce tonight, well, a brief introduction anyway. Not really ready to get real detailed yet on pricing and such.

Lex